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Damien February 9th 05 08:37 PM

England 0 - 0 Holland
 
I guess a spell of severe wintery weather would give everyone a boost
who
loves that sort of thing. It's bound to happen again one day. God

knows when
though as the 'bound to happen' phrase has been said by southerners

for
years now


Don't you agree with me that, on the top of all this, the simple most
annoying thing in the world is botched winter forecasts such as 2002,
2005, pictures of polar bears before Big Ben(!), etc., etc., etc..

England 0 - 0 Holland, by the way. Both teams played exceptionally
badly, and the time to oust Eriksson is upon us.

D.


Matt Hewlett February 9th 05 08:41 PM

England 0 - 0 Holland
 
I agree it is annoying when a forecast of cold and snow fails to materialise
and I agree about the polar bears/bigben thing, ive never made any secret of
the fact I hate those headlines.
It's not the forecasts or forecasters that annoy me though, it's just the
sh*t weather.
I guess the moral is to expect nothing and then you will never be
dissapointed. Either that or move to Canada :-p


"Damien" wrote in message
oups.com...
I guess a spell of severe wintery weather would give everyone a boost

who
loves that sort of thing. It's bound to happen again one day. God

knows when
though as the 'bound to happen' phrase has been said by southerners

for
years now


Don't you agree with me that, on the top of all this, the simple most
annoying thing in the world is botched winter forecasts such as 2002,
2005, pictures of polar bears before Big Ben(!), etc., etc., etc..

England 0 - 0 Holland, by the way. Both teams played exceptionally
badly, and the time to oust Eriksson is upon us.

D.




Matt Hewlett February 9th 05 08:43 PM

England 0 - 0 Holland
 
As for the football, it was rubbish and all the talk of how wright Phillips
should play in place of Beckham and yet he misses to gilt edged chances in
the first half. Good to see Sven kept with his record of weird
substitutions. Why bring those two on at the end? Only a friendly I guess


"Matt Hewlett" wrote in message
...
I agree it is annoying when a forecast of cold and snow fails to
materialise and I agree about the polar bears/bigben thing, ive never made
any secret of the fact I hate those headlines.
It's not the forecasts or forecasters that annoy me though, it's just the
sh*t weather.
I guess the moral is to expect nothing and then you will never be
dissapointed. Either that or move to Canada :-p


"Damien" wrote in message
oups.com...
I guess a spell of severe wintery weather would give everyone a boost

who
loves that sort of thing. It's bound to happen again one day. God

knows when
though as the 'bound to happen' phrase has been said by southerners

for
years now


Don't you agree with me that, on the top of all this, the simple most
annoying thing in the world is botched winter forecasts such as 2002,
2005, pictures of polar bears before Big Ben(!), etc., etc., etc..

England 0 - 0 Holland, by the way. Both teams played exceptionally
badly, and the time to oust Eriksson is upon us.

D.






Damien February 9th 05 08:51 PM

England 0 - 0 Holland
 
It's not the forecasts or forecasters that annoy me though, it's just
the
sh*t weather.


To me, forecasting a winter like 2002 TO SMALL CHILDREN, and then NOT
even REMOTELY bothering to apologise when it all goes truly belly-up,
is more than enough to drive a sane, competent, amicable, social person
like me to the end of his tether.

Everything was fine on the forum. I was getting on well with both
admins and general users. Then I decided to make a run for an apology,
and, some fifteen minutes later, I was banned!:-o :-(

I guess the moral is to expect nothing and then you will never be
dissapointed.


If only I had any idea that the winter 2002 forecasts were issued by
fresh-faced young men, based on university textbooks and unproved, more
fringeline theories. If only....:-(

D.


Damien February 9th 05 08:55 PM

England 0 - 0 Holland
 
As for the football, it was rubbish and all the talk of how wright
Phillips
should play in place of Beckham and yet he misses to gilt edged

chances in
the first half.


Beckham is a tired has-been anyway, and he should go while he has a
shred of dignity left.

His performance in Portugal last summer was truly dire.:-(

Good to see Sven kept with his record of weird
substitutions. Why bring those two on at the end? Only a friendly I

guess

Yep.

This sort of thing is a risky business. I recall Hoddle playing by the
same card in Euro 96, and that ended in disaster, likewise!:-o :-(

D.


Matt Hewlett February 9th 05 09:02 PM

England 0 - 0 Holland
 
Well, I guess it could be argued that winter isn't over yet. I'm not
fighting Brian Gazes corner, he's more than capable of doing that himself,
but I will say that he is always the first to hold his hand up and admit he
got it wrong, when a forecast goes tits up.


