Certainly my sentiments Will. All this electronic instrumentation I
have in readiness to witness a real winter and nothing, absolutly
nothing! We've even missed the rain and gales of the last week, which
does'nt bother me particularily, but I am realy getting dissolusioned
with the weather nowadays. I've only recorded 9.4mm of rain this
January, so we maybe heading for one of our driest January's for many
a year, hard to beleive for many I guess. Of course media attention
will be focused on the 'Frost' that may bring the SE to a standstill
with headlines such as 'Deep Freeze' comes in as forecast. I can only
think the media are still in nappies and think a blizzard is something
you have a day out at in Orlando. On the plus, heating bills are kept
down and I hardly have to scrape ice off the car in the mornings. I am
expecting the 21°c to be recorded in the SE sometime at the end of
March this year after that who knows anything could happen, but one
thing is certain it will be blamed on global warming, which was
happening anyway and there's nothing we can do about it!

Another tablet :-)

Keith (Southend)

***********************
Weather Home & Abroad
http://www.southendweather.net

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:38:47 -0000, "Will Hand"
wrote:



Perhaps the weather has got so boring in SE England this winter that the BBC are
after *anything* of interest :-)

Will.

In message , "Keith
(Southend)" writes
Certainly my sentiments Will. All this electronic instrumentation I
have in readiness to witness a real winter and nothing, absolutly
nothing! We've even missed the rain and gales of the last week, which
does'nt bother me particularily, but I am realy getting dissolusioned
with the weather nowadays. I've only recorded 9.4mm of rain this
January, so we maybe heading for one of our driest January's for many
a year, hard to beleive for many I guess. Of course media attention
will be focused on the 'Frost' that may bring the SE to a standstill
with headlines such as 'Deep Freeze' comes in as forecast. I can only
think the media are still in nappies and think a blizzard is something
you have a day out at in Orlando. On the plus, heating bills are kept
down and I hardly have to scrape ice off the car in the mornings. I am
expecting the 21°c to be recorded in the SE sometime at the end of
March this year after that who knows anything could happen, but one
thing is certain it will be blamed on global warming, which was
happening anyway and there's nothing we can do about it!

Another tablet :-)

Keith (Southend)

The weather girl on Sky News this afternoon was continually emphasising
how 'very, very cold' it will be tonight. This with the temperature
forecast to remain above zero! I wonder how she would cope with a 'real'
cold spell :-)

Norman.
(delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail)
--
Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy
Chalfont St Giles 85m a.s.l.
England

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:31:55 GMT, Norman Lynagh
wrote:

The weather girl on Sky News this afternoon was continually emphasising
how 'very, very cold' it will be tonight. This with the temperature
forecast to remain above zero! I wonder how she would cope with a 'real'
cold spell

I think for the sake of our collective blood pressure that we're going
to have to accept that the norm as we new it no longer exists and that
a new generation exists for which our norm has little meaning. This is
not just in matters weather but all sorts of other matters as well.

This, of course, has always happened but perhaps not with such
rapidity as hitherto.

Feeling my age...

--
Alan White
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow.
Overlooking Loch Goil and Loch Long in Argyll, Scotland.
Web cam at http://www.ufcnet.net/~alanlesley1/kabcam.htm

"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
...
Certainly my sentiments Will. All this electronic instrumentation I
have in readiness to witness a real winter and nothing, absolutly
nothing! We've even missed the rain and gales of the last week, which
does'nt bother me particularily, but I am realy getting dissolusioned
with the weather nowadays. I've only recorded 9.4mm of rain this
January, so we maybe heading for one of our driest January's for many
a year, hard to beleive for many I guess. Of course media attention
will be focused on the 'Frost' that may bring the SE to a standstill
with headlines such as 'Deep Freeze' comes in as forecast. I can only
think the media are still in nappies and think a blizzard is something
you have a day out at in Orlando. On the plus, heating bills are kept
down and I hardly have to scrape ice off the car in the mornings. I am
expecting the 21°c to be recorded in the SE sometime at the end of
March this year

A modest target Keith, went past that one in mid March 1990 with 21°C

All the best
--
George in Epping, West Essex (107m asl)
www.eppingweather.co.uk
www.winter1947.co.uk

I really sympathise Keith, it must be dreadful for weather enthusiasts like
yourself ATM down there.
It must surely improve ?

It has been pretty tame here too. OK 3 days snow lying and 6 days snow falling
so far this winter and 85 mm rain so far this month, but for my part of the
world that is small beer. What has got me this winter is the incessant mildness,
day after day after day. Maxes have been running at 9-11 recently, even at my
altitude. Even today at 8.1 it was above normal. Also the lack of frost is
amazing. The other thing is that people seem to be getting used to it. Local
radio talked about the possibility of a frost as if it was an interesting event,
it was only forecast to go down to 0 deg C for goodness sake - in January ! Ah
well, the coldest time of the year is still to come for us when the sea
temperatures fall in February and then there are the April snow showers, always
good fun. As you say, though, heating bills are down, but also no need to light
a real fire either :-(

Every silver lining has a cloud I suppose :-)

Inside temperature still 17.4 deg C with the heating off !

