John Hall wrote in
:

It's inhabited. See http://www.lagganlia.com/

It seems only to be an outdoor centre, though, rather than a *village* as
such. The site's "History" page indicates that there was nothing much there
before the centre opened in 1970.

snip, mostly quoted text

ISTR that somewhere there's a site that gives the highest and lowest
temperatures recorded in the UK for each day of the year, but I
couldn't find it again.

TORRO *nearly* manage it:

http://www.torro.org.uk/TORRO/britwx...htempsyear.php
http://www.torro.org.uk/TORRO/britwx...wtempsyear.php

Unfortunately, their claim to give figures for "each day of the year" is
incorrect, as the lows for June to September (inclusive) are entirely
missing. I did once email them to ask about that, but got no reply.

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:01:19 -0500, David Buttery
wrote:

If it's an inhabited place,...

The OS 1:50,000 shows thirteen buildings.

The NGR is NH0583

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather

On 14 Aug, 07:15, Alan White wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:25:03 -0700, Tudor Hughes
wrote:

It's a valley bottom site just off Strathspey and something
of a frost hollow.

I did wonder but the 1:50,000 contours didn't seem to support it, the
valley bottom being about 230 metres.

Hi, Alan,

Lagganlia first appeared in the 1970's in the COL (Climatological
Observers' Link) magazine. For those of us old enough to remember, it
was run by the same person who ran the Inverdruie (by Aviemore) COL
site. I think his name was Ian Hudson. Perhaps older COL members will
remember..
He was also involved with the Glenmore Lodge outward bound site as far
as I recall.

Ken
Copley, Teesdale, County Durham

On Aug 14, 10:45 am, David Buttery wrote:
John Hall wrote :

It's inhabited. Seehttp://www.lagganlia.com/

It seems only to be an outdoor centre, though, rather than a *village* as
such. The site's "History" page indicates that there was nothing much there
before the centre opened in 1970.

snip, mostly quoted text

ISTR that somewhere there's a site that gives the highest and lowest
temperatures recorded in the UK for each day of the year, but I
couldn't find it again.

TORRO *nearly* manage it:

http://www.torro.org.uk/TORRO/britwx...wtempsyear.php

Unfortunately, their claim to give figures for "each day of the year" is
incorrect, as the lows for June to September (inclusive) are entirely
missing. I did once email them to ask about that, but got no reply.

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.

Webb and Meaden, both from TORRO, provided UK extreme temperatures for
an article in the September 2000 edition of Weather.
However, although maxima were given for each day of the year, daily
minima were restricted to Oct to May inclusive, with the months of
June through to Sept
each divided into thirds, and the lowest given for these 10 or 11 day
blocks.
Thus for August: 1-10th Lagganlia -2.2 C on 6th 1977.
11-20th Lagganlia -2.1 C on 19th 1974.
21-31st Lagganlia -4.5 C and Grantown on
Spey -4.4 C, both on 21st 1973.

"Ken Cook" wrote in message
ups.com...
On 14 Aug, 07:15, Alan White wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:25:03 -0700, Tudor Hughes
wrote:

It's a valley bottom site just off Strathspey and something
of a frost hollow.

I did wonder but the 1:50,000 contours didn't seem to support it, the
valley bottom being about 230 metres.

Lagganlia first appeared in the 1970's in the COL (Climatological
Observers' Link) magazine. For those of us old enough to remember, it
was run by the same person who ran the Inverdruie (by Aviemore) COL
site. I think his name was Ian Hudson. Perhaps older COL members will
remember..
He was also involved with the Glenmore Lodge outward bound site as far
as I recall.

I certainly remember Iain Hudson ...especially his very comprehensive
account of the early-September snowfall in Aberdeenshire in 1976,
annotated with incredibly detailed, yet perfectly readable, manuscript
diagrams.

It seems entirely in character that he should have established other
climat. stations in the region. I've checked the book, and note that
Lagganlia was an official climat.station between 1972 and 1987,
the authority being given successively as Mr J.Paisley in 1975,
1978 and 1981, and Mr D.Craig in 1987.

I remember 21 August 1973 as well ...it was my first day of
full-time employment! ... at Edgbaston Observatory. We'd had five
days of hot and sunny weather the previous week, and it stayed
fair and warm for a few more days, but a (dry) cold front moved
southwards across the country on the 20th followed by a mobile
cold anticyclone which had originally developed over northeast
Greenland. Air frost was reported from most inland sites (of which
there were a large number in the early-70s) from Sutherland down
to Perthshire and Angus.

Lagganlia was the pre-eminent summer frost-hollow in those
days (it did slightly less well in winter), and the favourable
natural topography was probably helped by dense coniferous
woodland on three sides, including down the Feshie valley,
and that would have provided an effective barrier to the
katabatic flow.

Philip

On Aug 14, 12:37 pm, "Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom
wrote:
"Ken Cook" wrote in message

ups.com...



