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Totally OT but I've never known the palm trees so smothered in flowers.
The largest tree in our garden, which after many years without a severe winter is now well 20 feet tall, is a mass of flowers, and the scent is amazing. Picture at www.easterling.freeserve.co.uk/palm.html The photo was taken around 15:00BST today, notice the deep blue colour of the sky. Absolutely fantastic now the dirty air has been pushed away eastwards. Graham Penzance |
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Is that what is known as a Torbay palm, Graham? Do you know what its latin
species name is? ta, Dave "Graham Easterling" wrote in message oups.com... Totally OT but I've never known the palm trees so smothered in flowers. The largest tree in our garden, which after many years without a severe winter is now well 20 feet tall, is a mass of flowers, and the scent is amazing. Picture at www.easterling.freeserve.co.uk/palm.html The photo was taken around 15:00BST today, notice the deep blue colour of the sky. Absolutely fantastic now the dirty air has been pushed away eastwards. Graham Penzance |
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The largest tree in our garden, which after many years without a severe
winter is now well 20 feet tall, is a mass of flowers, and the scent is amazing. I noticed the palms' blossom/flowers were amazing too when I ventured into Exeter the other day. I gather they are not real palm trees; I think they are called Cabbage Trees in their native Australasia and are related to the Yucca. I have seen them growing back up in the West Midlands so they must be pretty frost hardy. ________________ Nick G Otter Valley, Devon 70 m amsl http://www.ottervalley.co.uk |
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Is that what is known as a Torbay palm, Graham? Do you know what its latin
species name is? Sorry Graham to answer your question! Yes, it is also known as the Torbay/Torquay Palm. The Latin name is Cordyline australis and it is a native of New Zealand, and not tropical at all. ________________ Nick G Otter Valley, Devon 70 m amsl |
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Nick,
The cabbage tree - cordyline banksii - is not the same as a Cornish / Torbay Palm. See www.trevenacross.co.uk/shop/page4a.htm. It's smaller & slower growing. Graham Nick G wrote: The largest tree in our garden, which after many years without a severe winter is now well 20 feet tall, is a mass of flowers, and the scent is amazing. I noticed the palms' blossom/flowers were amazing too when I ventured into Exeter the other day. I gather they are not real palm trees; I think they are called Cabbage Trees in their native Australasia and are related to the Yucca. I have seen them growing back up in the West Midlands so they must be pretty frost hardy. ________________ Nick G Otter Valley, Devon 70 m amsl http://www.ottervalley.co.uk |
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Just picking nits..
Cordyline Australis is a native tree in New Zealand where it is commonly called the cabbage tree. It is not Australian. Australis in this context means southern. They do survive and flower in Berkshire but the occasional hard winter (some time ago) has killed them. They are also quite common in Ireland. Wonderful photo - probably the best flowering cordyline I have seen. Steve "Graham Easterling" wrote in message ps.com... My palm trees are a variant of Cordyline Australis, an Australian Palm. Known as Torbay Palms in Devon, and not surprisingly, Cornish Palms in Cornwall. There are large variety of palm trees grown in Cornwall. As Nick says many are fairly hardy, but in my experience -5C is the absolute limit if they are wet, as the ice seems to kill them. www.trevenacross.co.uk/shop/page4a.htm shows some of the palm trees grown in Cornwall. Graham Dave.C wrote: Is that what is known as a Torbay palm, Graham? Do you know what its latin species name is? ta, Dave "Graham Easterling" wrote in message oups.com... Totally OT but I've never known the palm trees so smothered in flowers. The largest tree in our garden, which after many years without a severe winter is now well 20 feet tall, is a mass of flowers, and the scent is amazing. Picture at www.easterling.freeserve.co.uk/palm.html The photo was taken around 15:00BST today, notice the deep blue colour of the sky. Absolutely fantastic now the dirty air has been pushed away eastwards. Graham Penzance |
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Graham,
Cordyline Banksii and cordyline australis are two different species but, in New Zealand, both are called cabbage tree. C. Australis is by far the most common and spread throughout the country while c.banksii is a hardier version found in forested areas - hence called the forest cabbage tree. Steve "Graham Easterling" wrote in message oups.com... Nick, The cabbage tree - cordyline banksii - is not the same as a Cornish / Torbay Palm. See www.trevenacross.co.uk/shop/page4a.htm. It's smaller & slower growing. Graham Nick G wrote: The largest tree in our garden, which after many years without a severe winter is now well 20 feet tall, is a mass of flowers, and the scent is amazing. I noticed the palms' blossom/flowers were amazing too when I ventured into Exeter the other day. I gather they are not real palm trees; I think they are called Cabbage Trees in their native Australasia and are related to the Yucca. I have seen them growing back up in the West Midlands so they must be pretty frost hardy. ________________ Nick G Otter Valley, Devon 70 m amsl http://www.ottervalley.co.uk |
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Steve Thomas wrote:
Graham, Cordyline Banksii and cordyline australis are two different species but, in New Zealand, both are called cabbage tree. C. Australis is by far the most common and spread throughout the country while c.banksii is a hardier version found in forested areas - hence called the forest cabbage tree. Steve "Graham Easterling" wrote in message oups.com... Nick, The cabbage tree - cordyline banksii - is not the same as a Cornish / Torbay Palm. See www.trevenacross.co.uk/shop/page4a.htm. It's smaller & slower growing. Graham Nick G wrote: The largest tree in our garden, which after many years without a severe winter is now well 20 feet tall, is a mass of flowers, and the scent is amazing. I noticed the palms' blossom/flowers were amazing too when I ventured into Exeter the other day. I gather they are not real palm trees; I think they are called Cabbage Trees in their native Australasia and are related to the Yucca. I have seen them growing back up in the West Midlands so they must be pretty frost hardy. ________________ Nick G Otter Valley, Devon 70 m amsl http://www.ottervalley.co.uk Is this the same tree the 'Nut' comes from that I use for turning. Sold as Banksii Nuts. Joe |
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On 12 Jun 2006 13:09:04 -0700, "Graham Easterling"
wrote: My palm trees are a variant of Cordyline Australis, an Australian Palm. Known as Torbay Palms in Devon, and not surprisingly, Cornish Palms in Cornwall. There are large variety of palm trees grown in Cornwall. As Nick says many are fairly hardy, but in my experience -5C is the absolute limit if they are wet, as the ice seems to kill them. www.trevenacross.co.uk/shop/page4a.htm shows some of the palm trees grown in Cornwall. Graham A sign of the times, I guess but many garden centres are now selling agaves, oleanders and other semi-tropical/mediterranean type plants. Our yucca on our front lawn has grown so well in recent years it is now resembling a joshua tree, and has just thrown up five huge flower spikes, looking a bit like giant asparagus. Martin |
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In message , Steve Thomas
writes Just picking nits.. Cordyline Australis is a native tree in New Zealand where it is commonly called the cabbage tree. It is not Australian. Australis in this context means southern. They do survive and flower in Berkshire but the occasional hard winter (some time ago) has killed them. They are also quite common in Ireland. They also grow freely here in the Isle of Man, because we have exceptionally mild winters for our latitude. Guess what? They're called the Manx Palm too! -- Alan |
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