So, if the terrorists, 'flu pandemic, global climate change or extended
credit don't get you ... get set for the 'Arctic Blast'!

http://www.express.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=696
(Makes you wonder how we survived this far don't it?)

Incidentally, it's going to be interesting to see how the 'White
Christmas' thing is going to be verified this year with the wholesale
closure of most of the old Weather Centres. As they use the nonsensical
'one flake doth a White Christmas make' rule, there going to be room for
a lot of argy-bargy when people turn up after Christmas to claim their
winnings ;-)


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OMG -14C OMG :-)

I notice our very own Ian Currie is mentioned in the article alongside Piers
Corbyn LOL.
How anyone can predict a white Christmas with any degree of confidence this far
out beggars belief.
Ian would you like to defend/explain your detailed prediction (east side of
country but obviously not the west)?

Will.
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"Martin Rowley" m wrote in
message ...
So, if the terrorists, 'flu pandemic, global climate change or extended
credit don't get you ... get set for the 'Arctic Blast'!

http://www.express.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=696
(Makes you wonder how we survived this far don't it?)

Incidentally, it's going to be interesting to see how the 'White
Christmas' thing is going to be verified this year with the wholesale
closure of most of the old Weather Centres. As they use the nonsensical
'one flake doth a White Christmas make' rule, there going to be room for
a lot of argy-bargy when people turn up after Christmas to claim their
winnings ;-)


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"Martin Rowley" m wrote in
message ...
So, if the terrorists, 'flu pandemic, global climate change or extended
credit don't get you ... get set for the 'Arctic Blast'!

http://www.express.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=696
(Makes you wonder how we survived this far don't it?)

Incidentally, it's going to be interesting to see how the 'White
Christmas' thing is going to be verified this year with the wholesale
closure of most of the old Weather Centres. As they use the nonsensical
'one flake doth a White Christmas make' rule, there going to be room for a
lot of argy-bargy when people turn up after Christmas to claim their
winnings ;-)

Well I don't quite see how else they can define it, if the weather report
for the day mentions snow, then snow it is.

As for the article, well the Daily Express, what a surprise!
You could practically take the thing apart paragraph by paragraph.

-14C in 'exposed' Highland locations? Big deal. Though if they
are talking about frost they probably mean the 'sheltered glens'
we keep hearing about on the TV forecasts.
I would suspect -14C would be around the average lowest of
the year reading for Altnaharra. If it happened in the centre of
Glasgow then that would be another matter entirely.

Frost and snow and brief cold spells in winter, whoever would
have thought it?

Oh and the last paragraph is wrong too. We are *not* the 4th
richest country in the world. We have the 4th largest *economy*.
Or at least we did have until very recently when we were
overtaken by China.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

Martin Rowley wrote:
So, if the terrorists, 'flu pandemic, global climate change or extended
credit don't get you ... get set for the 'Arctic Blast'!

http://www.express.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=696
(Makes you wonder how we survived this far don't it?)

Incidentally, it's going to be interesting to see how the 'White
Christmas' thing is going to be verified this year with the wholesale
closure of most of the old Weather Centres. As they use the nonsensical
'one flake doth a White Christmas make' rule, there going to be room for
a lot of argy-bargy when people turn up after Christmas to claim their
winnings ;-)



So it's going to get cold? It's called Winter. Why do the papers get so
worked up about it? Oh, I remember - so they can sell more papers :-/

Martin Rowley wrote:
So, if the terrorists, 'flu pandemic, global climate change or extended
credit don't get you ... get set for the 'Arctic Blast'!

http://www.express.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=696
(Makes you wonder how we survived this far don't it?)

Incidentally, it's going to be interesting to see how the 'White
Christmas' thing is going to be verified this year with the wholesale
closure of most of the old Weather Centres. As they use the nonsensical
'one flake doth a White Christmas make' rule, there going to be room for
a lot of argy-bargy when people turn up after Christmas to claim their
winnings ;-)



My only comment to this article is my usual balanced one "What a load of
C&%p!" with a capital 'C'

--
Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
e-mail: kreh at southendweather dot net

The reality is that ALL the articles in the Express, be it foreign news,
home news, politics are equally sensationalist and inaccurate - its not
just that "story".

