Why is Brussels *so much* warmer than southern England at the moment?
 

Noticed the repeated reports of very high (for the time of year)
temperatures in Brussels the last couple of days, yet in Southern
England I don't think we've reached 20C. According to the weather
charts no front lies between here and Brussels ATM so I'm rather
surprised. In a typical summer heatwave there's little difference
between Brussels and Southern England, and the quoted Brussels average
max temps (in another thread) of 13C in April and 20C in June are
pretty much exactly the same as inland Southern England... suggesting
it basically has the same type of climate, broadly speaking.

Nick

Why is Brussels *so much* warmer than southern England at the moment?
 

Brussels? It's not in UK. (newsgroup is uk.sci.weather). Am I
really that bothered?

Jack

Why is Brussels *so much* warmer than southern England at the moment?
 

Nick.
This would probably be due to airflow direction, for instance if there is a
south easterly flow Brussels would be importing air that had crossed a warm
continent, but on this same airstream reaching the channel coast temperature
modification would take place as it passes over cold water prior to reaching
the english coast. Therefore we would expect it to be noticibly cooler.
However as the summer progresses with the same airstream in place, the
channel would have warmed somewhat so the modification would be less.

Hope this helps. Best regards. Len.
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Noticed the repeated reports of very high (for the time of year)
temperatures in Brussels the last couple of days, yet in Southern
England I don't think we've reached 20C. According to the weather
charts no front lies between here and Brussels ATM so I'm rather
surprised. In a typical summer heatwave there's little difference
between Brussels and Southern England, and the quoted Brussels average
max temps (in another thread) of 13C in April and 20C in June are
pretty much exactly the same as inland Southern England... suggesting
it basically has the same type of climate, broadly speaking.

Nick

Why is Brussels *so much* warmer than southern England at the moment?
 

In article . com,
"Jack )" writes:
Brussels? It's not in UK. (newsgroup is uk.sci.weather). Am I
really that bothered?

The group's charter says: "This group is essentially for the discussion
of daily weather events, chiefly affecting the UK and adjacent parts of
Europe, both past and predicted..." In Martin Rowley's FAQ, he goes
further, and says: "It is worth pointing out that the area embraced by
the phrase 'adjacent parts of Europe' has grown to include Australasia
and North America! As long as it's interesting weather, and within the
context of the rest of the Charter, then that has come to be accepted as
OK!" But not by you, it would seem.

As for answering the question, I assume that the North Sea and Channel,
though warmer than usual at this time of year, must be taking the edge
of the temperature in comparison to Brussels.
--
John Hall

"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)

Why is Brussels *so much* warmer than southern England at the moment?
 

"John Hall" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
"Jack )" writes:
Brussels? It's not in UK. (newsgroup is uk.sci.weather). Am I
really that bothered?


I was quite interested in the reason as I'd noticed the efect here (SW
Essex) too today. Being used to the North Sea effects in NE England I
assumed that was the cause.

It takes the edge of the cold easterlies in the winter and the warm
easterlies in the summer and kills off some continental TStorms (but peps up
a smaller number of others?), I've often wondered what climate we would have
if the North Sea were still dry land. I assume that, then, the Grampians,
Pennines and Cambrian Mountains would mark more of a boundary between
different climatic zones in NW Europe - or would they?

- Tom.

Why is Brussels *so much* warmer than southern England at the moment?
 

On Apr 27, 9:20 pm, "Jack )"
wrote:
Brussels? It's not in UK. (newsgroup is uk.sci.weather). Am I
really that bothered?

Jack

Brussels is the about the same distance from London as is
Plymouth, and somewhat closer than Middlesbrough. But this is
irrelevant since it is well known that weather does not cross national
boundaries, or only rarely and with great difficulty.

Tudor Hughes

Why is Brussels *so much* warmer than southern England at the moment?
 

In uk.sci.weather on Fri, 27 Apr 2007, wrote :

Noticed the repeated reports of very high (for the time of year)
temperatures in Brussels the last couple of days, yet in Southern
England I don't think we've reached 20C. According to the weather
charts no front lies between here and Brussels ATM so I'm rather
surprised.

I'd say that can be answered in two words : North Sea.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

Why is Brussels *so much* warmer than southern England at the moment?
 

"Tudor Hughes" schreef in bericht
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On Apr 27, 9:20 pm, "Jack )"
wrote:
Brussels? It's not in UK. (newsgroup is uk.sci.weather). Am I
really that bothered?

Jack

Brussels is the about the same distance from London as is
Plymouth, and somewhat closer than Middlesbrough. But this is
irrelevant since it is well known that weather does not cross national
boundaries, or only rarely and with great difficulty.

Tudor Hughes


lol... As an "outsider" I've often noticed this, Tudor!! However these
boudaries are osmotic: so yes, the very same question occured to me, as
southern England, particularly the South East, often have the same "weather"
as we do. Apart from typical regional differences. This must be North
Sea-influences.
The temperature differences over the Netherlands this last week was amazing:
from a max 16c along the coastline to 27c with us, which is a mere distance
of 60 km (37 miles). But we had a mainly eastern (Northeast to southeast)
continental flow. So the air cools down AND there were "seawind" effects
along the coast. In soutern England its the opposite, first the air cools
down over the sea before reaching Britain.

