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[email protected] November 24th 07 12:46 PM

BBC's use of Finishing Numbers instead of Overnight Min Temps
 
On 24 Nov, 08:25, Bonos Ego wrote:
On Nov 23, 11:51 pm, David Buttery wrote:

Brian Wakem wrote :


And they only show the temperature in the "towns and cities". It's
all part of their GW agenda.


Or possibly because that's where most people live. I think the great
expanses of blue colouring on the map make it pretty clear that it's going
to be cold! Don't get me wrong, I agree with Bonos Ego (and a lot of other
people!) that the BBC graphics are poor in many regards... but not
everything the BBC does has a sinister political motive. Really!


--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.


The areas coloured blue does not tell me whether the temperature is
-1c or -10c.

Also, Fog appears the same colour as Snow. On the old graphics they
had FOG in capital letters on the map, which clearly tells the viewer
there will be FOG, and not Snow.

Good graphics clearly communicate the information/message to the
viewer without the need of running commentary from the presenter.
Obviously the presenter cannot mention every UK location in a 1min
slot, and that is why the graphics should communicate the message
rather than relying on the presenter to do so.

I take issue with most people living in cities, with there being circa
60 million in the UK.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom

Using the main UK cities

London = 7.5m
Glasgow = 0.5m
Edinburgh = 0.4m
Cardiff = 0.3m
Belfast = 0.3m
Birmingham = 1.0m
Manchester = 0.5m (Inc Salford)
Liverpool = 0.4m
Sheffield = 0.5m
Newcastle = 0.3m

That leaves 48.3m living in the rest of the UK


There's another million living in the area Bristol/Bath/Weston, and a
similar number in Leeds/Bradford.


Bonos Ego November 24th 07 01:04 PM

BBC's use of Finishing Numbers instead of Overnight Min Temps
 

There's another million living in the area Bristol/Bath/Weston, and a
similar number in Leeds/Bradford.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I know, I'm just playing with numbers to make a point that most people
do not live in the major cities listed above.

Even if you start adding in all the cities of say 0.1m each, you have
got to get down from 48.3m to 29.9m before the statment that most
people in the UK live in cities is correct, and that is unlikely.

Bonos Ego November 24th 07 01:13 PM

BBC's use of Finishing Numbers instead of Overnight Min Temps
 
For reference, there are currently 66 registered cities in the UK,
source Any Question Answered http://www.issuebits.com/index1.htm?next=1

(66-10 listed above) x 0.1m = 5.6m in the other UK cities.

Graham Easterling[_2_] November 24th 07 01:50 PM

BBC's use of Finishing Numbers instead of Overnight Min Temps
 
On 24 Nov, 14:13, Bonos Ego wrote:
For reference, there are currently 66 registered cities in the UK,
source Any Question Answeredhttp://www.issuebits.com/index1.htm?next=1

(66-10 listed above) x 0.1m = 5.6m in the other UK cities.


Truro's a city, and has around 20k inhabitants. St David's has a
population of 2k. Neil got it about right using the 1991 census.

Graham
Penzance - where its 9-10C, dull, damp & miserable.
(The weather that is, not Penzance)


www.easterling.freeserve.co.uk/
www.webcottages.co.uk/turnstonecottage

David Buttery November 24th 07 10:58 PM

BBC's use of Finishing Numbers instead of Overnight Min Temps
 
Bonos Ego wrote in
:

The areas coloured blue does not tell me whether the temperature is
-1c or -10c.

Also, Fog appears the same colour as Snow. On the old graphics they
had FOG in capital letters on the map, which clearly tells the viewer
there will be FOG, and not Snow.

snip

I agree. As I said, I also think the graphics are poor in many regards. I
was really responding to the "BBC's GW agenda" comment. I would *far*
prefer to see a return to the old temperature gradient maps - though
preferably done a lot better than the truly dreadful sea temperature ones
on the BBC website!

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.

David Buttery November 24th 07 10:59 PM

BBC's use of Finishing Numbers instead of Overnight Min Temps
 
Bonos Ego wrote in news:66700445-e4b5-4f03-af7c-
:

I know, I'm just playing with numbers to make a point that most people
do not live in the major cities listed above.

snip

No, but Brian Wakem said "*towns and* cities" (my emphasis). Again, I agree
that the current graphics are poor, but to be honest I rather took that bit
as read!

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.


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