"David Buttery" wrote in message
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"Adam Lea" wrote in
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There isn't the time to go into much detail in the two minutes or so
that the weather forecast is slotted into.

There's time for more than we get. In any case, even if this is so - why
cannot one of the channels (preferably a terrestrial one, but BBC4 or News
24 would be better than nothing) show a five-minute detailed weather - a
bit like the way Weatherview used to be - every night? I simply fail to
believe that too few people would be interested to justify a slot
*anywhere*!

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.

There is also BBC interactive 24 hour weather 'channel' which could offer so
much, yet it is simply updated helicopter rides around the UK giving out the
most basic information. Not even a European forecast. Sky active is the best
we get on TV where there has recently been a return to the interesting
worldwide weather slot.

Let's not forget just how hopeless the other UK national terrestrial
channels are in this respect. The most informative forecasters are - like
the BBC - those doing the regional programmes.

"David Haggas" wrote in message
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"David Buttery" wrote in message
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"Adam Lea" wrote in
:

There isn't the time to go into much detail in the two minutes or so
that the weather forecast is slotted into.

There's time for more than we get. In any case, even if this is so - why
cannot one of the channels (preferably a terrestrial one, but BBC4 or
News
24 would be better than nothing) show a five-minute detailed weather - a
bit like the way Weatherview used to be - every night? I simply fail to
believe that too few people would be interested to justify a slot
*anywhere*!

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.

There is also BBC interactive 24 hour weather 'channel' which could offer
so much, yet it is simply updated helicopter rides around the UK giving
out the most basic information. Not even a European forecast. Sky active
is the best we get on TV where there has recently been a return to the
interesting worldwide weather slot.

Let's not forget just how hopeless the other UK national terrestrial
channels are in this respect. The most informative forecasters are - like
the BBC - those doing the regional programmes.

When we were touring the States a couple of years ago, my favourite channel
that I used to tune into in motels was the Weather Channel, as much weather
info as you could take. We could do with a similar channel over here on
Freeview, instead of all the rubbish quiz and shopping channels that are
foisted on us.

On Jul 5, 6:10 pm, John Hall wrote:
In article ,

Fred writes:
I've noticed that whenever I've been to the States, their weather forecasts
often seem to be a lot more informative than the usual stuff that we're fed
with over here, such as it's going to be windy, wet and warm. Presumably the
powers that be must think that the great British public aren't intelligent
enough to be able to take in any more than basic wind speed, rainfall and
temperature figures.

Which is strange, when America is supposed to be the home of dumbing
down. If the US TV networks believe that their viewers can cope, why
does the BBC think differently?

I got a couple of shots over the bow from representatives of Andrew
Lane. I'd love to know what sort of CV he is publishing. I'd like to
know how many more in that house of ill repute put the knife into
decent reporting not just the weather bureau there.

IIGC it was all going downhill rather rapidly in the last days of good
king Giles.

As for the USAnians; catastrophically, they stopped dumbing down years
ago, around about the time of Kennedy and Johnson, maybe.

Ever since, they seem to have been dumbing up.

Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Jul 5, 6:10 pm, John Hall wrote:
In article ,

Fred writes:
I've noticed that whenever I've been to the States, their weather forecasts
often seem to be a lot more informative than the usual stuff that we're fed
with over here, such as it's going to be windy, wet and warm. Presumably the
powers that be must think that the great British public aren't intelligent
enough to be able to take in any more than basic wind speed, rainfall and
temperature figures.
Which is strange, when America is supposed to be the home of dumbing
down. If the US TV networks believe that their viewers can cope, why
does the BBC think differently?

I got a couple of shots over the bow from representatives of Andrew
Lane. I'd love to know what sort of CV he is publishing. I'd like to
know how many more in that house of ill repute put the knife into
decent reporting not just the weather bureau there.

IIGC it was all going downhill rather rapidly in the last days of good
king Giles.

As for the USAnians; catastrophically, they stopped dumbing down years
ago, around about the time of Kennedy and Johnson, maybe.

Ever since, they seem to have been dumbing up.


We've been down this road so many times, filled in surveys for the Met
Office and the BBC to no avail, I find BBC East's 18:55 forecast the
best and of course the Farming Forecast, shame they cut off Julia last
night so we could view some crappy trailers, I just turned the bloody
thing off in disgust last night as we never got to see the five day
pictures and was interested in this weekends weather for an outdoor
activity!

--
Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
e-mail: kreh at southendweather dot net

Fred wrote:

When we were touring the States a couple of years ago, my favourite channel
that I used to tune into in motels was the Weather Channel, as much weather
info as you could take. We could do with a similar channel over here on
Freeview, instead of all the rubbish quiz and shopping channels that are
foisted on us.

There used to be a UK Weather Channel on satellite a few years back, but
it didn't last long - closed due to lack of interest, I believe.

I think the problem is that most people in the UK just want to be told
to take their brolly with them when they're walking the dog, they don't
really care /why/. We in this newsgroup are in a very small minority,
and the advertisers aren't interested in minorities. The BBC, on the
other hand, ought to "inform, educate, and entertain" regardless, and if
they ever get back to doing that I might consider having a TV again.
--
Steve Loft
Sanday, Orkney. 5m ASL
http://sanday.org.uk/weather

On Jul 6, 4:02 pm, "Keith (Southend)"
wrote:
Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Jul 5, 6:10 pm, John Hall wrote:
In article ,

Fred writes:

I've noticed that whenever I've been to the States, their weather forecasts
often seem to be a lot more informative than the usual stuff that we're fed
with over here, such as it's going to be windy, wet and warm. Presumably the
powers that be must think that the great British public aren't intelligent
enough to be able to take in any more than basic wind speed, rainfall and
temperature figures.

Which is strange, when America is supposed to be the home of dumbing
down. If the US TV networks believe that their viewers can cope, why
does the BBC think differently?

I got a couple of shots over the bow from representatives of Andrew
Lane. I'd love to know what sort of CV he is publishing. I'd like to
know how many more in that house of ill repute put the knife into
decent reporting not just the weather bureau there.

IIGC it was all going downhill rather rapidly in the last days of good
king Giles.

We've been down this road so many times, filled in surveys for the Met
Office and the BBC to no avail,

That may be so but the situation is still open to fair comment. Steve
Loft seems to think the road petered out around about the time Bill
Giles was trying his best.

The internet has rather changed things these days with more people up
for a carp if not an intelligent discussion. I happen to like carp.

Besides, even the BBC has a need for more and more material these
days, pathetic though the choice appears to be. Perhaps now that there
is a drug on the quizz show market and the BBC pwns the digital free
to air and they are only spending the license muny on tennith....

And Andrew Lane is putting out feelers to god knows where

I find BBC East's 18:55 forecast the best and of course the Farming
Forecast, shame they cut off Julia last night so we could view some
crappy trailers, I just turned the bloody thing off in disgust last night
as we never got to see the five day pictures and was interested in this
weekends weather for an outdoor activity!

I agree that there seems to be more scope for better or deeper
forecasts from the regions. I don't know about the other regions but
the North Midlands is very good these days.

Pity "Good Morning" or whatever the minging weather crapfest the BBC
morning show is called isn't regional.

As for this weekend, and bearing mind what I originally said about
this weather spell, we should be OK for good weather on Saturday as it
is a classically fine spell. (Anything extra breezy and frightening
from last night and today is just the old sow moving off.)

Of course if you are going to be visiting areas that have seismic
storms rather than our aerial stuff......

.... Well... what do I know?

Got any records from June 1998?