"Damien" wrote in message
oups.com...
It's not the forecasts or forecasters that annoy me though, it's just

the
sh*t weather.


To me, forecasting a winter like 2002 TO SMALL CHILDREN, and then NOT
even REMOTELY bothering to apologise when it all goes truly belly-up,
is more than enough to drive a sane, competent, amicable, social person
like me to the end of his tether.

Everything was fine on the forum. I was getting on well with both
admins and general users. Then I decided to make a run for an apology,
and, some fifteen minutes later, I was banned!:-o :-(

I guess the moral is to expect nothing and then you will never be
dissapointed.


If only I had any idea that the winter 2002 forecasts were issued by
fresh-faced young men, based on university textbooks and unproved, more
fringeline theories. If only....:-(

D.




Damien February 9th 05 09:20 PM

England 0 - 0 Holland
 
Well, I guess it could be argued that winter isn't over yet. I'm not
fighting Brian Gazes corner, he's more than capable of doing that

himself,
but I will say that he is always the first to hold his hand up and

admit he
got it wrong, when a forecast goes tits up.


Let me just say that, as is now, hopefully, anyway, widely known, I
have made PEACE with Brian Gaze via e-mail over those events now.
However, that said, I will say this, anyway:
1. There was NO apology - certainly there was nothing direct - on the
front page of The Weather Outlook website anytime AFTER that 2002
winter, and, till this day, there has not been one PUBLIC message of
direct apology for that winter. HOWEVER, I say again, I HAVE
straightened this out now with Brian via e-mail, and we have - I hope!
- a mutual understanding for each other.
2. In the winter of 2002, Brian - AND OTHERS(!) - kept on saying that
"it will come cold next week" and "it will come cold next week", only
for NOTHING to EVER happen!:-( :-( At least NOW, the kettle of fish is
very much different.:-)
3. I know NOW what I did NOT KNOW before, and, although this does not
*really* apply to Brian or The Weather Outlook, my awareness was that
the 2002 winter forecasts were really the EXPERT VERIFICATION of MY
DREAMS(!) once again about to come true. This was as, obviously quite
starkly, opposed to a set of exceptionally poorly-organised forecasts
by the likes of Tom "campus kid" Presutti and Gavin "I truly believed"
Partridge, not to mention badger "I forecast cold weather EVERY
winter", and the less said about Gary Sarre, the better.:-(

I am not the guy that I have been demonised as. Nor is Matty H, as, I
can see from here, you, like the other admins on TWO who I am in touch
with, are sensible, rational, decent-minded people, who do a good job.

I hope that one day the negotiations as to my return to The Weather
Outlook discussion forums can begin. It was allowed with Codge, except
that I, contrary to the incessant lies of Justin Williams', am most
certainly NOT Codge. Furthermore, as late last year has proved, not to
mention *some* of my posts on this particular forum now, I am also
indeed capable of engaging in sensible, rational, logical, coherent,
decent-minded weather and climatological discussion.

D.


Damien February 9th 05 09:25 PM

England 0 - 0 Holland
 
Well, I guess it could be argued that winter isn't over yet. I'm not
fighting Brian Gazes corner, he's more than capable of doing that

himself,
but I will say that he is always the first to hold his hand up and

admit he
got it wrong, when a forecast goes tits up.


Let me just say that, as is now, hopefully, anyway, widely known, I
have made PEACE with Brian Gaze via e-mail over those events now.
However, that said, I will say this, anyway:
1. There was NO apology - certainly there was nothing direct - on the
front page of The Weather Outlook website anytime AFTER that 2002
winter, and, till this day, there has not been one PUBLIC message of
direct apology for that winter. HOWEVER, I say again, I HAVE
straightened this out now with Brian via e-mail, and we have - I hope!
- a mutual understanding for each other.
2. In the winter of 2002, Brian - AND OTHERS(!) - kept on saying that
"it will come cold next week" and "it will come cold next week", only
for NOTHING to EVER happen!:-( :-( At least NOW, the kettle of fish is
very much different.:-)
3. I know NOW what I did NOT KNOW before, and, although this does not
*really* apply to Brian or The Weather Outlook, my awareness was that
the 2002 winter forecasts were really the EXPERT VERIFICATION of MY
DREAMS(!) once again about to come true. This was as, obviously quite
starkly, opposed to a set of exceptionally poorly-organised forecasts
by the likes of Tom "campus kid" Presutti and Gavin "I truly believed"
Partridge, not to mention badger "I forecast cold weather EVERY
winter", and the less said about Gary Sarre, the better.:-(

I am not the guy that I have been demonised as. Nor is Matty H, as, I
can see from here, you, like the other admins on TWO who I am in touch
with, are sensible, rational, decent-minded people, who do a good job.

