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posted on 3 Nov 2006 by Will Hand I would like to add: "Dave.C" wrote in message . uk... I remember walking into a lampost as a child as you literally couldn't see in front of your face. The deadening of all sound is another vivid memory. I also recall whenever we drove from Essex to relatives in West London a smog always seemed to appear when we hit Barking. The fog seems to be one thing us older ones can all agree on! Dave Yep I can remember Manchester in the late 1950s when I was about 6 or 7, fogs were so thick that if you put your hand out in front of your face you couldn't see it barely and I exagerrate not. They were very sooty too. Always told to cover my mouth. Yet by the mid 60s those fogs were a thing of the past. Then I probably experienced one of the last ones when I was at college in 1965 - everything came to a halt and I had to walk from Picadilly to Whalley Range, going round the back of All Saints and through Moss Side, which was a bit scary as it was mostly flattened prior to rebuilding with scattered pubs which could not be demolished until licences ran out (I think). -- ..ElaineJ. Briallen Gifts/Cards catalogue at http://www.briallen.co.uk ..Virtual. Corn Dollies, Cards, Coasters, Mousemats, Kids' Tshirts StrongArm Jones' Pages at http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/ejones ..RISC PC. Corwen, North Wales; Steam Traction;CMMGB&Yukon Volunteers. |
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![]() Off course I was born during the November Pea souper in 1952, and that probably expalins a lot! Doesn't explain why your calendar was a month slow, though. I visited London in the middle of that great smog, 6 Dec 1952 (age just 10). It was *very* thick but don't believe all those idiots who tell you "you couldn't see your arm in front of you - literally!" You could see at least 10 yards and few people I know, even Arsenal supporters, have arms that long. The dirt was extraordinary. In a heated building in central London the visibility would have been less than 100 yd (had the building been that big) just due to soot and smoke. Most of the smoke was due to domestic fires with a fair contribution from industry. Above the fog (ca 400 ft) there was a clear blue sky. At the time I remember thinking "cor, this a really good one!" but there were plenty of others not quite in the same class. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. |
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Tudor Hughes wrote:
Off course I was born during the November Pea souper in 1952, and that probably expalins a lot! Doesn't explain why your calendar was a month slow, though. I visited London in the middle of that great smog, 6 Dec 1952 (age just 10). It was *very* thick but don't believe all those idiots who tell you "you couldn't see your arm in front of you - literally!" You could see at least 10 yards and few people I know, even Arsenal supporters, have arms that long. I remember travelling on the Birch Bros. coach from Rushden to Bedford in 1962 (probably) and the driver being warned not to leave the coach when he arrived in London else he'd never find it again. In about 1950, in Rushden, I recall a fog with visibility of no more than three yards. That would have been assisted by the smoke from chimney fires, but I also remember a couple of fogs in the smokeless zone of Bracknell in the late sixties when the visibility was below five yards. They were presumably exacerbated by imported smoke. I don't recall having seen anything during the past couple of decades or so with visibilities below 100M. -- Graham Davis Bracknell |
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![]() "Graham P Davis" wrote : Tudor Hughes wrote: Off course I was born during the November Pea souper in 1952, and that probably expalins a lot! Doesn't explain why your calendar was a month slow, though. I visited London in the middle of that great smog, 6 Dec 1952 (age just 10). It was *very* thick but don't believe all those idiots who tell you "you couldn't see your arm in front of you - literally!" You could see at least 10 yards and few people I know, even Arsenal supporters, have arms that long. I remember travelling on the Birch Bros. coach from Rushden to Bedford in 1962 (probably) and the driver being warned not to leave the coach when he arrived in London else he'd never find it again. Birch coaches! Now, there's a vision from the past. We were terribly excited when one stopped at our bus-stop ... so much more comfortable and faster than the old United Counties and Luton Corporation buses. Philip |
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![]() "Tudor Hughes" wrote in message ups.com... Off course I was born during the November Pea souper in 1952, and that probably expalins a lot! Doesn't explain why your calendar was a month slow, though. I visited London in the middle of that great smog, 6 Dec 1952 (age just 10). It was *very* thick but don't believe all those idiots who tell you "you couldn't see your arm in front of you - literally!" You could see at least 10 yards and few people I know, even Arsenal supporters, have arms that long. The dirt was extraordinary. In a heated building in central London the visibility would have been less than 100 yd (had the building been that big) just due to soot and smoke. Most of the smoke was due to domestic fires with a fair contribution from industry. Above the fog (ca 400 ft) there was a clear blue sky. At the time I remember thinking "cor, this a really good one!" but there were plenty of others not quite in the same class. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. Tudor my mother assure me that shortly after my birth on the 13th November the fog decended upon the mean streets of Camberwell. Of course I've had to rely on her befuddled account as I don't remember too much. But she has now assured me it was several weeks after my birth. I hope that clears that up for you. |
