There has been a lot of debate recently regarding whether Global
warming is actually taking place, or whether it is only happening in
certain regions of the World, such as North West Europe, and in
particular the British Isles.

Now much of the basis for Global Warming, although not exclusively, has
been placed on the Central England Temperature series (CET), which
clearly shows a warming trend since 1900, I would like to throw down a
challenge for others to join in and find similar temperature series for
the six (6) locations on each of the Worlds continents as listed below.
I will then create graphs from the data.

You maybe be wondering why I don't just gather the data myself, and
the simple answer is I don't know where to start looking, and
probably don't have the required authority with the relevant
organisations.

Ideally I'm looking for links to data from the following locations
since circa 1900, although similar locations with a sizeable amount of
data will suffice, as I believe these will throw substantial weight
behind whether Global Warming is, or is not taking place.

Europe
CET Series:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research...HadCET_act.txt

Iceland, Reykjavik
Russia, Moscow
Greece, Athens
Spain, Madrid
Germany, Berlin
Norway, Oslo


North America

USA, New York
USA, Oklahoma
USA, Miami
USA, Los Angeles
Canada, Vancouver
Canada, Churchill


Central & South America

Mexico, Mexico City
Colombia, Bogota
Brazil, Rio de Janeiro
Argentina, Buenos Aires
Chile, Santiago
Falkland Islands, Port Stanley


Africa

South Africa, Cape Town
Egypt, Cairo
Nigeria, Lagos
Ethiopia, Addis Ababa
Senegal, Dakar
Congo, Kinshasa


Asia

Japan, Tokyo
India, New Delhi
China, Hong Kong
UAE, Dubai
Thailand, Bangkok
Syria, Damascus


Australasia

Australia, Sydney
Australia, Perth
Australia, Darwin
Australia, Alice Springs
Australia, Melbourne
New Zealand, Wellington

This challenge will be posted on the following three sites only, I
thank anyone that contributes to this project in advance.

Google uk.sci.weather
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sci.weather?lnk=lr
Weatherchat: http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/index.php?boardid=16030
Met-Monkey: http://www.met-monkey.co.uk/weather.forum/index.php

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Ideally I'm looking for links to data from the following locations
since circa 1900, although similar locations with a sizeable amount of
data will suffice, as I believe these will throw substantial weight
behind whether Global Warming is, or is not taking place.


I can't help you with the sources of data. But I imagine that the data is
quite likely to be freely and widely available.

A good source of help for your project might be alt.global-warming. If you
haven't looked there yet you will find an endless supply of helpful and
friendly "experts" just waiting to guide you.

I think that the fact that we live in a gently warming world is not in
doubt. But the word "Challenge" from your message heading implies there is
something to be done about the warming. We should be very careful in drawing
any conclusions about the cause or eventual effects of that warming. If the
warming is mostly or entirely natural then we have no choice but to enjoy
the ride. If there is irrefutable evidence that mankind has mostly or
entirely caused the warming then we have to be careful. It is quite possible
that a political reaction to G.W. could be a greater threat to society as we
know it than the actual effects of the warming itself.

Paulus

Thanks Paulus,

The word 'Challenge' relates to the challenge of obtaining the raw
data, rather than implying that we have a challenge and responsibility
to reverse global warming.

On the subject of Global Warming, I have an open mind, and I'm
searching for raw data to draw my own conclusions.

I will check out your suggested source above, in the meantime I found
the following site which has already done some of the leg-work for me.

http://www.john-daly.com/stations/stations.htm

Needless to say, on a global scale the results are less than conclusion
either-way.

"Bonos Ego" wrote in message
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Thanks Paulus,

The word 'Challenge' relates to the challenge of obtaining the raw
data, rather than implying that we have a challenge and responsibility
to reverse global warming.

On the subject of Global Warming, I have an open mind, and I'm
searching for raw data to draw my own conclusions.

I will check out your suggested source above, in the meantime I found
the following site which has already done some of the leg-work for me.

http://www.john-daly.com/stations/stations.htm

Needless to say, on a global scale the results are less than conclusion
either-way.


It will be very interesting to see the regional or national "central
temperatures" from around the world tabulated in such a way.

Interesting also that, although the 2006 CET looks like being a new record
and much of Europe and Asia have also seen an exceptionally mild start to
winter, it looks like 2006 will "only" be 6th warmest on record globally -
start of a cooling trend? :-)

Good luck!

