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Tudor Hughes July 18th 06 12:59 PM

A degree of hype
 
Rod McElwee said on the 1255 pm R4 forecast that he expected
37°C somewhere in the Midlands or Welsh borders tomorrow (Wednesday),
much as he did yesterday. I can't help feeling this hot spell has been
somewhat overdone by the forecasters and have thought so for several
days. Today's temperatures, according to the latest METARs, are more
or less the same as yesterday's and nowhere near 37°. I can't see
where the sudden upward leap for tomorrow is going to come from.
Thickness values are forecast to decrease slightly and the continent is
not exceptionally hot.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.


Robin Nicholson July 18th 06 01:53 PM

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On 18 Jul 2006 05:59:24 -0700, "Tudor Hughes"
wrote:

Rod McElwee said on the 1255 pm R4 forecast that he expected
37°C somewhere in the Midlands or Welsh borders tomorrow (Wednesday),
much as he did yesterday.


I think he also gave a list at the end of the BBC1 news of the
possible places that might top the list and I am certain stately
Cheltenham was the favourite. A more modest 30 odd here as I continue
my loft clearing activities ( in a far higher temperature..just taking
up my thermometer to measure it actually!)
R

Wijke July 18th 06 01:54 PM

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"Tudor Hughes" schreef in bericht
oups.com...
Rod McElwee said on the 1255 pm R4 forecast that he expected
37°C somewhere in the Midlands or Welsh borders tomorrow (Wednesday),
much as he did yesterday. I can't help feeling this hot spell has been
somewhat overdone by the forecasters and have thought so for several
days. Today's temperatures, according to the latest METARs, are more
or less the same as yesterday's and nowhere near 37°. I can't see
where the sudden upward leap for tomorrow is going to come from.
Thickness values are forecast to decrease slightly and the continent is
not exceptionally hot.


Here also bit of temperature hype, Tudor. BBC gives 38c for de Bilt
tomorrow. Don't think so... a good 34ish i suppose. We'll see...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=4219


Wijke
Centre of the Netherlands
Tc 33.1°



GKN July 18th 06 02:16 PM

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Same here Tudor in Basildon, its now 15.00 and its just reached 29.3 Deg C
in the shade with a light easterly breeze.
We saw all this hype during the winter forecasts and I am sure its all this
health & safety legislation that drags this country down. Cant even buy a
good flykiller anymore and even the weedkillers dont seem to be as effective
in the garden.
It never mattered in 76, so why now???

Regards. Len.
"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message
oups.com...
Rod McElwee said on the 1255 pm R4 forecast that he expected
37°C somewhere in the Midlands or Welsh borders tomorrow (Wednesday),
much as he did yesterday. I can't help feeling this hot spell has been
somewhat overdone by the forecasters and have thought so for several
days. Today's temperatures, according to the latest METARs, are more
or less the same as yesterday's and nowhere near 37°. I can't see
where the sudden upward leap for tomorrow is going to come from.
Thickness values are forecast to decrease slightly and the continent is
not exceptionally hot.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.



[email protected] July 18th 06 02:36 PM

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GKN wrote:
Same here Tudor in Basildon, its now 15.00 and its just reached 29.3 Deg C
in the shade with a light easterly breeze.
We saw all this hype during the winter forecasts and I am sure its all this
health & safety legislation that drags this country down. Cant even buy a
good flykiller anymore and even the weedkillers dont seem to be as effective
in the garden.
It never mattered in 76, so why now???


What on Earth does "health & safety legislation" have to do with the
accuracy or otherwise of weather forecasts? I've seen health & safety
blamed for a lot of things, but that takes the biscuit!


GKN July 18th 06 02:39 PM

A degree of hype
 
Over hyping the forecast, so they cannnot be blamed if people start passing
out with the heat. Think about it!!!!
They do the same with forecasts of snow. The motto is over do it, and they
cant say they were not warned!!!
wrote in message
oups.com...