I hope that one day the negotiations as to my return to The Weather
Outlook discussion forums can begin. It was allowed with Codge, except
that I, contrary to the incessant lies of Justin Williams, am most
certainly NOT Codge. Furthermore, as late last year has proved, not to
mention *some* of my posts on this particular forum now, I am also
indeed capable of engaging in sensible, rational, logical, coherent,
decent-minded weather and climatological discussion.

D.


Matt Hewlett February 9th 05 10:24 PM

England 0 - 0 Holland
 
The thing is, there are many people out there doing forecasts. You have the
respected ones, the likes of Brian Gaze, Andrew Bond, the Met Office, who
all do a long range forecast.

You have respected short to mid range forecasters such as Will Hand, Paul
Bartlett to name but two and I personally think expecting apologies off
anyone for a forecast based on their own opinions through model
interpretations, is asking a bit much. An acknowledgement of error yes, but
not an apology.
The MetO would be aplogising on a weekly basis if their countryfile forecast
were taken as gospel :)

"Damien" wrote in message
oups.com...
Well, I guess it could be argued that winter isn't over yet. I'm not
fighting Brian Gazes corner, he's more than capable of doing that

himself,
but I will say that he is always the first to hold his hand up and

admit he
got it wrong, when a forecast goes tits up.


Let me just say that, as is now, hopefully, anyway, widely known, I
have made PEACE with Brian Gaze via e-mail over those events now.
However, that said, I will say this, anyway:
1. There was NO apology - certainly there was nothing direct - on the
front page of The Weather Outlook website anytime AFTER that 2002
winter, and, till this day, there has not been one PUBLIC message of
direct apology for that winter. HOWEVER, I say again, I HAVE
straightened this out now with Brian via e-mail, and we have - I hope!
- a mutual understanding for each other.
2. In the winter of 2002, Brian - AND OTHERS(!) - kept on saying that
"it will come cold next week" and "it will come cold next week", only
for NOTHING to EVER happen!:-( :-( At least NOW, the kettle of fish is
very much different.:-)
3. I know NOW what I did NOT KNOW before, and, although this does not
*really* apply to Brian or The Weather Outlook, my awareness was that
the 2002 winter forecasts were really the EXPERT VERIFICATION of MY
DREAMS(!) once again about to come true. This was as, obviously quite
starkly, opposed to a set of exceptionally poorly-organised forecasts
by the likes of Tom "campus kid" Presutti and Gavin "I truly believed"
Partridge, not to mention badger "I forecast cold weather EVERY
winter", and the less said about Gary Sarre, the better.:-(

I am not the guy that I have been demonised as. Nor is Matty H, as, I
can see from here, you, like the other admins on TWO who I am in touch
with, are sensible, rational, decent-minded people, who do a good job.

I hope that one day the negotiations as to my return to The Weather
Outlook discussion forums can begin. It was allowed with Codge, except
that I, contrary to the incessant lies of Justin Williams, am most
certainly NOT Codge. Furthermore, as late last year has proved, not to
mention *some* of my posts on this particular forum now, I am also
indeed capable of engaging in sensible, rational, logical, coherent,
decent-minded weather and climatological discussion.

D.




Damien February 9th 05 10:42 PM

dreams vs. reality
 
You have respected short to mid range forecasters such as Will Hand,
Paul
Bartlett to name but two


Paul Bartlett is "short to mid range" forecasting?:-o He wrote the
winter of 2005 - this current one - off in February, 2004!:-o

and I personally think expecting apologies off
anyone for a forecast based on their own opinions through model
interpretations, is asking a bit much. An acknowledgement of error

yes

This would suffice, but, and again I am sorry if he is reading this,
this did not happen on The Weather Outlook after the "winter" of 2002,
although Tom Presutti and Gavin Partridge *did*, I recall, emit *some*
kind of "acknowledgement of error" on the website forum. However, I can
never recall this appearing on certainly Tom Presutti's website.:-o :-(
Tom says that he has issued BOTH "an acknowledgement of error" AND an
apology, and I now, KINDLY, of course:-), call on him to help me to
verify this, but so far there is no sign of him and his co-operation.
Gavin though remains as stubborn as a mule about absolutely
everything.:-(

, but
not an apology.


Compare the forecasted:
-"a repeat of 1947",
with the eventual, poignant reality:
-the mildest winter since 1998!:-o :-(

The MetO would be aplogising on a weekly basis if their countryfile

forecast
were taken as gospel :)


LOL!

You do have a point there. However, note my comments just about the
winter of 2002.

D.