Wijke - SE Flevopolder
Centre of the Netherlands
somewhat cooler than late: but still a Tc: 23.4c --- lovely :)).

Why is Brussels *so much* warmer than southern England at the moment?
 

On Apr 28, 11:00 am, "Wijke" wrote:
"Tudor Hughes" schreef in glegroups.com...

On Apr 27, 9:20 pm, "Jack )"
wrote:
Brussels? It's not in UK. (newsgroup is uk.sci.weather). Am I
really that bothered?

Jack

Brussels is the about the same distance from London as is
Plymouth, and somewhat closer than Middlesbrough. But this is
irrelevant since it is well known that weather does not cross national
boundaries, or only rarely and with great difficulty.

Tudor Hughes

lol... As an "outsider" I've often noticed this, Tudor!! However these
boudaries are osmotic: so yes, the very same question occured to me, as
southern England, particularly the South East, often have the same "weather"
as we do. Apart from typical regional differences. This must be North
Sea-influences.
The temperature differences over the Netherlands this last week was amazing:
from a max 16c along the coastline to 27c with us, which is a mere distance
of 60 km (37 miles). But we had a mainly eastern (Northeast to southeast)
continental flow. So the air cools down AND there were "seawind" effects
along the coast. In soutern England its the opposite, first the air cools
down over the sea before reaching Britain.

Wijke - SE Flevopolder
Centre of the Netherlands
somewhat cooler than late: but still a Tc: 23.4c --- lovely :)).

You live about as far from me as my brother, who is in
Hartlepool (NE England) on the coast. He's got 13°C, poor fellow,
whereas here it's now up to 21°C. Is there a "polder effect" on high
temperatures in The Netherlands? I'd imagine they're very shallow and
warm up quickly. Nice to see you back, BTW.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 556 ft 169 m.

Why is Brussels *so much* warmer than southern England at the moment?
 

In message , Paul Hyett
writes
In uk.sci.weather on Fri, 27 Apr 2007, wrote :

Noticed the repeated reports of very high (for the time of year)
temperatures in Brussels the last couple of days, yet in Southern
England I don't think we've reached 20C. According to the weather
charts no front lies between here and Brussels ATM so I'm rather
surprised.

I'd say that can be answered in two words : North Sea.

What about EU bureaucracy? Perhaps the MEPs like it a bit warmer :-)
--
Tim
http://www.pitfieldbeershop.co.uk/

Why is Brussels *so much* warmer than southern England at the moment?
 

In uk.sci.weather on Sat, 28 Apr 2007, Tim
wrote :

Noticed the repeated reports of very high (for the time of year)
temperatures in Brussels the last couple of days, yet in Southern
England I don't think we've reached 20C. According to the weather
charts no front lies between here and Brussels ATM so I'm rather
surprised.

I'd say that can be answered in two words : North Sea.

What about EU bureaucracy? Perhaps the MEPs like it a bit warmer :-)

Well they do spout an awful lot of hot air... :)
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

Why is Brussels *so much* warmer than southern England at the moment?
 

"Tudor Hughes" schreef in bericht
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On Apr 28, 11:00 am, "Wijke" wrote:
"Tudor Hughes" schreef in
glegroups.com...

On Apr 27, 9:20 pm, "Jack )"
wrote:
Brussels? It's not in UK. (newsgroup is uk.sci.weather). Am I
really that bothered?

Jack

Brussels is the about the same distance from London as is
Plymouth, and somewhat closer than Middlesbrough. But this is
irrelevant since it is well known that weather does not cross national
boundaries, or only rarely and with great difficulty.

Tudor Hughes

lol... As an "outsider" I've often noticed this, Tudor!! However these
boudaries are osmotic: so yes, the very same question occured to me, as
southern England, particularly the South East, often have the same
"weather"
as we do. Apart from typical regional differences. This must be North
Sea-influences.
The temperature differences over the Netherlands this last week was
amazing:
from a max 16c along the coastline to 27c with us, which is a mere
distance
of 60 km (37 miles). But we had a mainly eastern (Northeast to southeast)
continental flow. So the air cools down AND there were "seawind" effects
along the coast. In soutern England its the opposite, first the air cools
down over the sea before reaching Britain.

Wijke - SE Flevopolder
Centre of the Netherlands
somewhat cooler than late: but still a Tc: 23.4c --- lovely :)).

You live about as far from me as my brother, who is in
Hartlepool (NE England) on the coast. He's got 13°C, poor fellow,
whereas here it's now up to 21°C. Is there a "polder effect" on high
temperatures in The Netherlands? I'd imagine they're very shallow and
warm up quickly. Nice to see you back, BTW.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 556 ft 169 m.

Don't think so, Tudor. But there's certainly a micro-climate at this side of
the polder. We live close to a 40year-old 8000 acres forest (planted in
1968). With us its always somewhat warmer and dryer than in the rest of the
Netherlands. For me its due to this forest, many hypotheses about the
micro-climate are there; none has been proven right thus far. The soil at
this side of the polder is a mixture of clay and sand. Compared to
clay-ground, sand absorbes less heat - on sunny days it hotter at daytime
but cooler at night. Our microclimate must be influences by a combination of
the soil and this forest..... who'll tell??

Wind's turned north-east, air's cooler but still a Tc 21.3c. (compared to
the long-term average of 12c -- its okay :)).

Wijke