GKN wrote:
Same here Tudor in Basildon, its now 15.00 and its just reached 29.3 Deg
C
in the shade with a light easterly breeze.
We saw all this hype during the winter forecasts and I am sure its all
this
health & safety legislation that drags this country down. Cant even buy a
good flykiller anymore and even the weedkillers dont seem to be as
effective
in the garden.
It never mattered in 76, so why now???


What on Earth does "health & safety legislation" have to do with the
accuracy or otherwise of weather forecasts? I've seen health & safety
blamed for a lot of things, but that takes the biscuit!




alanwhitewick July 18th 06 03:28 PM

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Not so sure about the overhype.
Max here in Wincanton Somerset today has reached 34.3C at about
1530.(very uncomfortable)
Alan
www.wincantonweather.org.uk

GKN wrote:
Over hyping the forecast, so they cannnot be blamed if people start passing
out with the heat. Think about it!!!!
They do the same with forecasts of snow. The motto is over do it, and they
cant say they were not warned!!!
wrote in message
oups.com...
GKN wrote:
Same here Tudor in Basildon, its now 15.00 and its just reached 29.3 Deg
C
in the shade with a light easterly breeze.
We saw all this hype during the winter forecasts and I am sure its all
this
health & safety legislation that drags this country down. Cant even buy a
good flykiller anymore and even the weedkillers dont seem to be as
effective
in the garden.
It never mattered in 76, so why now???

What on Earth does "health & safety legislation" have to do with the
accuracy or otherwise of weather forecasts? I've seen health & safety
blamed for a lot of things, but that takes the biscuit!




Brian Wakem July 18th 06 03:32 PM

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alanwhitewick wrote:

Not so sure about the overhype.
Max here in Wincanton Somerset today has reached 34.3C at about
1530.(very uncomfortable)
Alan
www.wincantonweather.org.uk



33.4C in Fleet, Hampshire. Very oppressive, thoroughly looking forward to a
cool, wet autumn.


--
Brian Wakem
Email: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/b.wakem/myemail.png

[email protected] July 18th 06 03:37 PM

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Brian Wakem wrote:
33.4C in Fleet, Hampshire. Very oppressive, thoroughly looking forward to a
cool, wet autumn.


And 33.6 in Aldershot. The highest "official" max I've seen is Wouldn't
say it's oppressive though - very low humidity and a pleasant breeze -
but a warm breeze, so none of the usual unpleasant chilliness you feel
in a British summer breeze. Most pleasant summer conditions I can
imagine.

As for the H&S excuse, it sounds like nonsense to me -- the weather
does what it does with no help from the forecasters, so nobody is going
to blame the Met Office if they get too hot!

Tomorrow, the Met Office goes for a max of 35C, which looks likely to
me with a southerly wind and 850mb temps a degree up on today. If you
look at their forecast maps, the earlier 37s and 38s have been removed.


[email protected] July 18th 06 03:38 PM

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Brian Wakem wrote:

33.4C in Fleet, Hampshire. Very oppressive, thoroughly looking forward to a
cool, wet autumn.


And 33.6 in Aldershot. Wouldn't say it's oppressive though - very low
humidity and a pleasant breeze - but a warm breeze, so none of the
usual unpleasant chilliness you feel in a British summer breeze. Most
pleasant summer conditions I can imagine. Highest "official" max I've
seen is 32.7 at Wisley.

As for the H&S excuse, it sounds like nonsense to me -- the weather
does what it does with no help from the forecasters, so nobody is going
to blame the Met Office if they get too hot!

Tomorrow, the Met Office goes for a max of 35C, which looks likely to
me with a southerly wind and 850mb temps a degree up on today. If you
look at their forecast maps, the earlier 37s and 38s have been removed.