Matt Hewlett February 9th 05 10:43 PM

anyone else been banned from TWO FORUMS
 
Actually Will, looking back I may have taken your post somewhat out of
context? Hope so anyway but the lack of smilies on this stupid newsgroup
doesnt help matters. I like to think that we have had decent, if rare
contact since we had our row and whilst I may sometimes disagree with your
comments, I don't recall seeing any that were abusive at all, as you
suggest.

Just to reiterate though, you were not nearly banned.

Some people seem to think I make the banning decisions on TWO. I don't. They
are a team decision, I just tend to be more vocal than some of my more
refined colleagues, who have the sense to keep a low profile usually :-p

The derogatory comments on here about TWO mean nothing to us anyway. It's
always the same people, with the same tired old arguments. The forum is
strong and succesfull and whilst I can understand that some of the threads
or comments on there are not to your taste, your input on there is looked
out for i'm sure.

Anway, back to the job of co-demon, banning more poor undeserving members
from the hell hole of TWO ------ sarcasm ;-)


"Will Hand" wrote in message
...

"Col" wrote in message
...

"Rupert" wrote in message
oups.com...
Quote"Can you list this particular forums terms and conditions?.

As far as i know you must kiss the a**** of the mods!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That shows how little you know.
This is an unmoderated newsgroup.

What makes you think people here want to read about the petty
squabbles happening on another forum?

Col
--


Col, most seem to be people who have been banned from TWO forum for some
reason
and hence have big axes to grind.

About a year ago I nearly got banned myself :-O for argueing
(scientifically)
with "big Matty H" (he likes that description :-)). Problem for the mods
was
that my arguments were slowly winning people over and there was a danger
that
the group could split. But to be honest, life is too short and I just
didn't
have the energy or the time to keep up the discussion. Matt and I had an
e-mail
discussion and we resolved our differences in an adult way. I must also
say that
at no stage did I personally insult or threaten anyone, I would never
stoop
*that* low.

Off to watch the footie now, bring on the Dutch ... he he he

Cheers,

Will.
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Matt Hewlett February 9th 05 10:44 PM

dreams vs. reality
 
I didn't think Paul Bartlett issued a winter forecast this time? Willing to
be proved wrong of course....


"Damien" wrote in message
oups.com...
You have respected short to mid range forecasters such as Will Hand,

Paul
Bartlett to name but two


Paul Bartlett is "short to mid range" forecasting?:-o He wrote the
winter of 2005 - this current one - off in February, 2004!:-o

and I personally think expecting apologies off
anyone for a forecast based on their own opinions through model
interpretations, is asking a bit much. An acknowledgement of error

yes

This would suffice, but, and again I am sorry if he is reading this,
this did not happen on The Weather Outlook after the "winter" of 2002,
although Tom Presutti and Gavin Partridge *did*, I recall, emit *some*
kind of "acknowledgement of error" on the website forum. However, I can
never recall this appearing on certainly Tom Presutti's website.:-o :-(
Tom says that he has issued BOTH "an acknowledgement of error" AND an
apology, and I now, KINDLY, of course:-), call on him to help me to
verify this, but so far there is no sign of him and his co-operation.
Gavin though remains as stubborn as a mule about absolutely
everything.:-(

, but
not an apology.


Compare the forecasted:
-"a repeat of 1947",
with the eventual, poignant reality:
-the mildest winter since 1998!:-o :-(

The MetO would be aplogising on a weekly basis if their countryfile

forecast
were taken as gospel :)


LOL!

You do have a point there. However, note my comments just about the
winter of 2002.

D.




Damien February 9th 05 10:58 PM

dreams vs. reality
 
I didn't think Paul Bartlett issued a winter forecast this time?
Willing to
be proved wrong of course...


He issued his official 2005 winter forecast back in February, 2004!:-o

Brian Gaze has even made a massive thread about it!:-o

However, this year he is actually very much undecided to as just what
exactly the coming 2006 winter will bring.;-)

If we are to believe Ian Currie's super long-ranger, though, then the
next winter of 2006 should have a COLD, and even snowy, start. Then
again, so was his February 2005.:-(

D.


Damien February 9th 05 11:02 PM

anyone else been banned from TWO FORUMS
 
Hope so anyway but the lack of smilies on this stupid newsgroup
doesnt help matters.


:-o

You don't like it when people cuss your forum, so don't cuss ours.:-p
;-)

D.


Matt Hewlett February 9th 05 11:03 PM

dreams vs. reality
 
Well, to try and forecast a season a year away is sheer folly in my opinion.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be attempted, but I am saying that any success
with a forecast at that range can be attributed to luck rather than any
scientific basis.

