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Here is a summary of the latest NWP output for noon on Tuesday. Issued
0609z, 14/01/05. The models persist in showing unsettled weather for the UK, with the worst of the winds for northern areas. Longer term the 00z GFS is much less keen (than yesterday) to bring a northerly plunge across the UK, but as ever more runs are needed. ECMWF: http://64.246.48.81/pics/Recm1201.gif A lagre high covers Biscay, leading to strong westerlies across the UK. The winds become WNW'lies at T+144 as the high declines slightly, followed by more of the same at T+168. MetO: http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1201.html A large high lies to the NE of the Azores, with lows to the west and east of Iceland. This leads to strong westerlies and WNW'lies over the UK, followed by further WNW'lies at T+144 as a shallow low moves ENE'wards around the Azores High. GFS: http://64.246.48.81/pics/Rtavn1201.gif Strong to gale force westerlies cover the UK, with high pressure over Iberia and complex low pressure west of Norway. 850hPa temperatures vary from -5C over northern Scotland to +6C over Cornwall. The winds become WNW'lies at T+144 as a weak ridge builds to the west, followed by westerlies and WNW'lies as a trough crosses the UK on day 7. Day 8 sees a ridge over Ireland and the Irish Sea, with northerlies or NW'lies elsewhere. High pressure builds over France on day 9 to bring southerlies for most areas, with easterlies for many on day 10 as high pressure builds over Scotland. GEM: http://www.meteocentre.com/models/glb00_120.html The Canadian run also shows strong to gale force westerlies, followed by WNW'lies at T+144 due to a weak ridge building to the west. By T+168 a secondary low lies to the north of Scotland, bringing strong westerlies for most. GME/DWD: http://www.wetter.com/home/img/sat/g...140000_120.gif Low pressure lies to the west of Norway, bringing westerlies across the UK in conjunction with a high over Biscay. JMA: http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rjma1201.html Unavailable today. NOGAPS: http://129.13.102.67/wz/pics/ngp10.prp.120.europeg.gif A deep low is located to the SE of Iceland, leading to strong westerlies for all. GM CPTEC: http://www.cptec.inpe.br/prevnum/Global126_sx6_Gl.shtml Unavailable today. KMA: http://www.kma.go.kr/kma03/gif/g21nh_smsr_120.gif The UK is sandwiched between a low to the north and a high to the south, with strong westerlies as a result. |
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:10:45 -0000, "Darren Prescott"
wrote: Here is a summary of the latest NWP output for noon on Tuesday. Issued 0609z, 14/01/05. The models persist in showing unsettled weather for the UK, with the worst of the winds for northern areas. Longer term the 00z GFS is much less keen (than yesterday) to bring a northerly plunge across the UK, Darren, The party's on again regarding a northerly plunge according to the 06z runs - but such a long way ahead who can tell. Why is it that so many 06z runs are more keen to bring a northerly plunge across the UK than the later 12z and 18z runs? It seems strange that the models(especially GFS) have been persistently trying to bring in this change of type in "ten to fifteen days time" for nearly two weeks now. The Azores High seemingly just won't quit....Now where's that giant pin? |
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![]() "Darren Prescott" wrote in message ... Here is a summary of the latest NWP output for noon on Tuesday. Issued 0609z, 14/01/05. GFS: http://64.246.48.81/pics/Rtavn1201.gif Hi Darren, Of most interest I think is the forecast 162KT+ jet - http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn12015.gif Let's hope that none of the waves beneath is move into developmental regions. Joe |
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In message , Joe Hunt
writes "Darren Prescott" wrote in message ... Here is a summary of the latest NWP output for noon on Tuesday. Issued 0609z, 14/01/05. GFS: http://64.246.48.81/pics/Rtavn1201.gif Hi Darren, Of most interest I think is the forecast 162KT+ jet - http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn12015.gif Let's hope that none of the waves beneath is move into developmental regions. May I admit that what little I recall of my 36-hr course in German in 1993 is inadequate for the purpose of translating wetterzentrale. How do other people translate these menus and charts? Is there a glossary or guide somewhere? -- Peter Thomas |
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![]() "Peter Thomas" wrote in message ... May I admit that what little I recall of my 36-hr course in German in 1993 is inadequate for the purpose of translating wetterzentrale. How do other people translate these menus and charts? Is there a glossary or guide somewhere? You should find most of what you want here ... http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.w...dels/sites.htm if not, no doubt we can help out! Martin. -- FAQ & Glossary for uk.sci.weather at:- http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/uswfaqfr.htm |
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![]() "Martin Rowley" wrote in message ... "Peter Thomas" wrote in message ... May I admit that what little I recall of my 36-hr course in German in 1993 is inadequate for the purpose of translating wetterzentrale. How do other people translate these menus and charts? Is there a glossary or guide somewhere? You should find most of what you want here ... http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.w...dels/sites.htm .... after posting that, I realised that streamline charts weren't there! I have hurriedly put up an example - to go direct use:- http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.w.../define_WW.htm Martin. -- FAQ & Glossary for uk.sci.weather at:- http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/uswfaqfr.htm |
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Peter Thomas wrote:
May I admit that what little I recall of my 36-hr course in German in 1993 is inadequate for the purpose of translating wetterzentrale. How do other people translate these menus and charts? Is there a glossary or guide somewhere? I use Google to translate the pages for me. If you start at the link below, all the linked pages will also be translated. Well, they are for me. Please watch for the line wrap. http://translate.google.com/translat...8%26safe%3Doff -- Howard Neil |
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:58:04 GMT, Martin Rowley wrote in
... after posting that, I realised that streamline charts weren't there! I have hurriedly put up an example - to go direct use:- http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.w.../define_WW.htm Martin - I had a quick look at that page down to the ECMWF section. You might want to modify that part now in the light of both runs being available online and at a shorter time scale than used to be the case. For example the last night's 00z run is available. IIIRC the 12z run will be there later today. -- Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 14/01/2005 16:06:18 UTC |
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![]() "Mike Tullett" wrote in message ... Martin - I had a quick look at that page down to the ECMWF section. You might want to modify that part now in the light of both runs being available online and at a shorter time scale than used to be the case. For example the last night's 00z run is available. IIIRC the 12z run will be there later today. .... thanks for that: that's one I missed when I changed the rest of the site. I'll just remove any reference to timing at that location (it is discussed elsewhere within those pages), and also have a look at the rest of the 'beast' to see if any changes are needed .... busy, busy ;-) Martin. -- FAQ & Glossary for uk.sci.weather at:- http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/uswfaqfr.htm |
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In message , Martin Rowley
writes "Mike Tullett" wrote in message ... Martin - I had a quick look at that page down to the ECMWF section. You might want to modify that part now in the light of both runs being available online and at a shorter time scale than used to be the case. For example the last night's 00z run is available. IIIRC the 12z run will be there later today. ... thanks for that: that's one I missed when I changed the rest of the site. I'll just remove any reference to timing at that location (it is discussed elsewhere within those pages), and also have a look at the rest of the 'beast' to see if any changes are needed .... busy, busy ;-) Martin. Thank you all very much all. Looks most helpful. Superb, in fact. The translation from Howard's url was still coming out in German, sop I need to have another look at it. -- Peter Thomas |
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