On 14 Aug, 07:15, Alan White wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:25:03 -0700, Tudor Hughes
wrote:

It's a valley bottom site just off Strathspey and something
of a frost hollow.

I did wonder but the 1:50,000 contours didn't seem to support it, the
valley bottom being about 230 metres.

Lagganlia first appeared in the 1970's in the COL (Climatological
Observers' Link) magazine. For those of us old enough to remember, it
was run by the same person who ran the Inverdruie (by Aviemore) COL
site. I think his name was Ian Hudson. Perhaps older COL members will
remember..
He was also involved with the Glenmore Lodge outward bound site as far
as I recall.

I certainly remember Iain Hudson ...especially his very comprehensive
account of the early-September snowfall in Aberdeenshire in 1976,
annotated with incredibly detailed, yet perfectly readable, manuscript
diagrams.

It seems entirely in character that he should have established other
climat. stations in the region. I've checked the book, and note that
Lagganlia was an official climat.station between 1972 and 1987,
the authority being given successively as Mr J.Paisley in 1975,
1978 and 1981, and Mr D.Craig in 1987.

I remember 21 August 1973 as well ...it was my first day of
full-time employment! ... at Edgbaston Observatory. We'd had five
days of hot and sunny weather the previous week, and it stayed
fair and warm for a few more days, but a (dry) cold front moved
southwards across the country on the 20th followed by a mobile
cold anticyclone which had originally developed over northeast
Greenland. Air frost was reported from most inland sites (of which
there were a large number in the early-70s) from Sutherland down
to Perthshire and Angus.

Lagganlia was the pre-eminent summer frost-hollow in those
days (it did slightly less well in winter), and the favourable
natural topography was probably helped by dense coniferous
woodland on three sides, including down the Feshie valley,
and that would have provided an effective barrier to the
katabatic flow.

Philip- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I remember reading that it had a *maximum* temperature
of -15°C on 10 Jan 1982 during that cold spell in which Braemar
equalled its 87-yr-old record minimum. (-27.2°C) I don't know what
the minimum at Lagganlia was, though.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

Dick Lovett wrote in
ups.com:

Webb and Meaden, both from TORRO, provided UK extreme temperatures for
an article in the September 2000 edition of Weather.
However, although maxima were given for each day of the year, daily
minima were restricted to Oct to May inclusive, with the months of
June through to Sept
each divided into thirds, and the lowest given for these 10 or 11 day
blocks.
snip

Do you know why the more precise figures were not given? It seems odd,
especially since - as you mention - the *maxima* are indeed given for every
day.

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.

On Aug 14, 5:29 pm, David Buttery wrote:
Dick Lovett wrote roups.com:

Webb and Meaden, both from TORRO, provided UK extreme temperatures for
an article in the September 2000 edition of Weather.
However, although maxima were given for each day of the year, daily
minima were restricted to Oct to May inclusive, with the months of
June through to Sept
each divided into thirds, and the lowest given for these 10 or 11 day
blocks.

snip

Do you know why the more precise figures were not given? It seems odd,
especially since - as you mention - the *maxima* are indeed given for every
day.

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.

The temperature list was restricted to sites with an elevation below
500 m asl, but this enabled it to include places such as
Flash in Staffordshire at 463 m. However, apparently, there were too
many reported minima for individual days from such 'upland' sites
during June to September, so
it was decided to restrict the recorded lows to 10 day periods so that
such media questions as 'what is the lowest temperature recorded in
the middle of August' could still be answered.

Dick Lovett
Charlbury OXON Cotswolds.

Dick Lovett wrote in
oups.com:

The temperature list was restricted to sites with an elevation below
500 m asl, but this enabled it to include places such as
Flash in Staffordshire at 463 m. However, apparently, there were too
many reported minima for individual days from such 'upland' sites
during June to September, so
it was decided to restrict the recorded lows to 10 day periods so that
such media questions as 'what is the lowest temperature recorded in
the middle of August' could still be answered.

Dick Lovett
Charlbury OXON Cotswolds.

That makes sense, I suppose. I'd still like to see the daily figures
available somewhere, though, and I'm sure the media would as well - since
newspapers also like "date records". Midsummer's Day or August Bank Holiday
spring to mind (okay, not a fixed date, but close).

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.

David Buttery wrote in
.145:

snip
Secondly, a Canadian friend pointed me at the following earlier today
in order to illustrate a point they were making (that, slightly to
their surprise, no August snow has been recorded in Saskatoon). This:

http://www.climate.weatheroffice.ec..../results_e.htm
l?StnID=3328&autofwd=1

Is there anything easily and freely available online that approaches
that for British locations? The nearest I can think of is the
Weatheronline.co.uk History section, but that's still nothing like
as good as the Canadian site.

Hmmm. Nobody has answered this part of my question, so I strongly suspect
that the answer is "no", and that the Met Office's answer would be "ha ha
ha, unless you have large sums of cash about your person". Looks like
Weatheronline and Weather Underground are the best I'm going to get.

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.