Can anyone explain why in the S of France on Thurs 11th (max temp 21C and
humidity 50%) felt pleasant to me (I think most Brits would have found it
cool) whilst arriving at Nottingham the next day (max 21C humidity 45%) it
felt stinking hot to me. I had to have all windows open in the car to cool
down, somthing I didn't need to do the week in France) Both had winds force
3 to 4.

I find it mysterious!

Trevor
East Yorkshire

"Trevor" wrote in message
...
Can anyone explain why in the S of France on Thurs 11th (max temp 21C and
humidity 50%) felt pleasant to me (I think most Brits would have found it
cool) whilst arriving at Nottingham the next day (max 21C humidity 45%) it
felt stinking hot to me. I had to have all windows open in the car to cool
down, somthing I didn't need to do the week in France) Both had winds
force 3 to 4.

I find it mysterious!

Trevor,

I take it you landed at East Midlands airport which is in Derbyshire, closer
to Leicestershire than Nottinghamshire !? But let's call it Nottingham East
Midlands. Sorry, a little pet hate of mine.

I am down there in three weeks time so I will try and understand where you
are coming from. One theory is you are arriving home wondering why on earth
you live here and not France, having to drive home when you don't
particularly want to and work starts on Monday. These are all stress related
and hence raise your body temperature. Good idea ?!

Joe

No, it felt sunny but fresh in Carcassonne, yet hot and sticky in EMA!

I arrived home midday Friday and had to start work 3 am Saturday - the joys
of being a weather forecaster - I don't recommend it to anyone if you want a
life!

Trevor wrote:
Can anyone explain why in the S of France on Thurs 11th (max temp 21C and
humidity 50%) felt pleasant to me (I think most Brits would have found it
cool) whilst arriving at Nottingham the next day (max 21C humidity 45%) it
felt stinking hot to me. I had to have all windows open in the car to cool
down, somthing I didn't need to do the week in France) Both had winds force
3 to 4.

I find it mysterious!



The mystery may be based on an assumption that it should be otherwise.

I know, for example, that when it is a sunny 15C here, with light winds etc.,
that it will feel much warmer than the same temperature in Bedfordshire.
21C in Italy, would feel much less warm than 21C here. It was 22C here the
other day and it was hot ... people were carrying water if walking into town.
30C in Italy is nice and warm, while anything over 25 in England has always felt
unbearably hot to me.

As for hot and sticky, I have mentioned before that when it feels "very humid",
the humidity is often not particularly high at the time. 45% would be one of my
lowest humidity figures here ... at a quick glance, one 49 and one 46 are the
only 40-somethings in the last 120 days (which happen to be on my desk).

When relating such tales to friends in England, they would say 'ah but it is a
different kind of heat there [Italy]', and when they expressed surprise that I
was moving to Scotland, I of course said 'but it is a warmer kind of cold there'.

This does not explain why it feels different, only that my experiences and my
expectations are the same, while yours are not.

(Having read that back to 'spell check' it, I cannot help but wonder if
latitude/angle of the sun is a factor.)

Gianna

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from "Joe Hunt" contains these words:

I take it you landed at East Midlands airport which is in Derbyshire,
closer
to Leicestershire than Nottinghamshire !?

Actually it is *in* Leicestershire but its but has a Derbyshire post
code and Derby is the nearest city. There is supposedly now a paid-for
'Welcome to Leicestershire' advertising sign visible on arrival, but I
haven't been there for a while.

Jez

"Gianna" wrote in message
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Trevor wrote:
Can anyone explain why in the S of France on Thurs 11th (max temp 21C and
humidity 50%) felt pleasant to me (I think most Brits would have found it
cool) whilst arriving at Nottingham the next day (max 21C humidity 45%)
it felt stinking hot to me. I had to have all windows open in the car to
cool down, somthing I didn't need to do the week in France) Both had
winds force 3 to 4.

I find it mysterious!



The mystery may be based on an assumption that it should be otherwise.

I know, for example, that when it is a sunny 15C here, with light winds
etc., that it will feel much warmer than the same temperature in
Bedfordshire.
21C in Italy, would feel much less warm than 21C here. It was 22C here
the other day and it was hot ... people were carrying water if walking
into town.
30C in Italy is nice and warm, while anything over 25 in England has
always felt unbearably hot to me.

As for hot and sticky, I have mentioned before that when it feels "very
humid", the humidity is often not particularly high at the time. 45%
would be one of my lowest humidity figures here ... at a quick glance, one
49 and one 46 are the only 40-somethings in the last 120 days (which
happen to be on my desk).

When relating such tales to friends in England, they would say 'ah but it
is a different kind of heat there [Italy]', and when they expressed
surprise that I was moving to Scotland, I of course said 'but it is a
warmer kind of cold there'.

This does not explain why it feels different, only that my experiences and
my expectations are the same, while yours are not.

(Having read that back to 'spell check' it, I cannot help but wonder if
latitude/angle of the sun is a factor.)

Gianna

But sun angle should make S France feel warmer.

"Gianna" wrote in message
...
Trevor wrote:
Can anyone explain why in the S of France on Thurs 11th (max temp 21C and
humidity 50%) felt pleasant to me (I think most Brits would have found it
cool) whilst arriving at Nottingham the next day (max 21C humidity 45%)
it felt stinking hot to me. I had to have all windows open in the car to
cool down, somthing I didn't need to do the week in France) Both had
winds force 3 to 4.