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"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
... A decade or so ago I would have looked at the forthcoming charts showing high pressure on the near continent with a slack southerly flow and almost guaranteed widespread fogs. However, so far the forecasts have hardly mentioned fog(s). Strong indication of fairly dense fog formation over England and Wales on Sunday night. TAFs trending towards this, e.g. Birmingham EGBB 041626Z 050024 26005KT 6000 FEW025 TEMPO 0013 4000 FU BR PROB30 TEMPO 0510 1200 MIFG TEMPO 1318 9999 BECMG 1720 4000 FU BR TEMPO 2124 0800 FG= More is expected tonight too compared to last night, more especially in the SW, e.g Bristol EGGD 041622Z 050024 27005KT 6000 NSC TEMPO 0012 3000 BR PROB30 TEMPO 0310 0600 FG PROB30 1216 9999 BECMG 1619 3000 BR PROB30 TEMPO 1924 0200 FG VV///= Smoke haze now making an appearce in a few METARs :- Southend EGMC 042050Z 28004KT 4000 HZ FU SKC 07/04 Q1033 Stansted EGSS 042120Z 24004KT 5000 FU SKC 05/04 Q1033 Birmingham EGBB 042050Z 23004KT 1800 R15/1200 FU NSC 07/04 Q1033 Lyneham EGDL 042050Z 23006KT 8000 5000NW FU FEW050 BKN250 06/04 Q1034 TEMPO 4000 BR Southampton EGHI 042050Z 00000KT 4000 FU NSC 00/M01 Q1035 Brize EGVN 042050Z 25002KT 4000 FU FEW005 BKN250 03/02 Q1034 TEMPO 3000 SCT005 The trapped aerosols likely to further aid fog formation tomorrow. Jon. |
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In message , Jon O'Rourke
writes "Keith (Southend)" wrote in message ... A decade or so ago I would have looked at the forthcoming charts showing high pressure on the near continent with a slack southerly flow and almost guaranteed widespread fogs. However, so far the forecasts have hardly mentioned fog(s). Strong indication of fairly dense fog formation over England and Wales on Sunday night. TAFs trending towards this, e.g. Birmingham EGBB 041626Z 050024 26005KT 6000 FEW025 TEMPO 0013 4000 FU BR PROB30 TEMPO 0510 1200 MIFG TEMPO 1318 9999 BECMG 1720 4000 FU BR TEMPO 2124 0800 FG= More is expected tonight too compared to last night, more especially in the SW, e.g Bristol EGGD 041622Z 050024 27005KT 6000 NSC TEMPO 0012 3000 BR PROB30 TEMPO 0310 0600 FG PROB30 1216 9999 BECMG 1619 3000 BR PROB30 TEMPO 1924 0200 FG VV///= Smoke haze now making an appearce in a few METARs :- Southend EGMC 042050Z 28004KT 4000 HZ FU SKC 07/04 Q1033 Stansted EGSS 042120Z 24004KT 5000 FU SKC 05/04 Q1033 Birmingham EGBB 042050Z 23004KT 1800 R15/1200 FU NSC 07/04 Q1033 Lyneham EGDL 042050Z 23006KT 8000 5000NW FU FEW050 BKN250 06/04 Q1034 TEMPO 4000 BR Southampton EGHI 042050Z 00000KT 4000 FU NSC 00/M01 Q1035 Brize EGVN 042050Z 25002KT 4000 FU FEW005 BKN250 03/02 Q1034 TEMPO 3000 SCT005 The trapped aerosols likely to further aid fog formation tomorrow. Jon. The murk has thickened to fog in Chalfont St Giles during the past hour. Currently (2230z) around 800 metres. Norman (delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail) -- Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy Chalfont St Giles 85m a.s.l. England |
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Norman Lynagh wrote:
In message , Jon O'Rourke writes "Keith (Southend)" wrote in message ... A decade or so ago I would have looked at the forthcoming charts showing high pressure on the near continent with a slack southerly flow and almost guaranteed widespread fogs. However, so far the forecasts have hardly mentioned fog(s). Strong indication of fairly dense fog formation over England and Wales on Sunday night. TAFs trending towards this, e.g. Birmingham EGBB 041626Z 050024 26005KT 6000 FEW025 TEMPO 0013 4000 FU BR PROB30 TEMPO 0510 1200 MIFG TEMPO 1318 9999 BECMG 1720 4000 FU BR TEMPO 2124 0800 FG= More is expected tonight too compared to last night, more especially in the SW, e.g Bristol EGGD 041622Z 050024 27005KT 6000 NSC TEMPO 0012 3000 BR PROB30 TEMPO 0310 0600 FG PROB30 1216 9999 BECMG 1619 3000 BR PROB30 TEMPO 1924 0200 FG VV///= Smoke haze now making an appearce in a few METARs :- Southend EGMC 042050Z 28004KT 4000 HZ FU SKC 07/04 Q1033 Stansted EGSS 042120Z 24004KT 5000 FU SKC 05/04 Q1033 Birmingham EGBB 042050Z 23004KT 1800 R15/1200 FU NSC 07/04 Q1033 Lyneham EGDL 042050Z 23006KT 8000 5000NW FU FEW050 BKN250 06/04 Q1034 TEMPO 4000 BR Southampton EGHI 042050Z 00000KT 4000 FU NSC 00/M01 Q1035 Brize EGVN 042050Z 25002KT 4000 FU FEW005 BKN250 03/02 Q1034 TEMPO 3000 SCT005 The trapped aerosols likely to further aid fog formation tomorrow. Jon. The murk has thickened to fog in Chalfont St Giles during the past hour. Currently (2230z) around 800 metres. Norman (delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail) Ah ah, maybe my plan worked ;-) -- Keith (Southend) http://www.southendweather.net e-mail: kreh at southendweather dot net |
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In article , Elaine Jones says...
snip rebuilding with scattered pubs which could not be demolished until licences ran out (I think). Close g More to do with the *transfer* of the licence to the brewery's *new* and probably not yet built pub. -- David Visit http://www.farm-direct.co.uk for your local farmgate food supplies. FAQ's, Glossary, Farming Year and more! |
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