One day it may be scientifically possible (personally I doubt it) but until
that day, luck will always be a huge part of LRFs of that range

"Damien" wrote in message
ups.com...
I didn't think Paul Bartlett issued a winter forecast this time?

Willing to
be proved wrong of course...


He issued his official 2005 winter forecast back in February, 2004!:-o

Brian Gaze has even made a massive thread about it!:-o

However, this year he is actually very much undecided to as just what
exactly the coming 2006 winter will bring.;-)

If we are to believe Ian Currie's super long-ranger, though, then the
next winter of 2006 should have a COLD, and even snowy, start. Then
again, so was his February 2005.:-(

D.




Matt Hewlett February 9th 05 11:04 PM

anyone else been banned from TWO FORUMS
 
This isn't a forum, it's newsgroup ;-)

Pedantic mode off.......... :-p


"Damien" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hope so anyway but the lack of smilies on this stupid newsgroup
doesnt help matters.


:-o

You don't like it when people cuss your forum, so don't cuss ours.:-p
;-)

D.




lawrence Jenkins February 9th 05 11:35 PM

anyone else been banned from TWO FORUMS
 

"Matt Hewlett" wrote in message
...
I thought you were above the usual idiots Will. 'big Matty H'?? Where did
you get that from then? Don't believe ive ever been called that by anyone
other than people that actually know me and have met me.
As for banned. Your account is active. You are not banned at all. I
remember our argument now you mention it. Although I have moved on. I
guess my not agreeing with your easterly that never happened has soured
your opinion again?
Like I say, ive no axe to grind with you what so ever. No reason to. The
only axes I have to grind on here with anyone are being done through the
legal proceedure :)




Well I haven't read the following post but this remark alone is the crux of
the issue

"The only axes I have to grind on here with anyone are being done through
the
legal proceedure :) "

Legal procedure! For what ? That just about sums you and your ilk up. That
is pathetic, cowardly and defies two hundred years of free speech.


GET THIS VERY CLEAR, YOU ARE A MODERATOR/TRAFFICKWARDEN ON A "QUACK, LYING ,
TWO-BIT FORECASTING AGENCY. THAT HAS YET TO GET A LRF CORRECT IN IT'S VERY
SHORT MISERABLE EXISTENCE.

As for that stupid.........remark about Will

"Your account is active. You are not banned at all"

Are you that twisted that you failed to read what Will actually wrote?

"About a year ago I nearly got banned myself "

He never said he was banned! You stupid front for a lie mongering
organisation.

Someone remarked to me recently that you were a mediocre beaurocrat
Yet I defended you "Big boy Matty". I replied that you, had yet to achieve
mediocrity. So you owe me in a strange convoluted sort of way :-)

















lawrence Jenkins February 9th 05 11:37 PM

England 0 - 0 Holland
 

"Damien" wrote in message
oups.com...
I guess a spell of severe wintery weather would give everyone a boost

who
loves that sort of thing. It's bound to happen again one day. God

knows when
though as the 'bound to happen' phrase has been said by southerners

for
years now


Don't you agree with me that, on the top of all this, the simple most
annoying thing in the world is botched winter forecasts such as 2002,
2005, pictures of polar bears before Big Ben(!), etc., etc., etc..

England 0 - 0 Holland, by the way. Both teams played exceptionally
badly, and the time to oust Eriksson is upon us.

D.


Absolutely. Eriksson is almost as mediocre as big boy matty.



lawrence Jenkins February 9th 05 11:40 PM

England 0 - 0 Holland
 

"Matt Hewlett" wrote in message
...
Well, I guess it could be argued that winter isn't over yet. I'm not
fighting Brian Gazes corner, he's more than capable of doing that himself,
but I will say that he is always the first to hold his hand up and admit
he got it wrong, when a forecast goes tits up.


Well you traffic warden, rise up and admit the man is a snake-oil saleman.
No you won't becuase you have a percieved vision of self importance.

I vos only obeying orders.....



lawrence Jenkins February 9th 05 11:43 PM

England 0 - 0 Holland
 

"Matt Hewlett" wrote in message
...
The thing is, there are many people out there doing forecasts. You have
the respected ones, the likes of Brian Gaze, Andrew Bond,


Nurse, nurse! call security another ones escaped.



lawrence Jenkins February 9th 05 11:44 PM

England 0 - 0 Holland
 
You thick **** . Paul and Will's forecast are invariably correct, just like
Dazed and Wands.
"Matt Hewlett" wrote in message
...
The thing is, there are many people out there doing forecasts. You have
the respected ones, the likes of Brian Gaze, Andrew Bond, the Met Office,
who all do a long range forecast.

