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With overnight lows forecast down to -5c in many parts of the rural
south of England tonight, why does the BBC choose to show "Finishing Numbers" at 09:00AM (BBC Forecast on News at 10 23/11/07), which will be around +1c in many parts @ 09:00? Surely it is much more important to indicate that temperatures will drop well below freezing overnight, particularly if you are out driving overnight and need to take care on the roads, or you are a Farmer and need to look after the welfare of your animals, rather than showing the temperature when most people are having their breakfast. Come on BBC, start showing the information that the viewer really needs and get rid of your awful graphics & fly byes. |
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Bonos Ego wrote:
With overnight lows forecast down to -5c in many parts of the rural south of England tonight, why does the BBC choose to show "Finishing Numbers" at 09:00AM (BBC Forecast on News at 10 23/11/07), which will be around +1c in many parts @ 09:00? Surely it is much more important to indicate that temperatures will drop well below freezing overnight, particularly if you are out driving overnight and need to take care on the roads, or you are a Farmer and need to look after the welfare of your animals, rather than showing the temperature when most people are having their breakfast. Come on BBC, start showing the information that the viewer really needs and get rid of your awful graphics & fly byes. And they only show the temperature in the "towns and cities". It's all part of their GW agenda. -- Brian Wakem |
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Brian Wakem wrote in
: And they only show the temperature in the "towns and cities". It's all part of their GW agenda. Or possibly because that's where most people live. I think the great expanses of blue colouring on the map make it pretty clear that it's going to be cold! Don't get me wrong, I agree with Bonos Ego (and a lot of other people!) that the BBC graphics are poor in many regards... but not everything the BBC does has a sinister political motive. Really! -- Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl. |
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David Buttery wrote:
Brian Wakem wrote in : And they only show the temperature in the "towns and cities". It's all part of their GW agenda. Or possibly because that's where most people live. I think the great expanses of blue colouring on the map make it pretty clear that it's going to be cold! Don't get me wrong, I agree with Bonos Ego (and a lot of other people!) that the BBC graphics are poor in many regards... but not everything the BBC does has a sinister political motive. Really! Perhaps so, but if the presenter says there will be a widespread frost and points to temperatures of +2 or +3 then this will only confuse Joe Public. -- Brian Wakem |
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On Nov 23, 11:51 pm, David Buttery wrote:
Brian Wakem wrote : And they only show the temperature in the "towns and cities". It's all part of their GW agenda. Or possibly because that's where most people live. I think the great expanses of blue colouring on the map make it pretty clear that it's going to be cold! Don't get me wrong, I agree with Bonos Ego (and a lot of other people!) that the BBC graphics are poor in many regards... but not everything the BBC does has a sinister political motive. Really! -- Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl. Some good sense there. To a dedicated puritan even the act of walking has lubricious overtones but that's his problem. I don't watch these forecasts any more. They don't tell me anything I can't deduce for myself and they raise my blood pressure and at my age that is not good. I have taught myself to giggle rather than rage at the graphics which show a southerly wind in the north of Scotland coming straight out of the ground. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. |
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On Nov 23, 11:51 pm, David Buttery wrote:
Brian Wakem wrote : And they only show the temperature in the "towns and cities". It's all part of their GW agenda. Or possibly because that's where most people live. I think the great expanses of blue colouring on the map make it pretty clear that it's going to be cold! Don't get me wrong, I agree with Bonos Ego (and a lot of other people!) that the BBC graphics are poor in many regards... but not everything the BBC does has a sinister political motive. Really! Really, really? Or have you been listening to Alistair Campbell? |
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On Nov 23, 11:51 pm, David Buttery wrote:
Brian Wakem wrote : And they only show the temperature in the "towns and cities". It's all part of their GW agenda. Or possibly because that's where most people live. I think the great expanses of blue colouring on the map make it pretty clear that it's going to be cold! Don't get me wrong, I agree with Bonos Ego (and a lot of other people!) that the BBC graphics are poor in many regards... but not everything the BBC does has a sinister political motive. Really! -- Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl. The areas coloured blue does not tell me whether the temperature is -1c or -10c. Also, Fog appears the same colour as Snow. On the old graphics they had FOG in capital letters on the map, which clearly tells the viewer there will be FOG, and not Snow. Good graphics clearly communicate the information/message to the viewer without the need of running commentary from the presenter. Obviously the presenter cannot mention every UK location in a 1min slot, and that is why the graphics should communicate the message rather than relying on the presenter to do so. I take issue with most people living in cities, with there being circa 60 million in the UK. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom Using the main UK cities London = 7.5m Glasgow = 0.5m Edinburgh = 0.4m Cardiff = 0.3m Belfast = 0.3m Birmingham = 1.0m Manchester = 0.5m (Inc Salford) Liverpool = 0.4m Sheffield = 0.5m Newcastle = 0.3m That leaves 48.3m living in the rest of the UK |
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Bonos Ego wrote:
I take issue with most people living in cities, with there being circa 60 million in the UK. According to the 1991 census, 50.1% of the population of England and Wales lived in urban settlements with population of over 250,000. http://www.statistics.gov.uk/geography/downloads/User%20Guide%20_27AugONS.pdf -- Neil Sunderland Braunton, Devon Please observe the Reply-To address |
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On 24 Nov, 08:25, Bonos Ego wrote:
On Nov 23, 11:51 pm, David Buttery wrote: Brian Wakem wrote : And they only show the temperature in the "towns and cities". It's all part of their GW agenda. Or possibly because that's where most people live. I think the great expanses of blue colouring on the map make it pretty clear that it's going to be cold! Don't get me wrong, I agree with Bonos Ego (and a lot of other people!) that the BBC graphics are poor in many regards... but not everything the BBC does has a sinister political motive. Really! -- Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl. The areas coloured blue does not tell me whether the temperature is -1c or -10c. Also, Fog appears the same colour as Snow. On the old graphics they had FOG in capital letters on the map, which clearly tells the viewer there will be FOG, and not Snow. Good graphics clearly communicate the information/message to the viewer without the need of running commentary from the presenter. Obviously the presenter cannot mention every UK location in a 1min slot, and that is why the graphics should communicate the message rather than relying on the presenter to do so. I take issue with most people living in cities, with there being circa 60 million in the UK.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom Using the main UK cities London = 7.5m Glasgow = 0.5m Edinburgh = 0.4m Cardiff = 0.3m Belfast = 0.3m Birmingham = 1.0m Manchester = 0.5m (Inc Salford) Liverpool = 0.4m Sheffield = 0.5m Newcastle = 0.3m That leaves 48.3m living in the rest of the UK There's another million living in the area Bristol/Bath/Weston, and a similar number in Leeds/Bradford. |
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![]() There's another million living in the area Bristol/Bath/Weston, and a similar number in Leeds/Bradford.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I know, I'm just playing with numbers to make a point that most people do not live in the major cities listed above. Even if you start adding in all the cities of say 0.1m each, you have got to get down from 48.3m to 29.9m before the statment that most people in the UK live in cities is correct, and that is unlikely. |
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