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Trevor Harley June 2nd 07 05:59 PM

Can anywhere have worse weather than Dundee?
 
Haar all day, the mist just lifting a little now ... the virtual
mercury has reached the giddy heights of 12.1C, but the wind is biting
....

Given that so much of the UK's finest weather comes on Es and SEs,
Dundee frequently shivers while the rest of the country basks. I
wouldn't mind so much if we had the compensation of heavy rain,
interesting thunderstorms, severe frosts, or frequent blizzards.

I'm not sure though why this part of east Scotland is as bad as it is.
I see Sunderland and Tynemouth are enjoying 21C today; is it really the
case that a few extra miles of width of the North Sea makes so much
difference, or is there some other factor I'm forgetting? One argument
against the North Sea being the only explanation is that it's 20C in
Orkney, and the wind must be travelling across an even greater expanse
of sea there.


Trevor
Weather; http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~taharley/


Gianna June 2nd 07 06:18 PM

Can anywhere have worse weather than Dundee?
 
Trevor Harley wrote:
Haar all day, the mist just lifting a little now ... the virtual mercury
has reached the giddy heights of 12.1C, but the wind is biting ...


Much the same as here then.

If the fog went away, it would be nice and warm ... if ...


--
Gianna

http://www.buchan-meteo.org.uk
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Steve Loft June 2nd 07 06:34 PM

Can anywhere have worse weather than Dundee?
 
Trevor Harley wrote:

difference, or is there some other factor I'm forgetting? One argument
against the North Sea being the only explanation is that it's 20C in
Orkney, and the wind must be travelling across an even greater expanse
of sea there.


Trevor, which bit of Orkney reached 20C today? Certainly not this bit. I
don't know what our max was, as my temp sensor has gone loopy, but it
must have been similar to Kirkwall, which seems to have had a max around
12C. I suppose West Mainland would have got a bit higher if the sun got
out there.
--
Steve Loft
Sanday, Orkney. 5m ASL
http://sanday.org.uk/weather

Graham Easterling June 2nd 07 07:00 PM

Can anywhere have worse weather than Dundee?
 
On 2 Jun, 18:18, Gianna wrote:
Trevor Harley wrote:
Haar all day, the mist just lifting a little now ... the virtual mercury
has reached the giddy heights of 12.1C, but the wind is biting ...


Much the same as here then.

If the fog went away, it would be nice and warm ... if ...

--
Gianna

http://www.buchan-meteo.org.uk
* * * * * * *


It's also been misty all day in Penzance.

Warmer mist than Dundee though, 15-16C most of the day, briefly up to
17C during a glimpse of the sun.

Graham
Penzance


Trevor Harley June 2nd 07 08:14 PM

Can anywhere have worse weather than Dundee?
 
On 2007-06-02 18:34:58 +0100, Steve Loft said:

Trevor, which bit of Orkney reached 20C today?


Rackwick was showing 20C earlier on:

http://skylinkweather.com/metar/meta...stationid=EGPN

and now 18C. Kirkwall is now 11C. Obviously I have no idea if the
figures are accurate! The difference does seem rather large for such a
small distance.

Trevor



Norman Lynagh June 2nd 07 08:19 PM

Can anywhere have worse weather than Dundee?
 
In message 2007060217595516807-taharley@dundeeacuk, Trevor Harley
writes
Haar all day, the mist just lifting a little now ... the virtual
mercury has reached the giddy heights of 12.1C, but the wind is biting
...

Given that so much of the UK's finest weather comes on Es and SEs,
Dundee frequently shivers while the rest of the country basks. I
wouldn't mind so much if we had the compensation of heavy rain,
interesting thunderstorms, severe frosts, or frequent blizzards.

