I am involved in a ludicrous battle with my 13 yr-old daughter's
school. Polly got three yellow cards which meant an automatic red
(detention) for undoing her top collar button in this hot weather. I
would stress that I'm not moaning about her particular punishment,
but simply complaining about unreasonable school rules.

Not only is it plain daft to insist that the children are uncomfortable
simply to comply with some old fashioned rules, I have pointed out to
the school that with the modern culture of "Health & Safety",
insisting that top buttons are done up in what are offically "heatwave
condtions" could leave the school open to all sorts of problems.

When I was in the Air Force some 30 years ago, in extremely hot
weather, the station Tannoy would broadcast "shirt sleeve order"
which meant that jackets could be discarded, ties removed and shirt
sleeves rolled up.

Later when an Airline Captain I would say to the First Officer: "Well
I don't know about you, but I'm taking my tie off". Goodness
knows what our passengers thought when the walked out to the aircraft
to see two pilots with OPEN NECKED shirts. They must have got an
impression of a severe lack of professionalism:-)

Jack

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I am involved in a ludicrous battle with my 13 yr-old daughter's
school. Polly got three yellow cards which meant an automatic red
(detention) for undoing her top collar button in this hot weather. I
would stress that I'm not moaning about her particular punishment,
but simply complaining about unreasonable school rules.

My God, undoing her top collar button, obviously a detention offence!

Not only is it plain daft to insist that the children are uncomfortable
simply to comply with some old fashioned rules, I have pointed out to
the school that with the modern culture of "Health & Safety",
insisting that top buttons are done up in what are offically "heatwave
condtions" could leave the school open to all sorts of problems.

That's a good tactic, using the H&S stuff against them.
I dunno if you agree with all that stuff but if it gives you some leverage
then why not. They don't like it up 'em

When I was in the Air Force some 30 years ago, in extremely hot
weather, the station Tannoy would broadcast "shirt sleeve order"
which meant that jackets could be discarded, ties removed and shirt
sleeves rolled up.

I wear short sleeved shirts all year anyway but I have this rule that
if it gets to 25C then my tie comes off. Nobody complains we're
quite flexible at my place of work.

Later when an Airline Captain I would say to the First Officer: "Well
I don't know about you, but I'm taking my tie off". Goodness
knows what our passengers thought when the walked out to the aircraft
to see two pilots with OPEN NECKED shirts. They must have got an
impression of a severe lack of professionalism:-)

My GOD, how on earth did you manage to fly that plane wearing that
kind of attire?

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.

schreef in bericht
oups.com...
I am involved in a ludicrous battle with my 13 yr-old daughter's
school. Polly got three yellow cards which meant an automatic red
(detention) for undoing her top collar button in this hot weather. I
would stress that I'm not moaning about her particular punishment,
but simply complaining about unreasonable school rules.

Not only is it plain daft to insist that the children are uncomfortable
simply to comply with some old fashioned rules, I have pointed out to
the school that with the modern culture of "Health & Safety",
insisting that top buttons are done up in what are offically "heatwave
condtions" could leave the school open to all sorts of problems.

When I was in the Air Force some 30 years ago, in extremely hot
weather, the station Tannoy would broadcast "shirt sleeve order"
which meant that jackets could be discarded, ties removed and shirt
sleeves rolled up.

Later when an Airline Captain I would say to the First Officer: "Well
I don't know about you, but I'm taking my tie off". Goodness
knows what our passengers thought when the walked out to the aircraft
to see two pilots with OPEN NECKED shirts. They must have got an
impression of a severe lack of professionalism:-)


Jack, i know its completely off-topic, but can't resist replying. Those poor
kids!! As you may know in Holland the culture of school uniforms is
unknown...in the best case taken as some relict from the Dark-Ages. But
maybe you consider us from another planet) Whatever... I totally agree
with you!
Can remember last year an inventive guy in Japan -- where suit and tie was
dress code for gouvernmental employees as well as in most companies -
designed "hot weather"-shirts; just to get rid of that tie, lethal in
heat-wave conditions. Main goal was saving energy as the airconditioning in
most buildings could be brought down, when all employees could throw off
their ties.