You have respected short to mid range forecasters such as Will Hand, Paul
Bartlett to name but two and I personally think expecting apologies off
anyone for a forecast based on their own opinions through model
interpretations, is asking a bit much. An acknowledgement of error yes,
but not an apology.
The MetO would be aplogising on a weekly basis if their countryfile
forecast were taken as gospel :)

"Damien" wrote in message
oups.com...
Well, I guess it could be argued that winter isn't over yet. I'm not
fighting Brian Gazes corner, he's more than capable of doing that

himself,
but I will say that he is always the first to hold his hand up and

admit he
got it wrong, when a forecast goes tits up.


Let me just say that, as is now, hopefully, anyway, widely known, I
have made PEACE with Brian Gaze via e-mail over those events now.
However, that said, I will say this, anyway:
1. There was NO apology - certainly there was nothing direct - on the
front page of The Weather Outlook website anytime AFTER that 2002
winter, and, till this day, there has not been one PUBLIC message of
direct apology for that winter. HOWEVER, I say again, I HAVE
straightened this out now with Brian via e-mail, and we have - I hope!
- a mutual understanding for each other.
2. In the winter of 2002, Brian - AND OTHERS(!) - kept on saying that
"it will come cold next week" and "it will come cold next week", only
for NOTHING to EVER happen!:-( :-( At least NOW, the kettle of fish is
very much different.:-)
3. I know NOW what I did NOT KNOW before, and, although this does not
*really* apply to Brian or The Weather Outlook, my awareness was that
the 2002 winter forecasts were really the EXPERT VERIFICATION of MY
DREAMS(!) once again about to come true. This was as, obviously quite
starkly, opposed to a set of exceptionally poorly-organised forecasts
by the likes of Tom "campus kid" Presutti and Gavin "I truly believed"
Partridge, not to mention badger "I forecast cold weather EVERY
winter", and the less said about Gary Sarre, the better.:-(

I am not the guy that I have been demonised as. Nor is Matty H, as, I
can see from here, you, like the other admins on TWO who I am in touch
with, are sensible, rational, decent-minded people, who do a good job.

I hope that one day the negotiations as to my return to The Weather
Outlook discussion forums can begin. It was allowed with Codge, except
that I, contrary to the incessant lies of Justin Williams, am most
certainly NOT Codge. Furthermore, as late last year has proved, not to
mention *some* of my posts on this particular forum now, I am also
indeed capable of engaging in sensible, rational, logical, coherent,
decent-minded weather and climatological discussion.

D.






lawrence Jenkins February 9th 05 11:46 PM

dreams vs. reality
 
If you believe that, why do you moderate a forum that supports a individual
who claims the opposite of what you apperently believe?




"Matt Hewlett" wrote in message
...
Well, to try and forecast a season a year away is sheer folly in my
opinion. I'm not saying it shouldn't be attempted, but I am saying that
any success with a forecast at that range can be attributed to luck rather
than any scientific basis.

One day it may be scientifically possible (personally I doubt it) but
until that day, luck will always be a huge part of LRFs of that range

"Damien" wrote in message
ups.com...
I didn't think Paul Bartlett issued a winter forecast this time?

Willing to
be proved wrong of course...


He issued his official 2005 winter forecast back in February, 2004!:-o

Brian Gaze has even made a massive thread about it!:-o

However, this year he is actually very much undecided to as just what
exactly the coming 2006 winter will bring.;-)

If we are to believe Ian Currie's super long-ranger, though, then the
next winter of 2006 should have a COLD, and even snowy, start. Then
again, so was his February 2005.:-(

D.






lawrence Jenkins February 9th 05 11:49 PM

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"Matt Hewlett" wrote in message
...
Actually Will, looking back I may have taken your post somewhat out of
context? Hope so anyway but the lack of smilies on this stupid newsgroup
doesnt help matters.


So that's why people are banned, imprper use of smilies :-) :-) :-) There
there there you Sonder commando



lawrence Jenkins February 9th 05 11:52 PM

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Yea and unlike your corrupt pack of lies there is actually free speech here.
If this thread had been on TWO there would have been several bans imposed by
now . Go check the yellow lines.




"Matt Hewlett" wrote in message
...
This isn't a forum, it's newsgroup ;-)

Pedantic mode off.......... :-p


"Damien" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hope so anyway but the lack of smilies on this stupid newsgroup
doesnt help matters.


:-o

You don't like it when people cuss your forum, so don't cuss ours.:-p
;-)

D.






Damien February 9th 05 11:58 PM

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Save it for the police, Jenkins.:-D

In case you don't know, Andrew Bond has reported you for your threat
against him.

I once had to do the same on another forum, when I was warned of
"someone coming round yours and blowing your head off with a sawn-off
shotgun", TWICE. It's NOT nice, and he has my full backing.