I'm not sure though why this part of east Scotland is as bad as it is.
I see Sunderland and Tynemouth are enjoying 21C today; is it really the
case that a few extra miles of width of the North Sea makes so much
difference, or is there some other factor I'm forgetting? One argument
against the North Sea being the only explanation is that it's 20C in
Orkney, and the wind must be travelling across an even greater expanse
of sea there.


Trevor
Weather; http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~taharley/


But isn't this why we are all so addicted to weather observing in this
country:-) An insignificant spot on the globe but with such a diverse
variety of weather, even on any individual day.

Norman
(delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail)
--
Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy
Chalfont St Giles 85m a.s.l.
England

Dave Liquorice June 2nd 07 08:26 PM

Can anywhere have worse weather than Dundee?
 
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 11:00:58 -0700, Graham Easterling wrote:

Haar all day, the mist just lifting a little now ... the virtual
mercury has reached the giddy heights of 12.1C, but the wind is biting


Much the same as here then.

If the fog went away, it would be nice and warm ... if ...


It's also been misty all day in Penzance.

Warmer mist than Dundee though, 15-16C most of the day, briefly up to
17C during a glimpse of the sun.


Lovely day up here, sunshine and hot max 21.4C, though that is a little
spike, the norm has been just under 20C. Nice gentle walk up to the source
of the South Tyne at 557m (1826'), bit breezy probably F4 or F5 but that
stopped it being unbearably hot.

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail




Steve Loft June 2nd 07 08:39 PM

Can anywhere have worse weather than Dundee?
 
Trevor Harley wrote:
On 2007-06-02 18:34:58 +0100, Steve Loft said:

Trevor, which bit of Orkney reached 20C today?


Rackwick was showing 20C earlier on:

http://skylinkweather.com/metar/meta...stationid=EGPN

and now 18C. Kirkwall is now 11C. Obviously I have no idea if the
figures are accurate! The difference does seem rather large for such a
small distance.


Well, I guess over in the west they haven't got the haar that we've got,
so maybe it really is that high. Having looked at temperatures around
the UK, it's hard to believe most places seem to have had a hot sunny
day when it's been so completely miserable here.
--
Steve Loft
Sanday, Orkney. 5m ASL
http://sanday.org.uk/weather

Trevor Harley June 2nd 07 08:48 PM

Can anywhere have worse weather than Dundee?
 
On 2007-06-02 20:39:50 +0100, Steve Loft said:

Having looked at temperatures around the UK, it's hard to believe most
places seem to have had a hot sunny day when it's been so completely
miserable here.



Tell me about it.

As a child of the south, I do find the summers here pretty depressing,
particularly when it's really hot in the south. The light evenings are
some scant compensation. The cheery BBC presenters bring me even more
down when they go on about "the heatwave".

T

Gloomy, cold, Dundee - is snow likely tonight?


Jon O'Rourke June 2nd 07 09:10 PM

Can anywhere have worse weather than Dundee?
 
"Graham Easterling" wrote in message
ups.com...
On 2 Jun, 18:18, Gianna wrote:


It's also been misty all day in Penzance.

Warmer mist than Dundee though, 15-16C most of the day, briefly up to
17C during a glimpse of the sun.

Graham
Penzance


Noticed a number of the webcams down that way were quite grotty. Plymouth
particularly so with fog being reported on the last METAR at 1250Z
http://weather.uwyo.edu/cgi-bin/wyow...M&STATION=EGHD

Further east it was quite pleasant until the stratocu layer rolled in during
the afternoon and if anything it turned a bit chilly. As typified by the
Exeter METARs
http://weather.uwyo.edu/cgi-bin/wyow...M&STATION=EGTE

Next week's looking warmer as a block becomes established and the slow
moving frontal zone in the west disperses/frontolyses. Also indications of
an increased risk of thunder towards the end of the week - as per the
troughs/564dam area at T+132, which appears loosely tied to a 16-18C 850mb
theta-w plume moving NW over the continent
http://www.weather.org.uk/charts/UKCpf132.gif

Jon. (East Devon)




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