Mind you if the MO had a spokesperson that was available for media then
this could be somewhat avoided.

brian
aberfeldy

wild today, but wilder on the mountains




Martin Rowley wrote:
So, if the terrorists, 'flu pandemic, global climate change or extended
credit don't get you ... get set for the 'Arctic Blast'!

http://www.express.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=696
(Makes you wonder how we survived this far don't it?)

Incidentally, it's going to be interesting to see how the 'White
Christmas' thing is going to be verified this year with the wholesale
closure of most of the old Weather Centres. As they use the nonsensical
'one flake doth a White Christmas make' rule, there going to be room for
a lot of argy-bargy when people turn up after Christmas to claim their
winnings ;-)

The reality is that ALL the articles in the Express, be it foreign news,
home news, politics are equally sensationalist and inaccurate - its not
just that "story".

Mind you if the MO had a spokesperson that was available for media then
this could be somewhat avoided.

brian
aberfeldy

wild today, but wilder on the mountains




Martin Rowley wrote:
So, if the terrorists, 'flu pandemic, global climate change or extended
credit don't get you ... get set for the 'Arctic Blast'!

http://www.express.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=696
(Makes you wonder how we survived this far don't it?)

Incidentally, it's going to be interesting to see how the 'White
Christmas' thing is going to be verified this year with the wholesale
closure of most of the old Weather Centres. As they use the nonsensical
'one flake doth a White Christmas make' rule, there going to be room for
a lot of argy-bargy when people turn up after Christmas to claim their
winnings ;-)

"Chris Smith" wrote in message
...
Martin Rowley wrote:
So, if the terrorists, 'flu pandemic, global climate change or extended
credit don't get you ... get set for the 'Arctic Blast'!

http://www.express.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=696
(Makes you wonder how we survived this far don't it?)

Incidentally, it's going to be interesting to see how the 'White
Christmas' thing is going to be verified this year with the wholesale
closure of most of the old Weather Centres. As they use the nonsensical
'one flake doth a White Christmas make' rule, there going to be room for
a lot of argy-bargy when people turn up after Christmas to claim their
winnings ;-)



So it's going to get cold? It's called Winter. Why do the papers get so
worked up about it? Oh, I remember - so they can sell more papers :-/

Amazing how perfectly normal winter conditions get hyped up into
something exceptional.
I am now awaiting the first person at work to come up to me and
say that we are in for a 'severe' or 'bitter' winter.
My eyes will roll heaven-ward and I will allow myself a little sigh.

I will gently probe them as to where they heard this revalation.
Of course they won't know where they heard it, let alone which
particular organisation was responsible. It's just something they
heard in the media somewhere so it *must* be true.

The general public simply don't understand that these predictions
usually don't come from the Met Office, yet they seem to treat
them as if they are something 'official'.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

"Martin Rowley" m
wrote
Incidentally, it's going to be interesting to see how the 'White
Christmas' thing is going to be verified this year with the wholesale
closure of most of the old Weather Centres. As they use the
nonsensical 'one flake doth a White Christmas make' rule, there going
to be room for a lot of argy-bargy when people turn up after
Christmas to claim their winnings ;-)

Col" wrote
Well I don't quite see how else they can define it, if the weather
report
for the day mentions snow, then snow it is.


From the William Hill site (Press Release archive)

" White Christmas Betting Now By Royal Appointment!

Bookmakers William Hill were inundated with calls from worried punters
that their yearly bet on a white Christmas would not be possible,
following the news that the London Weather Centre is now fully automated
and that the hallowed ground where one flake of snow needs to fall would
no longer be the centre piece of White Christmas betting.

But after lengthy discussions today with the Met office Hills have been
assured that advances in technology make it possible for them to provide
a result anywhere in London not just on the met office roof. As a result
Hills have moved the London snow result to Buckingham Palace and the
surrounding area for which they are presently offering 8/1."

.... perhaps they are going to get Prince Philip to look outside every
now and then to see what gives! Talk about fooling most of the people
most of the time ;-(

Martin.

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"Brian Blair" wrote in message
news
The reality is that ALL the articles in the Express, be it foreign news,
home news, politics are equally sensationalist and inaccurate - its not
just that "story".

Mind you if the MO had a spokesperson that was available for media then
this could be somewhat avoided.


If (note if) the MetO is contacted there's always a "spokesperson" available
24/7. The press office personal will normally deal with them during normal
working hours and at all other times the calls are handled by the public
weather service forecasting bench. However, this fact alone won't stop what
we've witnessed today, perhaps for some of the reasons already offered...

Jon.