D.


Matt Hewlett February 10th 05 06:51 AM

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I would have thought once would do the trick? :D


"Damien" wrote in message
oups.com...
Save it for the police, Jenkins.:-D

In case you don't know, Andrew Bond has reported you for your threat
against him.

I once had to do the same on another forum, when I was warned of
"someone coming round yours and blowing your head off with a sawn-off
shotgun", TWICE. It's NOT nice, and he has my full backing.

D.




Rob Overfield February 10th 05 08:29 AM

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Plus it would have wasted a good bullet that could be better used elsewhere.
Damien, you are not welcome in this ng with your anti-capitalist crap. If
you can't realise that no-one will defend you, no one will support you, and
you can't take the most blatant of hints, then perhaps you were right to be
excluded from "The other place".

PS Can you show evidence of Mr Bond actually reporting Lawrence to the
police? Hmmm second thoughts, don't bother. I think we should start an
anti-pollution drive, and you're the first target.

(Andrew if you're reading this perhaps you would like to confirm or deny
this statement of Beddy-bye).


Matt Hewlett wrote:
I would have thought once would do the trick? :D


"Damien" wrote in message
oups.com...
Save it for the police, Jenkins.:-D

In case you don't know, Andrew Bond has reported you for your threat
against him.

I once had to do the same on another forum, when I was warned of
"someone coming round yours and blowing your head off with a sawn-off
shotgun", TWICE. It's NOT nice, and he has my full backing.

D.




Henley Leigh-Dooblervey February 10th 05 10:10 AM

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lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"Matt Hewlett" wrote in message
...
Actually Will, looking back I may have taken your post somewhat out

of
context? Hope so anyway but the lack of smilies on this stupid

newsgroup
doesnt help matters.


So that's why people are banned, imprper use of smilies :-) :-) :-)



There there there you Sonder commando


That'd be Sonderkommando. Been watching BBC2's recent series, have we?

But that's beside the point. Far be it for me to criticise the
much-respected weather forecaster, Will, his claims of being 'nearly
banned' from TWO are way off the mark.

Trolling scrotes get banned. Will is clearly not one of those, indeed
his reputation on TWO is massive and he's as well respected there as he
is here. His input and vast knowledge is always welcome - even when his
opinion is opposite to that of some members/mods.

It's clear to me that the mythical reputation of TWO as nothing but a
non-thinking, yes-man forum has a life of its own.


Damien February 10th 05 01:27 PM

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Plus it would have wasted a good bullet that could be better used
elsewhere.

Question: when is a death threat not a death threat?

Answer: when it's the above.:-(

I will at least *try* to *pretend* that you never said that.

Damien, you are not welcome in this ng with your anti-capitalist

crap.

Some HALF A BILLION+(!) of my COUNTRYMEN DIED because of crapitalism!

If you want to continue your decadent, submisison to the ruling
classes, Blue boy, then FINE!:-( We have a NATION - let alone an
ENTIRE BLOC - to reclaim!:-o :-(

If
you can't realise that no-one will defend you, no one will support

you, and
you can't take the most blatant of hints, then perhaps you were right

to be
excluded from "The other place".


1. I did have defenders,
2. I did have supporters,
3. I could "take the most blatant of hints",
4. I was WRONG to be banned "from 'The other place'".:-(

I was banned for bothering a homosexual-capitalist user.

Don't talk about things that you don't know about!:-o :-( :-(

PS Can you show evidence of Mr Bond actually reporting Lawrence to

the
police? Hmmm second thoughts, don't bother.

Fine. I posted the link somewhere else, anyway. Just saw it about five
minutes ago.

I think we should start an

anti-pollution drive, and you're the first target.

As above:

Question: when is a death threat not a death threat?

Answer: when it's the above.:-(

I will at least *try* to *pretend* that you never said that.

(Andrew if you're reading this perhaps you would like to confirm or

deny
this statement of Beddy-bye).


GROW UP, TROLLER!:-o :-( :-(

D.


lawrence Jenkins February 10th 05 04:48 PM

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"Rob Overfield" wrote in message
...
Plus it would have wasted a good bullet that could be better used
elsewhere.
Damien, you are not welcome in this ng with your anti-capitalist crap. If
you can't realise that no-one will defend you, no one will support you,
and
you can't take the most blatant of hints, then perhaps you were right to
be
excluded from "The other place".

PS Can you show evidence of Mr Bond actually reporting Lawrence to the
police? Hmmm second thoughts, don't bother. I think we should start an
anti-pollution drive, and you're the first target.

