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Tons expected in the Alps next few days. Probably too much LOL.
Snowy charts in Britain too, especially in west and north, but promises for the
SE too.
Interesting few days ahead.
High still showing signs of toppling but UKMO reluctant and in any event cold
air hangs on at low levels in the south and east.
Temperature here in Haytor is now +6.3 deg C at 0845 and I fully expect that to
continue to fall during the day with the first wintry stuff this afternoon in
heavy showers.
I'll try and ensure the webcam stays running :-)

Western sky darkening ominously already.

Excited cheers,

Will.
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"Will Hand" wrote in message
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Tons expected in the Alps next few days. Probably too much LOL.
Snowy charts in Britain too, especially in west and north, but promises
for the
SE too.
Interesting few days ahead.
High still showing signs of toppling but UKMO reluctant and in any event
cold
air hangs on at low levels in the south and east.


Will,

In the past I would have been really excited looking at the progs over the
next few days. The 528dm line is well clear of the S coast - there's a small
low coming down on Monday - all showing some nice snowy potential. However,
with the sea temp at 10-12c atm, I'm just not expecting much more than sleet
or if I'm lucky wet snow (certainly no settling) - even here in Guildford.
Perhaps its because of the GW stuff and that we are running 4c above the
norm - Just hope I'm wrong - but I shall definately not be getting the
sledge of of the attic just yet - that in the past has been a sure sign of
nothing even at H+24!

Phil



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"Will Hand" wrote in message
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Tons expected in the Alps next few days. Probably too much LOL.
Snowy charts in Britain too, especially in west and north, but promises
for the
SE too.
Interesting few days ahead.
High still showing signs of toppling but UKMO reluctant and in any event
cold
air hangs on at low levels in the south and east.


Will,

In the past I would have been really excited looking at the progs over the
next few days. The 528dm line is well clear of the S coast - there's a small
low coming down on Monday - all showing some nice snowy potential. However,
with the sea temp at 10-12c atm, I'm just not expecting much more than sleet
or if I'm lucky wet snow (certainly no settling) - even here in Guildford.
Perhaps its because of the GW stuff and that we are running 4c above the
norm - Just hope I'm wrong - but I shall definately not be getting the
sledge of of the attic just yet - that in the past has been a sure sign of
nothing even at H+24!

Phil


Ah but Phil, higher sea temps. means more powerful and deeper convection hence
the potential for greater inland penetration and lowering of wet-bulb freezing
levels etc. I agree rain/hail is possible *on* the coast but inland, showers
will turn readily to snow and if/when the -10C air at 850 HPa comes down, expect
the snow to settle at low elevations. Exposed hills (above 200m asl) could get
some good coverings. I understand your scepticism, it's been so warm, the next
few days will be a shock!

Will.
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Tons expected in the Alps next few days. Probably too much LOL.

My daughter will be thrilled - she is a snowyphile and has been in the
Swiss/French Alps (Morzine) all of last week with no snow and comes home
from her first ski trip on Monday!!

I am like Phil, a bit concerned about settling snow. I don't know how the
dynamics work at the interface between wet soil 8-10C and air temp of +1C
but I know the stuff wouldn't settle in these condition two years ago even
in heavy showers, although I believe that was the end of Feb/start of March.
Thanks for the encouragement anyway!
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"Will Hand" wrote in message
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Tons expected in the Alps next few days. Probably too much LOL.

My daughter will be thrilled - she is a snowyphile and has been in the
Swiss/French Alps (Morzine) all of last week with no snow and comes home
from her first ski trip on Monday!!

I am like Phil, a bit concerned about settling snow. I don't know how the
dynamics work at the interface between wet soil 8-10C and air temp of +1C
but I know the stuff wouldn't settle in these condition two years ago even
in heavy showers, although I believe that was the end of Feb/start of March.
Thanks for the encouragement anyway!
Dave



More encouragement. Last winter one evening the ground was thoroughly wet after
a mild spell and it started snowing. Within one hour 1 cm was laying.
It can happen quickly.

Will.
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Tons expected in the Alps next few days. Probably too much LOL.

My daughter will be thrilled - she is a snowyphile and has been in the
Swiss/French Alps (Morzine) all of last week with no snow and comes home
from her first ski trip on Monday!!

I am like Phil, a bit concerned about settling snow. I don't know how the
dynamics work at the interface between wet soil 8-10C and air temp of +1C
but I know the stuff wouldn't settle in these condition two years ago even
in heavy showers, although I believe that was the end of Feb/start of March.
Thanks for the encouragement anyway!
Dave



More encouragement. Last winter one evening the ground was thoroughly wet after
a mild spell and it started snowing. Within one hour 1 cm was laying.
It can happen quickly.


One event I'll always remember happened while I was still at school, about 1956.
Just after 2pm it went VERY dark, followed by thunder, lightning and torrential rain
which continued until I was leaving school at 3:30 when it turned to snow. By bedtime
we had about 6 inches and more than a foot the next morning. This was
Sittingbourne, in North Kent.
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in 217871 20070120 112328 "Will Hand" wrote:
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"Will Hand" wrote in message
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Tons expected in the Alps next few days. Probably too much LOL.

My daughter will be thrilled - she is a snowyphile and has been in the
Swiss/French Alps (Morzine) all of last week with no snow and comes
home
from her first ski trip on Monday!!
I am like Phil, a bit concerned about settling snow. I don't know how
the
dynamics work at the interface between wet soil 8-10C and air temp of
+1C
but I know the stuff wouldn't settle in these condition two years ago
even
in heavy showers, although I believe that was the end of Feb/start of
March.
Thanks for the encouragement anyway!
Dave



More encouragement. Last winter one evening the ground was thoroughly wet
after
a mild spell and it started snowing. Within one hour 1 cm was laying.
It can happen quickly.


One event I'll always remember happened while I was still at school, about
1956.
Just after 2pm it went VERY dark, followed by thunder, lightning and
torrential rain
which continued until I was leaving school at 3:30 when it turned to snow.
By bedtime
we had about 6 inches and more than a foot the next morning. This was
Sittingbourne, in North Kent.


Yes, I remember quite a few like that in the fifties and sixties!
Dave


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'Tons expected in the Alps next few days. Probably too much LOL.'

Hi Will,

How much do you think we will get??

We certainly need it!!

The max temp yesterday was 10 oC- unheard of here!! We didn't get that temp
form November to beginning of April last year.

It rained all yesterday and all the snow has mainly gone in the village-
although our guests have gone skiing today and said it was fine!!

But the slopes could do with more- what a difference a year makes this time
last year we had about a meter of snow!!

It does make a change not have to shovel the snow !

Nigel

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'Tons expected in the Alps next few days. Probably too much LOL.'

Hi Will,

How much do you think we will get??


1-2 metres!

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Thanks Will,


Right ,

I'd better get the snow blower ready- Haven't used it this winter yet!!

What sort of temps do you think will get?? We are in the middle of austria -
about 65 KM due south of Salzburg at 900 m.

Thanks.

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