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Thank you Ian for your response.
Now please explain: "January 05 AN AVERAGE OR SLIGHT BELOW PAR MONTH FOR TEMPERATURE. A cold start and some sharp frosts mid month and quite a few slight frosts as high pressure prevails and rain below average." ? We were about a full 2°C ABOVE normal, were we not?:-o :-( D. |
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LOL, only Damien has the balls to ask the master
still no word from the organ ginder TP |
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LOL, only Damien has the balls to ask the master
still no word from the organ grinder TP |
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still no word from the organ grinder TP
I don't have any money on it, either.:-( D. |
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I watched the direction of the clouds during Sunday and Sunday night.
North-westerly direction throughout, never veering around to the north No doubt the strong winds add a wind-chill outside, but the temps were never that low. Could not even manage a sleet shower I call a north-westerly 'cool' now for both summer and winter months. Opened the window last night, the room got aired, and the breeze flowing into the room felt cool, but not icy cold If they say "bitterly cold" on the tv forecasts, i'll just laugh |
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I have long thought that it is becoming increasingly difficult to get snow
in a 'northerly' situation on low ground in southern England.With max around 6 - 7 c in an airstream from the arctic in February ( when the arctic is at its coldest) the evidence speaks for itself. A look at my diary for 1978 shows that on 10 and 11 April in a northerly and despite strong sunshine ( especially on the 11th), I had a max of 6.0c on both days.This is lower than in the present northerly. There were heavy snow showers on the 10th April 1978. With the decrease in the arctic sea ice and rising sea temperatures to the north of Britain the decline in snowy northerlies in the south is not surprising. Peter Clarke Ewell 55m "Ian Currie" wrote in message . uk... In spite of the general public feeling very chilly out and about today as the wind was strong and it was around 5C or 6C early afternoon in many places below 100 metres, it was relatively mild for a north westerly or northerly airstream in virtually mid February. Today would almost certainly have been several degrees colder given a similar situation in Victorian times and for that matter the 1950s and 1960s. A max of 3C would have been expected. Even now at 20.00hrs the mercury has risen and is 5C. The trajectory of the air flow these days has a more westerly component and seems to me to have backed about 30 degrees compared to bursts of cold in the 1950s. Good examples I can cite and there were more are the third week of Jan 1952 and around the 12th in Feb; mid Feb1953 and mid Feb 1955.; the 7th Feb 1958 and late Feb 1958, and mid Jan 1959. Feb 1956 was mostly north easterly with its severe cold. I Still it proved quite a shock for many people after a max of 12C the previous day and even more so for those in the vicinity of the Downs in the Reigate area where snow lay 1 to 2cm deep around 08.00hrs this morning.However it had melted by mid morning even at 230 metres. Ian Currie-Coulsdon. |
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In article ,
John Hall writes: In article , Succorso writes: Depressing isn't it? This has happened soooo many times now, it can't just be a "chance" happening - it really is warmer now, and those Northerlies we used to have that delivered reliable snow at 0c, now deliver sleet, hail and rain at 4 to 6c. snip I guess that's what you'd expect if the ice edge is further north than it used to be, and if the sea to the south of it is a degree or two warmer. I should add that, even in the 1960s, my memories of northerlies are that - in the south - maxima were commonly about 2-3C, and that maxima as low as 0C were more associated with easterlies. -- John Hall "George the Third Ought never to have occurred. One can only wonder At so grotesque a blunder." E.C.Bentley (1875-1956) |
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If they say "bitterly cold" on the tv forecasts, i'll just laugh
Maybe the reason why this has now become the weatherman's "fad", as it were, is because the Met Office have now officially upgraded to the 1971-2000 average, haven't they? If that's so, then what was once "mild" or "average" is now, sadly, always going to be "cold".:-( I am dreading 2014....:-( :-( Yet, still, Tom Presutti, Gavin, and co., went for a SEVERE winter in 2002, accumulating around January-February time.:-( ;-( D. |
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