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posted on 3 Nov 2006 by Will Hand
I would like to add:


"Dave.C" wrote in message
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I remember walking into a lampost as a child as you literally couldn't
see in front of your face. The deadening of all sound is another vivid
memory. I also recall whenever we drove from Essex to relatives in
West London a smog always seemed to appear when we hit Barking. The
fog seems to be one thing us older ones can all agree on! Dave


Yep I can remember Manchester in the late 1950s when I was about 6 or
7, fogs were so thick that if you put your hand out in front of your
face you couldn't see it barely and I exagerrate not. They were very
sooty too. Always told to cover my mouth. Yet by the mid 60s those
fogs were a thing of the past.

Then I probably experienced one of the last ones when I was at college
in 1965 - everything came to a halt and I had to walk from Picadilly
to Whalley Range, going round the back of All Saints and through Moss
Side, which was a bit scary as it was mostly flattened prior to
rebuilding with scattered pubs which could not be demolished until
licences ran out (I think).

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Off course I was born during the November Pea souper in 1952, and that
probably expalins a lot!

Doesn't explain why your calendar was a month slow, though.
I visited London in the middle of that great smog, 6 Dec 1952 (age just
10). It was *very* thick but don't believe all those idiots who tell
you "you couldn't see your arm in front of you - literally!" You could
see at least 10 yards and few people I know, even Arsenal supporters,
have arms that long. The dirt was extraordinary. In a heated building
in central London the visibility would have been less than 100 yd (had
the building been that big) just due to soot and smoke. Most of the
smoke was due to domestic fires with a fair contribution from industry.
Above the fog (ca 400 ft) there was a clear blue sky. At the time I
remember thinking "cor, this a really good one!" but there were plenty
of others not quite in the same class.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

Tudor Hughes wrote:






Off course I was born during the November Pea souper in 1952, and that
probably expalins a lot!

Doesn't explain why your calendar was a month slow, though.
I visited London in the middle of that great smog, 6 Dec 1952 (age just
10). It was *very* thick but don't believe all those idiots who tell
you "you couldn't see your arm in front of you - literally!" You could
see at least 10 yards and few people I know, even Arsenal supporters,
have arms that long.

I remember travelling on the Birch Bros. coach from Rushden to Bedford in
1962 (probably) and the driver being warned not to leave the coach when he
arrived in London else he'd never find it again.

In about 1950, in Rushden, I recall a fog with visibility of no more than
three yards. That would have been assisted by the smoke from chimney fires,
but I also remember a couple of fogs in the smokeless zone of Bracknell in
the late sixties when the visibility was below five yards. They were
presumably exacerbated by imported smoke. I don't recall having seen
anything during the past couple of decades or so with visibilities below
100M.

--
Graham Davis
Bracknell

"Graham P Davis" wrote :
Tudor Hughes wrote:

Off course I was born during the November Pea souper in 1952, and that
probably expalins a lot!

Doesn't explain why your calendar was a month slow, though.
I visited London in the middle of that great smog, 6 Dec 1952 (age just
10). It was *very* thick but don't believe all those idiots who tell
you "you couldn't see your arm in front of you - literally!" You could
see at least 10 yards and few people I know, even Arsenal supporters,
have arms that long.

I remember travelling on the Birch Bros. coach from Rushden to Bedford in
1962 (probably) and the driver being warned not to leave the coach when he
arrived in London else he'd never find it again.

Birch coaches! Now, there's a vision from the past. We were terribly
excited when one stopped at our bus-stop ... so much more comfortable
and faster than the old United Counties and Luton Corporation buses.

Philip

"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message
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Off course I was born during the November Pea souper in 1952, and that
probably expalins a lot!

Doesn't explain why your calendar was a month slow, though.
I visited London in the middle of that great smog, 6 Dec 1952 (age just
10). It was *very* thick but don't believe all those idiots who tell
you "you couldn't see your arm in front of you - literally!" You could
see at least 10 yards and few people I know, even Arsenal supporters,
have arms that long. The dirt was extraordinary. In a heated building
in central London the visibility would have been less than 100 yd (had
the building been that big) just due to soot and smoke. Most of the
smoke was due to domestic fires with a fair contribution from industry.
Above the fog (ca 400 ft) there was a clear blue sky. At the time I
remember thinking "cor, this a really good one!" but there were plenty
of others not quite in the same class.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.


Tudor my mother assure me that shortly after my birth on the 13th November
the fog decended upon the mean streets of Camberwell. Of course I've had to
rely on her befuddled account as I don't remember too much. But she has now
assured me it was several weeks after my birth. I hope that clears that up
for you.

"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
...
A decade or so ago I would have looked at the forthcoming charts showing
high pressure on the near continent with a slack southerly flow and
almost guaranteed widespread fogs. However, so far the forecasts have
hardly mentioned fog(s).

