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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/6264931.stm

I read this on the BBC News Website this morning and I am confused as
to whether its a case of the media getting the wrong end of the stick,
the media being spun again ... or an accurate description of a
worthwhile study, or a waste of time and money. I am personally not
suprised that that there has been less snow in the 14 years...ummm ...
we have had some mild winters in that period, but it appears on the
face of it a pointless study.

I think anyone living in the Snowdonia area could have come up with
the following gem of a quote...

"We've been recording the snowline on the mountain for the last 14
years and over that time we've seen a distinct downward trend in the
snow cover - not only in the height at which the snow is occurring but
also in the season.

For example, this year both September and October were free of snow so
the season is getting shorter and the amount of snow cover on Snowdon
is declining as well.

We're linking that to the change in temperature, the rising
temperature."

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In article .com,
writes:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/6264931.stm
snip

I think anyone living in the Snowdonia area could have come up with
the following gem of a quote...

"We've been recording the snowline on the mountain for the last 14
years and over that time we've seen a distinct downward trend in the
snow cover - not only in the height at which the snow is occurring but
also in the season.


And some of them might even have realised that if they were talking
about the height of the snowline it would be more correct to talk of an
upward trend.
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On Jan 17, 2:06 pm, wrote:
For example, this year both September and October were free of snow so
the season is getting shorter and the amount of snow cover on Snowdon
is declining as well.

We're linking that to the change in temperature, the rising
temperature."

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JGW North Wales


Well, well, linking a decreasing snow cover to a rise in
temeprature. Now THAT is the cutting edge, let me tell you. I suspect
an attempt to get Bangor University into the news, and obviously a
successful one, but the 15-yr extrapolation is nothing short of
brainless.
What will they call Snowdon when it's snowless? Even the
Welsh name, Yr Wyddfa, meaning "the wilderness, or wildness",
approximately, will no longer be appropriate. I studied at Bangor
1960-63 BTW

Tudor Hughes

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What will they call Snowdon when it's snowless? Even the
Welsh name, Yr Wyddfa, meaning "the wilderness, or wildness",


Done, presumably.


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In uk.sci.weather on Wed, 17 Jan 2007, John Hall
wrote :

"We've been recording the snowline on the mountain for the last 14
years and over that time we've seen a distinct downward trend in the
snow cover - not only in the height at which the snow is occurring but
also in the season.


And some of them might even have realised that if they were talking
about the height of the snowline it would be more correct to talk of an
upward trend.


Besides, AIUI there is no permanent snowline in the UK.

IIRC it's supposed to be at around 5500ft, and no UK mountain is that
high.
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Has anyone noticed this gem from the article (a journalistic error I
hope!)

"Countryside Council of Wales experts have created images using 3D
computer modelling software of what Snowdon could look like without its
snow. "

We have a pretty good idea of that already!

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In article . com,
Tudor Hughes writes:
What will they call Snowdon when it's snowless?


Snowdoff?
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Quoting from message
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posted on 18 Jan 2007 by Tudor Hughes
I would like to add:


What will they call Snowdon when it's snowless?


Eryri.

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On Jan 18, 9:45 pm, Elaine Jones wrote:
Quoting from message
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posted on 18 Jan 2007 by Tudor Hughes
I would like to add:

What will they call Snowdon when it's snowless?Eryri.


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Surely not, because Eryri means Snowdonia, the whole area.

Tudor Hughes.



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