I find it mysterious!



The mystery may be based on an assumption that it should be otherwise.

I know, for example, that when it is a sunny 15C here, with light winds
etc., that it will feel much warmer than the same temperature in
Bedfordshire.
21C in Italy, would feel much less warm than 21C here. It was 22C here
the other day and it was hot ... people were carrying water if walking
into town.
30C in Italy is nice and warm, while anything over 25 in England has
always felt unbearably hot to me.

As for hot and sticky, I have mentioned before that when it feels "very
humid", the humidity is often not particularly high at the time. 45%
would be one of my lowest humidity figures here ... at a quick glance, one
49 and one 46 are the only 40-somethings in the last 120 days (which
happen to be on my desk).

When relating such tales to friends in England, they would say 'ah but it
is a different kind of heat there [Italy]', and when they expressed
surprise that I was moving to Scotland, I of course said 'but it is a
warmer kind of cold there'.

This does not explain why it feels different, only that my experiences and
my expectations are the same, while yours are not.

(Having read that back to 'spell check' it, I cannot help but wonder if
latitude/angle of the sun is a factor.)



Where IS here Gianni?

"Jeremy Rogers" wrote in message
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The message
from "Joe Hunt" contains these words:

I take it you landed at East Midlands airport which is in Derbyshire,
closer
to Leicestershire than Nottinghamshire !?

Actually it is *in* Leicestershire but its but has a Derbyshire post
code and Derby is the nearest city. There is supposedly now a paid-for
'Welcome to Leicestershire' advertising sign visible on arrival, but I
haven't been there for a while.

Jez

Jez,

I had always assumed it was in Derbyshire given its postal code. I have just
checked my OS map and indeed the River Trent to the NW of the airfield marks
the county boundary between Leicestershire and Derbyshire.

I live in Wymeswold, under the flight path of runway 27, but haven't
actually visited the airport for some time. I tend to use London based
airports as flights are considerably cheaper.

Joe

Trevor wrote:
"Gianna" wrote in message
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Trevor wrote:
Can anyone explain why in the S of France on Thurs 11th (max temp 21C and
humidity 50%) felt pleasant to me (I think most Brits would have found it
cool) whilst arriving at Nottingham the next day (max 21C humidity 45%)
it felt stinking hot to me. I had to have all windows open in the car to
cool down, somthing I didn't need to do the week in France) Both had
winds force 3 to 4.

I find it mysterious!


The mystery may be based on an assumption that it should be otherwise.

I know, for example, that when it is a sunny 15C here, with light winds
etc., that it will feel much warmer than the same temperature in
Bedfordshire.
21C in Italy, would feel much less warm than 21C here. It was 22C here
the other day and it was hot ... people were carrying water if walking
into town.
30C in Italy is nice and warm, while anything over 25 in England has
always felt unbearably hot to me.

As for hot and sticky, I have mentioned before that when it feels "very
humid", the humidity is often not particularly high at the time. 45%
would be one of my lowest humidity figures here ... at a quick glance, one
49 and one 46 are the only 40-somethings in the last 120 days (which
happen to be on my desk).

When relating such tales to friends in England, they would say 'ah but it
is a different kind of heat there [Italy]', and when they expressed
surprise that I was moving to Scotland, I of course said 'but it is a
warmer kind of cold there'.

This does not explain why it feels different, only that my experiences and
my expectations are the same, while yours are not.

(Having read that back to 'spell check' it, I cannot help but wonder if
latitude/angle of the sun is a factor.)



Where IS here Gianni?



"Here" is Peterhead, Scotland.

And I am Gianna, not Gianni ... the difference being rather important (-:


--
Gianna

Trevor wrote:
"Gianna" wrote in message
...
Trevor wrote:
Can anyone explain why in the S of France on Thurs 11th (max temp 21C and
humidity 50%) felt pleasant to me (I think most Brits would have found it
cool) whilst arriving at Nottingham the next day (max 21C humidity 45%)
it felt stinking hot to me. I had to have all windows open in the car to
cool down, somthing I didn't need to do the week in France) Both had
winds force 3 to 4.

I find it mysterious!


The mystery may be based on an assumption that it should be otherwise.

I know, for example, that when it is a sunny 15C here, with light winds
etc., that it will feel much warmer than the same temperature in
Bedfordshire.
21C in Italy, would feel much less warm than 21C here. It was 22C here
the other day and it was hot ... people were carrying water if walking
into town.
30C in Italy is nice and warm, while anything over 25 in England has
always felt unbearably hot to me.

As for hot and sticky, I have mentioned before that when it feels "very
humid", the humidity is often not particularly high at the time. 45%
would be one of my lowest humidity figures here ... at a quick glance, one
49 and one 46 are the only 40-somethings in the last 120 days (which
happen to be on my desk).

When relating such tales to friends in England, they would say 'ah but it
is a different kind of heat there [Italy]', and when they expressed
surprise that I was moving to Scotland, I of course said 'but it is a
warmer kind of cold there'.

This does not explain why it feels different, only that my experiences and
my expectations are the same, while yours are not.

(Having read that back to 'spell check' it, I cannot help but wonder if
latitude/angle of the sun is a factor.)

Gianna

But sun angle should make S France feel warmer.



Why? Given that it is 21° in each location.


--
Gianna