Paulus

On Dec 28, 9:26 pm, "Bonos Ego" wrote:
There has been a lot of debate recently regarding whether Global
warming is actually taking place, or whether it is only happening in
certain regions of the World, such as North West Europe, and in
particular the British Isles.

Now much of the basis for Global Warming, although not exclusively, has
been placed on the Central England Temperature series (CET), which
clearly shows a warming trend since 1900, I would like to throw down a
challenge for others to join in and find similar temperature series for
the six (6) locations on each of the Worlds continents as listed below.
I will then create graphs from the data.


It's already been done, and shows that the warming is indeed
global. Have a look at

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

In message . com, Tudor
Hughes writes


On Dec 28, 9:26 pm, "Bonos Ego" wrote:
There has been a lot of debate recently regarding whether Global
warming is actually taking place, or whether it is only happening in
certain regions of the World, such as North West Europe, and in
particular the British Isles.

Now much of the basis for Global Warming, although not exclusively, has
been placed on the Central England Temperature series (CET), which
clearly shows a warming trend since 1900, I would like to throw down a
challenge for others to join in and find similar temperature series for
the six (6) locations on each of the Worlds continents as listed below.
I will then create graphs from the data.


It's already been done, and shows that the warming is indeed
global. Have a look at

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.


I've always considered global warming with an open mind, not especially
critical, neither am I especially against the concept.

However currently here in, a cool part of, the generally very temperate
Isle of Man (especially winters, which tend to be very mild). This
winter so far has been non-existent, we've had the usual severe gales
but so far no frost. Our house is at about 300 feet, in a valley amongst
the hills, which tends to be a cold spot but so far I've yet to record a
below freezing temperature. In the garden all the spring bulbs are well
advanced, the primroses are in flower, as is the spring (March) gorse.
Something is going on, that is for sure, not saying I know just what
exactly but it certainly makes me think.............?

--
Alan Comish

Tudor Hughes wrote:

On Dec 28, 9:26 pm, "Bonos Ego" wrote:
There has been a lot of debate recently regarding whether Global
warming is actually taking place, or whether it is only happening in
certain regions of the World, such as North West Europe, and in
particular the British Isles.

Now much of the basis for Global Warming, although not exclusively, has
been placed on the Central England Temperature series (CET), which
clearly shows a warming trend since 1900, I would like to throw down a
challenge for others to join in and find similar temperature series for
the six (6) locations on each of the Worlds continents as listed below.
I will then create graphs from the data.


It's already been done, and shows that the warming is indeed
global. Have a look at

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

Climate Change & the Greenhouse Effect - (Hadley Centre December 2005)
is also a useful starting point, as it has a basic introduction.

(Downloadable, or I can email Bonos a copy.)

Graham
Penzance (Thoroughly windy & wet)

"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message
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On Dec 28, 9:26 pm, "Bonos Ego" wrote:
There has been a lot of debate recently regarding whether Global
warming is actually taking place, or whether it is only happening in
certain regions of the World, such as North West Europe, and in
particular the British Isles.

Now much of the basis for Global Warming, although not exclusively, has
been placed on the Central England Temperature series (CET), which
clearly shows a warming trend since 1900, I would like to throw down a
challenge for others to join in and find similar temperature series for
the six (6) locations on each of the Worlds continents as listed below.
I will then create graphs from the data.


It's already been done, and shows that the warming is indeed
global. Have a look at

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/

It's interesting though how the rate of rise has slowed markedly over
the past 5 years or so.
No doubt that has already been seized upon by the sceptics
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

"Alan Comish" wrote in message
...
below freezing temperature. In the garden all the spring bulbs are well
advanced, the primroses are in flower, as is the spring (March) gorse.
Something is going on, that is for sure, not saying I know just what
exactly but it certainly makes me think.............?
Alan Comish

Seems to be getting warmer :-) Hope it continues.
I don't fancy another *little ice age* in my lifetime,
not at the current price of gas.

Alan

Perhaps you'd do better to ignore large cities in your groups since
most of these have grown substantially in the past century or so and
you don't want your results skewed by
accumulated urban heat island effect. Also, assume that the
instrumentation was accurate and the records complete throughout the
period for the locations in question. Finding consistent climo data for
many African cities (like Kinshasa) is harder now than it was 50 years
ago.

With places like Alice Springs (was it around in 1900?) or Churchill I
would imagine the urban heat bias would remain insignificant through
the years.