Strong indication of fairly dense fog formation over England and Wales on
Sunday night.
TAFs trending towards this, e.g. Birmingham

EGBB 041626Z 050024 26005KT 6000 FEW025 TEMPO 0013 4000 FU BR
PROB30 TEMPO 0510 1200 MIFG TEMPO 1318 9999 BECMG 1720 4000 FU
BR TEMPO 2124 0800 FG=

More is expected tonight too compared to last night, more especially in the
SW,
e.g Bristol

EGGD 041622Z 050024 27005KT 6000 NSC TEMPO 0012 3000 BR PROB30
TEMPO 0310 0600 FG PROB30 1216 9999 BECMG 1619 3000 BR PROB30
TEMPO 1924 0200 FG VV///=

Smoke haze now making an appearce in a few METARs :-

Southend EGMC 042050Z 28004KT 4000 HZ FU SKC 07/04 Q1033
Stansted EGSS 042120Z 24004KT 5000 FU SKC 05/04 Q1033
Birmingham EGBB 042050Z 23004KT 1800 R15/1200 FU NSC 07/04 Q1033
Lyneham EGDL 042050Z 23006KT 8000 5000NW FU FEW050 BKN250 06/04 Q1034 TEMPO
4000 BR
Southampton EGHI 042050Z 00000KT 4000 FU NSC 00/M01 Q1035
Brize EGVN 042050Z 25002KT 4000 FU FEW005 BKN250 03/02 Q1034 TEMPO 3000
SCT005

The trapped aerosols likely to further aid fog formation tomorrow.

Jon.

In message , Jon O'Rourke
writes
"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
...
A decade or so ago I would have looked at the forthcoming charts showing
high pressure on the near continent with a slack southerly flow and
almost guaranteed widespread fogs. However, so far the forecasts have
hardly mentioned fog(s).

Strong indication of fairly dense fog formation over England and Wales on
Sunday night.
TAFs trending towards this, e.g. Birmingham

EGBB 041626Z 050024 26005KT 6000 FEW025 TEMPO 0013 4000 FU BR
PROB30 TEMPO 0510 1200 MIFG TEMPO 1318 9999 BECMG 1720 4000 FU
BR TEMPO 2124 0800 FG=

More is expected tonight too compared to last night, more especially in the
SW,
e.g Bristol

EGGD 041622Z 050024 27005KT 6000 NSC TEMPO 0012 3000 BR PROB30
TEMPO 0310 0600 FG PROB30 1216 9999 BECMG 1619 3000 BR PROB30
TEMPO 1924 0200 FG VV///=

Smoke haze now making an appearce in a few METARs :-

Southend EGMC 042050Z 28004KT 4000 HZ FU SKC 07/04 Q1033
Stansted EGSS 042120Z 24004KT 5000 FU SKC 05/04 Q1033
Birmingham EGBB 042050Z 23004KT 1800 R15/1200 FU NSC 07/04 Q1033
Lyneham EGDL 042050Z 23006KT 8000 5000NW FU FEW050 BKN250 06/04 Q1034 TEMPO
4000 BR
Southampton EGHI 042050Z 00000KT 4000 FU NSC 00/M01 Q1035
Brize EGVN 042050Z 25002KT 4000 FU FEW005 BKN250 03/02 Q1034 TEMPO 3000
SCT005

The trapped aerosols likely to further aid fog formation tomorrow.

Jon.

The murk has thickened to fog in Chalfont St Giles during the past hour.
Currently (2230z) around 800 metres.

Norman
(delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail)
--
Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy
Chalfont St Giles 85m a.s.l.
England

Norman Lynagh wrote:
In message , Jon O'Rourke
writes
"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
...
A decade or so ago I would have looked at the forthcoming charts showing
high pressure on the near continent with a slack southerly flow and
almost guaranteed widespread fogs. However, so far the forecasts have
hardly mentioned fog(s).

Strong indication of fairly dense fog formation over England and Wales on
Sunday night.
TAFs trending towards this, e.g. Birmingham

EGBB 041626Z 050024 26005KT 6000 FEW025 TEMPO 0013 4000 FU BR
PROB30 TEMPO 0510 1200 MIFG TEMPO 1318 9999 BECMG 1720 4000 FU
BR TEMPO 2124 0800 FG=

More is expected tonight too compared to last night, more especially
in the
SW,
e.g Bristol

EGGD 041622Z 050024 27005KT 6000 NSC TEMPO 0012 3000 BR PROB30
TEMPO 0310 0600 FG PROB30 1216 9999 BECMG 1619 3000 BR PROB30
TEMPO 1924 0200 FG VV///=

Smoke haze now making an appearce in a few METARs :-

Southend EGMC 042050Z 28004KT 4000 HZ FU SKC 07/04 Q1033
Stansted EGSS 042120Z 24004KT 5000 FU SKC 05/04 Q1033
Birmingham EGBB 042050Z 23004KT 1800 R15/1200 FU NSC 07/04 Q1033
Lyneham EGDL 042050Z 23006KT 8000 5000NW FU FEW050 BKN250 06/04 Q1034
TEMPO
4000 BR
Southampton EGHI 042050Z 00000KT 4000 FU NSC 00/M01 Q1035
Brize EGVN 042050Z 25002KT 4000 FU FEW005 BKN250 03/02 Q1034 TEMPO 3000
SCT005

The trapped aerosols likely to further aid fog formation tomorrow.

Jon.

The murk has thickened to fog in Chalfont St Giles during the past hour.
Currently (2230z) around 800 metres.

Norman
(delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail)

Ah ah, maybe my plan worked ;-)

--
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e-mail: kreh at southendweather dot net

In article , Elaine Jones says...
snip
rebuilding with scattered pubs which could not be demolished until
licences ran out (I think).

Close g

More to do with the *transfer* of the licence to the brewery's *new* and
probably not yet built pub.

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