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From MetO news release
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporat...r20060119.html

"The very mild conditions the UK has been experiencing look set to change
over the next few days.

The latest Met Office forecasts indicate that colder weather is expected to
reach parts of the country over the weekend period, with lower temperatures
and overnight frosts becoming more widespread during the course of next
week.

Contrary to media headlines the UK is not expected to experience the extreme
winter conditions currently affecting eastern Europe.

Ian Cameron, Head of the Met Office Operations Centre, said: "People will
feel the difference but it certainly will not be record-breaking.
Historically this period is often the coldest of the year and it will not be
unusual weather for late January/early February".

People are advised to keep in touch with local forecasts and be prepared for
a drop in temperature."





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"Jon O'Rourke" wrote in
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Contrary to media headlines the UK is not expected to experience the
extreme winter conditions currently affecting eastern Europe.


That's a dangerous statement given the latest charts (albeit how far off
the colder weather looks to be). Does he mean we won't experience the an
extreme eastern European-type temperature or just an extreme UK-type
temperature?

Winter here we come!!

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Jon O'Rourke wrote:
From MetO news release
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporat...r20060119.html

"The very mild conditions the UK has been experiencing look set to
change over the next few days.

The latest Met Office forecasts indicate that colder weather is
expected to reach parts of the country over the weekend period, with
lower temperatures and overnight frosts becoming more widespread
during the course of next week.


does that include the west coast?
pretty please


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Winter here we come!!

I've just had a look at all the usual forecast charts and I cannot see any
evidence of even a short cold snap, let alone anything really cold. Am I
missing something here?

As for the charts 180, not worth going there.
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"Nick G" wrote in message
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Winter here we come!!


I've just had a look at all the usual forecast charts and I cannot see any
evidence of even a short cold snap, let alone anything really cold. Am I
missing something here?

As for the charts 180, not worth going there.
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Uhm strange comment given this GFS T+168 chart at 12z.

Regards

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"Richard Dixon" wrote in message
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"Jon O'Rourke" wrote in
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Contrary to media headlines the UK is not expected to experience the
extreme winter conditions currently affecting eastern Europe.



Those 'media headlines' would explain why I heard somebody at work today
say that it was going to be -40C here next week.

*sigh*

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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:01:02 -0000, "Buzz" wrote:


"Nick G" wrote in message
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Winter here we come!!


I've just had a look at all the usual forecast charts and I cannot see any
evidence of even a short cold snap, let alone anything really cold. Am I
missing something here?

As for the charts 180, not worth going there.


Uhm strange comment given this GFS T+168 chart at 12z.

Based on the current GFS operational runs, what Will suggested as a
30% possibility is still a 30% possiblilty (or more) as far as I can
tell. What's interesting is that this possibility (for mid week next
week onwards) has been suggested consistently by GFS over the last few
days.

What started as T+240 chance is now closer than T+180 and the change
from a Westerly to an Easterly airmass origin is currently suggested
as starting by or before T+144 (albeit with the really cold air still
some distance to our East at that point).

The Met office statement that "the UK is not expected to experience
the extreme Winter conditions currently affecting eastern Europe" is
potentially misleading as even our most severe Winters are not *that*
severe!

Dave
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Dave Ludlow wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:01:02 -0000, "Buzz" wrote:


"Nick G" wrote in message
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Winter here we come!!

I've just had a look at all the usual forecast charts and I cannot see any
evidence of even a short cold snap, let alone anything really cold. Am I
missing something here?

As for the charts 180, not worth going there.


Uhm strange comment given this GFS T+168 chart at 12z.

Based on the current GFS operational runs, what Will suggested as a
30% possibility is still a 30% possiblilty (or more) as far as I can
tell. What's interesting is that this possibility (for mid week next
week onwards) has been suggested consistently by GFS over the last few
days.

What started as T+240 chance is now closer than T+180 and the change
from a Westerly to an Easterly airmass origin is currently suggested
as starting by or before T+144 (albeit with the really cold air still
some distance to our East at that point).

The Met office statement that "the UK is not expected to experience
the extreme Winter conditions currently affecting eastern Europe" is
potentially misleading as even our most severe Winters are not *that*
severe!

Dave


Perhaps UKMO are going for the reverse psychology option now and
severely underplaying events instead of issuing silly warnings every
five minutes!

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In article ,
Nick G writes:
Winter here we come!!


I've just had a look at all the usual forecast charts and I cannot see any
evidence of even a short cold snap, let alone anything really cold. Am I
missing something here?


Possibly. The GFS 12Z 850hPa ensemble for London has most of its members
now indicating at least a short very cold spell.
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:49:44 +0000 (UTC), "Nick G"
wrote:



I've just had a look at all the usual forecast charts and I cannot see any
evidence of even a short cold snap, let alone anything really cold. Am I
missing something here?


And David Braine for Spotlight (SW region) was pretty emphatic that
there was nothing severe and,quote,that was looking 5 days ahead.
He also mentioned that there was much hype in the papers.

It was mentioned also on Radio Solent this morning and the poor
'weather girl' was positively squirming around trying to answer
specific questions put by the show presenter at about 0730. There were
quite a few comments starting with 'I don't think it is heading our
way' and then a classic ' really, we will only really get,I think, the
tail end of it'

Robin


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