(Andrew if you're reading this perhaps you would like to confirm or deny
this statement of Beddy-bye).


Matt Hewlett wrote:
I would have thought once would do the trick? :D


"Damien" wrote in message
oups.com...
Save it for the police, Jenkins.:-D

In case you don't know, Andrew Bond has reported you for your threat
against him.

I once had to do the same on another forum, when I was warned of
"someone coming round yours and blowing your head off with a sawn-off
shotgun", TWICE. It's NOT nice, and he has my full backing.

D.


So that's what Damien is on about. Bondai has reported me to the police for
apparent death threats? . All in the fanciful mad mad world of Damien. Who
is the real person behind the fake persona? The man who is trying to steal
our News group.



lawrence Jenkins February 10th 05 04:51 PM

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"Henley Leigh-Dooblervey" wrote in message
oups.com...

lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"Matt Hewlett" wrote in message
...
Actually Will, looking back I may have taken your post somewhat out

of
context? Hope so anyway but the lack of smilies on this stupid

newsgroup
doesnt help matters.


So that's why people are banned, imprper use of smilies :-) :-) :-)



There there there you Sonder commando


That'd be Sonderkommando. Been watching BBC2's recent series, have we?


Henry, I knew about the role of the Sonderkommando many many years ago. The
fact I spelt the name incorrectly was down to laziness x tiredness .



Damien February 10th 05 05:31 PM

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So that's what Damien is on about. Bondai has reported me to the
police for
apparent death threats? .


OBVIOUS, most JUVENILE threats.

All in the fanciful mad mad world of Damien.


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/wea...TOPIC_ID=34933

Who
is the real person behind the fake persona? The man who is trying to

steal
our News group.


WTF is this supposed to mean?:-(

D.


Rob Overfield February 10th 05 06:59 PM

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lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"Rob Overfield" wrote in message
...
Plus it would have wasted a good bullet that could be better used
elsewhere.
Damien, you are not welcome in this ng with your anti-capitalist
crap. If you can't realise that no-one will defend you, no one will
support you, and
you can't take the most blatant of hints, then perhaps you were
right to be
excluded from "The other place".

PS Can you show evidence of Mr Bond actually reporting Lawrence to
the police? Hmmm second thoughts, don't bother. I think we should
start an anti-pollution drive, and you're the first target.

(Andrew if you're reading this perhaps you would like to confirm or
deny this statement of Beddy-bye).


So that's what Damien is on about. Bondai has reported me to the
police for apparent death threats? . All in the fanciful mad mad
world of Damien. Who is the real person behind the fake persona? The
man who is trying to steal our News group.


Ah-ah, he's ALLEGEDLY reported you, Lawrence. I don't think it ever
happened. But until Mr Bond wanders this way and corroborates it, I
wouldn't worry too much.
--
Rob Overfield
Hull
http://www.astrosport02.karoo.net/YorkshireWeather/




Jack Harrison February 11th 05 08:10 PM

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"Rupert" wrote

Must laugh,found myself banned


.........and as a result, we now have 2 million follow up posts.

I saw the number of replies to a "non-event" and ignored in toto.

Please. Is TWO really worth this level of publicity?

Jack



lawrence Jenkins February 11th 05 09:11 PM

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"Jack Harrison" wrote in message
...

"Rupert" wrote

Must laugh,found myself banned


........and as a result, we now have 2 million follow up posts.

I saw the number of replies to a "non-event" and ignored in toto.

Please. Is TWO really worth this level of publicity?

Jack

Jack you don't understand...I still hurt. Does nobody feel my pain? or care
come to think of it.



Damien February 11th 05 09:12 PM

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........and as a result, we now have 2 million follow up posts

73 to be exact!:-o :-p

D.


Damien February 11th 05 09:18 PM

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I still hurt. Does nobody feel my pain? or care
come to think of it.


What "PAIN"!?:-(

You are here and here for just ONE reason only... TO HIJACK MY
CAUSE!:-( :-( :-(

D.


[email protected] February 11th 05 10:11 PM

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lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"Matt Hewlett" wrote in message
...
Cracking thread this :))))) Any publicity is good as they say

:))))))


Why would an independent weather forum need publicity?


I have had some ups and downs with Two too :-)
I got a bit ****ed off a few years ago when they first started locking
posts if there was a hint of anything being duplicated from a previous
post. There are some good people on the site that i passed observations
to last year when we got a covering of snow. There are a few who who
give the impression that your not welcome on the site.So i have got the
message and kept off.


Damien February 11th 05 10:19 PM

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I have had some ups and downs with Two too :-)

There are a few who who
give the impression that your not welcome on the site.So i have got

the
message and kept off.


Why? What was your username?

D.



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