(Apologies if post is duplicated)


Brian Wakem July 18th 06 03:46 PM

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wrote:


Brian Wakem wrote:

33.4C in Fleet, Hampshire. Very oppressive, thoroughly looking forward
to a cool, wet autumn.


And 33.6 in Aldershot. Wouldn't say it's oppressive though - very low
humidity and a pleasant breeze - but a warm breeze,



Pleasant breeze outside maybe. I'm stuck indoors where it is 34.1C and the
fan is blowing hot air at me.


--
Brian Wakem
Email:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/b.wakem/myemail.png

Graham P Davis July 18th 06 04:12 PM

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GKN wrote:

Over hyping the forecast, so they cannnot be blamed if people start
passing out with the heat. Think about it!!!!
They do the same with forecasts of snow. The motto is over do it, and they
cant say they were not warned!!!


Part of their pay depends on getting forecasts right but they deliberately
get them wrong for Health & Safety reasons? Yes, that seems likely.

--
Graham Davis
Bracknell


Graham P Davis July 18th 06 04:43 PM

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Brian Wakem wrote:


Pleasant breeze outside maybe. I'm stuck indoors where it is 34.1C and
the fan is blowing hot air at me.



It's a relatively chilly 25 in my lounge at the moment. Unfortunately, my
computer is upstairs where it's 30.

--
Graham Davis
Bracknell


BlueLightning July 18th 06 04:44 PM

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If yer quick look at:

http://meteocentre.com/lightning/map...time=0&lang=en

If yer not quick, try click 1,2 or 3 hours ago and click Go

The storms down over spain (mostly orange, red and purples) indicating
high amounts of lightning strikes - forms a pointer arrow shape (north
in the Bay of Biscay)

I think they know which way to come... this way my babies.... this way
!!!!!!


BlueLightning July 18th 06 04:50 PM

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Actually, i took a snapshot - look for the north-ward pointing arrow
shape within the crosses

http://tinyurl.com/ej3o9


Tudor Hughes July 18th 06 04:59 PM

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Graham P Davis wrote:
GKN wrote:

Over hyping the forecast, so they cannnot be blamed if people start
passing out with the heat. Think about it!!!!
They do the same with forecasts of snow. The motto is over do it, and they
cant say they were not warned!!!


Part of their pay depends on getting forecasts right but they deliberately
get them wrong for Health & Safety reasons? Yes, that seems likely.

--
Graham Davis
Bracknell


That's quite an accusation if it refers to the actual
temperature values being deliberately inflated as opposed to merely
exaggerating the *effects* of high temperatures. I'd like to think the
Met Office or the BBC haven't descended to those depths, but maybe they
have.
Max temp here 32.4°C, 0.9°C higher than yesterday. Last
night's min was 10.4° and the diurnal range is within 0.1° of my
record (starting 1983).

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 556 ft.


Paul Hyett July 18th 06 05:30 PM

A degree of hype
 
In message , Robin Nicholson
writes

Rod McElwee said on the 1255 pm R4 forecast that he expected
37°C somewhere in the Midlands or Welsh borders tomorrow (Wednesday),
much as he did yesterday.


I think he also gave a list at the end of the BBC1 news of the
possible places that might top the list and I am certain stately
Cheltenham was the favourite.


With the slight problem that Cheltenham doesn't have an official weather
station any longer.

Bear that in mind if they start quoting temperatures at you tomorrow -
they can't be from the same location that recorded 99F in 1990.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

Paul Hyett July 18th 06 05:30 PM

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In message om,
writes

Brian Wakem wrote:
33.4C in Fleet, Hampshire. Very oppressive, thoroughly looking forward to a
cool, wet autumn.


And 33.6 in Aldershot. The highest "official" max I've seen is Wouldn't
say it's oppressive though - very low humidity and a pleasant breeze -
but a warm breeze, so none of the usual unpleasant chilliness you feel
in a British summer breeze. Most pleasant summer conditions I can
imagine.


33.0C here today, but with a 7C dewpoint.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)


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