By the way if I were one of your passengers back then....am not sure what to
think; but I'd probably consider you had a hell of a job in that cockpit).

Wijke
Heat-wave Netherlands Tc 28.5°C

schreef in bericht
oups.com...
I am involved in a ludicrous battle with my 13 yr-old daughter's
school. Polly got three yellow cards which meant an automatic red
(detention) for undoing her top collar button in this hot weather. I
would stress that I'm not moaning about her particular punishment,
but simply complaining about unreasonable school rules.


.... Although not (thankfully) at the same tragic level, perhaps the
school authorities might like to be aware of this news article ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/5143584.stm

Martin.


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Jack

At my sons school, where uniform is usually strictly enforced, he hasn't
had to wear a tie or have his top button done up for about 2 or 3 weeks.

Regards

Neil

wrote:
I am involved in a ludicrous battle with my 13 yr-old daughter's
school. Polly got three yellow cards which meant an automatic red
(detention) for undoing her top collar button in this hot weather. I
would stress that I'm not moaning about her particular punishment,
but simply complaining about unreasonable school rules.

Not only is it plain daft to insist that the children are uncomfortable
simply to comply with some old fashioned rules, I have pointed out to
the school that with the modern culture of "Health & Safety",
insisting that top buttons are done up in what are offically "heatwave
condtions" could leave the school open to all sorts of problems.

When I was in the Air Force some 30 years ago, in extremely hot
weather, the station Tannoy would broadcast "shirt sleeve order"
which meant that jackets could be discarded, ties removed and shirt
sleeves rolled up.

Later when an Airline Captain I would say to the First Officer: "Well
I don't know about you, but I'm taking my tie off". Goodness
knows what our passengers thought when the walked out to the aircraft
to see two pilots with OPEN NECKED shirts. They must have got an
impression of a severe lack of professionalism:-)

Jack

On 4 Jul 2006 11:13:06 -0700, wrote:

I am involved in a ludicrous battle with my 13 yr-old daughter's
school.

And no doubt they ban conkers,snowballs within 65metres,daisy chains
and all the rest. Frankly, ludicrous.
R

i remember a long thread in 1998 with the anally retentive head of
Erith school saying may god daughter couldn't wear trousers in
winter....

save the energy, give her a few days off (provided shes played the game
and is on the ball and up 2 date)

"keith w" wrote in message
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i remember a long thread in 1998 with the anally retentive head of
Erith school saying may god daughter couldn't wear trousers in
winter....

When I was about 10 years old I was sent home from school in a raging
blizzard because my mum had insisted I wear trousers rather than a skirt and
ankle socks. I thought things had improved since those days. Evidently not.
(My mum didn't let me go back until the weather improved, and you can
imagine how furious she was that they made me walk home alone in a howling
blizzard!)

ally

In message , a l l y
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"keith w" wrote in message
oups.com...
i remember a long thread in 1998 with the anally retentive head of
Erith school saying may god daughter couldn't wear trousers in
winter....

When I was about 10 years old I was sent home from school in a raging
blizzard because my mum had insisted I wear trousers rather than a skirt and
ankle socks. I thought things had improved since those days. Evidently not.
(My mum didn't let me go back until the weather improved, and you can
imagine how furious she was that they made me walk home alone in a howling
blizzard!)

When I was a secondary school we all wore mini-skirts no matter how cold
it was. Of course we wore thick tights with them, but all the same...

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Email to: ramwater at uk2 dot net

a l l y wrote:


"keith w" wrote in message
ups.com...
i remember a long thread in 1998 with the anally retentive head of
Erith school saying may god daughter couldn't wear trousers in
winter....

When I was about 10 years old I was sent home from school in a raging
blizzard because my mum had insisted I wear trousers rather than a skirt
and ankle socks. I thought things had improved since those days. Evidently
not. (My mum didn't let me go back until the weather improved, and you can
imagine how furious she was that they made me walk home alone in a howling
blizzard!)



A few years ago, a school here sent a pupil home for wearing a white cotton
shirt instead of a white polyester shirt.

--
Graham Davis
Bracknell