Will.
--

"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
...
Certainly my sentiments Will. All this electronic instrumentation I
have in readiness to witness a real winter and nothing, absolutly
nothing! We've even missed the rain and gales of the last week, which
does'nt bother me particularily, but I am realy getting dissolusioned
with the weather nowadays. I've only recorded 9.4mm of rain this
January, so we maybe heading for one of our driest January's for many
a year, hard to beleive for many I guess. Of course media attention
will be focused on the 'Frost' that may bring the SE to a standstill
with headlines such as 'Deep Freeze' comes in as forecast. I can only
think the media are still in nappies and think a blizzard is something
you have a day out at in Orlando. On the plus, heating bills are kept
down and I hardly have to scrape ice off the car in the mornings. I am
expecting the 21°c to be recorded in the SE sometime at the end of
March this year after that who knows anything could happen, but one
thing is certain it will be blamed on global warming, which was
happening anyway and there's nothing we can do about it!

Another tablet :-)

Keith (Southend)

***********************
Weather Home & Abroad
http://www.southendweather.net

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:38:47 -0000, "Will Hand"
wrote:



Perhaps the weather has got so boring in SE England this winter that the BBC
are
after *anything* of interest :-)

Will.

"Norman Lynagh" wrote in message
...
In message , "Keith
(Southend)" writes
Certainly my sentiments Will. All this electronic instrumentation I
have in readiness to witness a real winter and nothing, absolutly
nothing! We've even missed the rain and gales of the last week, which
does'nt bother me particularily, but I am realy getting dissolusioned
with the weather nowadays. I've only recorded 9.4mm of rain this
January, so we maybe heading for one of our driest January's for many
a year, hard to beleive for many I guess. Of course media attention
will be focused on the 'Frost' that may bring the SE to a standstill
with headlines such as 'Deep Freeze' comes in as forecast. I can only
think the media are still in nappies and think a blizzard is something
you have a day out at in Orlando. On the plus, heating bills are kept
down and I hardly have to scrape ice off the car in the mornings. I am
expecting the 21°c to be recorded in the SE sometime at the end of
March this year after that who knows anything could happen, but one
thing is certain it will be blamed on global warming, which was
happening anyway and there's nothing we can do about it!

Another tablet :-)

Keith (Southend)

The weather girl on Sky News this afternoon was continually emphasising
how 'very, very cold' it will be tonight. This with the temperature
forecast to remain above zero! I wonder how she would cope with a 'real'
cold spell :-)


It makes you want to weep - seriously, how pathetic is that.

Will.
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:50:42 +0000, Alan White wrote:

I think for the sake of our collective blood pressure that we're
going to have to accept that the norm as we new it no longer exists
and that a new generation exists for which our norm has little
meaning. This is not just in matters weather but all sorts of other
matters as well.

Your probably right, the youngsters of today brought up with central
heating, cars and mild winters really haven't a clue about cold or
snow. I can remember sucking pennies (big old ones) and sticking them
on the ice on the inside of my bedroom window to make a peep hole. I
can also remember walking to Junior School (about 3/4 mile) through
12" of snow and I think I walked to college (3miles+ as I could have
free bus pass) at least once.

I'm amazed at how few clothes some people go out in, a top that
doesn't met the bottoms and a skimpy cardigan. They do it up here as
well, though to be honest they also tend have a reasonable coat as
well.

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.com...

I'm amazed at how few clothes some people go out in, a top that
doesn't met the bottoms and a skimpy cardigan. They do it up here as
well, though to be honest they also tend have a reasonable coat as
well.

I still see the odd bloke walking around wearing shorts.
I guess it must be a fashion thing, it certainly can't be for comfort!

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co....rPictures.html

"Col" wrote in message
...

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.com...

I'm amazed at how few clothes some people go out in, a top that
doesn't met the bottoms and a skimpy cardigan. They do it up here as
well, though to be honest they also tend have a reasonable coat as
well.

I still see the odd bloke walking around wearing shorts.
I guess it must be a fashion thing, it certainly can't be for comfort!



I usually start to put my shorts on when the outside temperature hits 18 deg C
(about June up here on Dartmoor )

Will.
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"Will Hand" wrote in message
...

"Col" wrote in message
...


I still see the odd bloke walking around wearing shorts.
I guess it must be a fashion thing, it certainly can't be for comfort!



I usually start to put my shorts on when the outside temperature hits 18 deg C
(about June up here on Dartmoor )


As long as it's sunny with light winds, 15C is quite comfortable.

Talking of clothes, as I needed a new winter coat I was faced with the
choice of a very bulky garment or a much thinner, fleece lined coat
which incidentally was half the price. I chose the thinner one. And it's
quite warm enough, even a little too warm with temps in the 8-10C range.
For the few 'bitterly cold' days with windchill around 0C the addition
of a scarf should suffice.

The point is, 20 years ago I probably wouldn't have considered this a
'proper' winter coat at all.

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co....rPictures.html