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Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off? I've recently
noticed among certain friends and family that they frequently reply with the
word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions when they agree with what I am
saying. It is becoming as annoying as the "rising intonation" at the end of
sentences which was seems to have had its heyday. Is anyone else noticing
this or is it a local thing?

Dave

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Dave Cornwell wrote:
Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off? I've recently
noticed among certain friends and family that they frequently reply with the
word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions when they agree with what I am
saying. It is becoming as annoying as the "rising intonation" at the end of
sentences which was seems to have had its heyday. Is anyone else noticing
this or is it a local thing?


Absolutely.
Hard to miss, innit.


--
Gianna

http://www.buchan-meteo.org.uk
* * * * * * *

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On 5 Dec, 12:28, "Dave Cornwell"
wrote:
Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off? I've recently
noticed among certain friends and family that they frequently reply with the
word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions when they agree with what I am
saying. It is becoming as annoying as the "rising intonation" at the end of
sentences which was seems to have had its heyday. Is anyone else noticing
this or is it a local thing?

Dave

It is as annoying as the presenters on the BBC who say "ahead of"
instead of "before". Annoying Americanisms that have been creeping
into our language for decades

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In message
,
Scott W writes
On 5 Dec, 12:28, "Dave Cornwell"
wrote:
Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off? I've recently
noticed among certain friends and family that they frequently reply with the
word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions when they agree with what I am
saying. It is becoming as annoying as the "rising intonation" at the end of
sentences which was seems to have had its heyday. Is anyone else noticing
this or is it a local thing?

Dave

It is as annoying as the presenters on the BBC who say "ahead of"
instead of "before". Annoying Americanisms that have been creeping
into our language for decades


Very much so.


--
Peter Thomas

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Spot on, I totally agree!

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"Scott W" wrote in message
...
On 5 Dec, 12:28, "Dave Cornwell"
wrote:
Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off? I've
recently
noticed among certain friends and family that they frequently reply
with the
word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions when they agree with what
I am
saying. It is becoming as annoying as the "rising intonation" at
the end of
sentences which was seems to have had its heyday. Is anyone else
noticing
this or is it a local thing?

Dave

It is as annoying as the presenters on the BBC who say "ahead of"
instead of "before". Annoying Americanisms that have been creeping
into our language for decades


.... or even "exactly right" (what's the smiley for a groan?)

and how about 'going forward' - WS Gilbert would have had fun if he
was still around.



Martin.



--
Martin Rowley
E:
W: booty.org.uk

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Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off?
I've recently
noticed among certain friends and family that they frequently
reply with the
word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions when they agree with
what I am
saying. It is becoming as annoying as the "rising intonation"
at the end of
sentences which was seems to have had its heyday. Is anyone
else noticing
this or is it a local thing?

Dave

It is as annoying as the presenters on the BBC who say "ahead
of"
instead of "before". Annoying Americanisms that have been
creeping
into our language for decades

Not to mention 'prior to' instead of 'before'.

Anne

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It stems from TV and radio and the perceived abruptness of yes or no.

It's the new "basically"

The intonation, I think, is from North America where they use it to pose
a question when words are missed out that are crucial to the questioning
sentence.

brian
rainbows
aberfeldy

Dave Cornwell wrote:
Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off? I've recently
noticed among certain friends and family that they frequently reply with the
word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions when they agree with what I am
saying. It is becoming as annoying as the "rising intonation" at the end of
sentences which was seems to have had its heyday. Is anyone else noticing
this or is it a local thing?

Dave

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Dave Cornwell wrote:
Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off? I've recently
noticed among certain friends and family that they frequently reply with the
word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions when they agree with what I am
saying. It is becoming as annoying as the "rising intonation" at the end of
sentences which was seems to have had its heyday. Is anyone else noticing
this or is it a local thing?

Dave



Exactly.

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The intonation, I think, is from North America where they use it to pose a
question when words are missed out that are crucial to the questioning
sentence.

I think it was Stephen Fry who once put AQI (HRT in America) into Room 101.
It stands for Australian Questioning Intonation though I believe, as you
say, it originated in the States.

More he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_rising_terminal
________________
Nick G
Otter Valley, Devon
83 m amsl
http://www.ottervalley.co.uk

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On 5 Dec, 12:28, "Dave Cornwell"
wrote:
Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off? I've recently
noticed among certain friends and family that they frequently reply with the
word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions when they agree with what I am
saying. It is becoming as annoying as the "rising intonation" at the end of
sentences which was seems to have had its heyday. Is anyone else noticing
this or is it a local thing?

Dave

It's a fad. It will pass and something equally annoying will replace
it. My favourite peeve is the mockney or estuary accent which seems
to have originated amongst Radio DJs.

Martin

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On Dec 5, 12:37 pm, Scott W wrote:
On 5 Dec, 12:28, "Dave Cornwell"

wrote:
Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off? I've recently
noticed among certain friends and family that they frequently reply with the
word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions when they agree with what I am
saying. It is becoming as annoying as the "rising intonation" at the end of
sentences which was seems to have had its heyday. Is anyone else noticing
this or is it a local thing?

Dave

It is as annoying as the presenters on the BBC who say "ahead of"
instead of "before". Annoying Americanisms that have been creeping
into our language for decades

"Exactly" is not, er, exactly, new, though maybe it's
suddenly been re-activated. "Ahead of" is now swamping the airwaves,
I agree, which reminds me I must set the video ahead of going out and
scrape the frost off the windscreen ahead of driving so I can see, er,
ahead. The "rising intonation", aka "upspeak" or the "interrogative
moronic" does indeed seem to be less prevalent, and no bad thing
because it is really, really, like, annoying? It will probably die
out, going forward. Very much so, Des. ((c) M Lawrenson. )

Tudor Hughes

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Dave Cornwell wrote:
Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off? I've
recently noticed among certain friends and family that they
frequently reply with the word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions
when they agree with what I am saying. It is becoming as annoying as
the "rising intonation" at the end of sentences which was seems to
have had its heyday. Is anyone else noticing this or is it a local
thing?

How about 'massively' in the context 'that's not massively right' etc... - I
hear that a lot these days and hate it!

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On 5 Dec, 17:14, " cupra" wrote:
Dave Cornwell wrote:
Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off? I've
recently noticed among certain friends and family that they
frequently reply with the word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions
when they agree with what I am saying. It is becoming as annoying as
the "rising intonation" at the end of sentences which was seems to
have had its heyday. Is anyone else noticing this or is it a local
thing?

How about 'massively' in the context 'that's not massively right' etc... - I
hear that a lot these days and hate it!

"Fantastic" is fantastically over used by television reporters, and
visually, the repeated opening and clasping of hands whilst doing
their 'piece'. No doubt these techniques are taught at reporter
school!

CK

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Dave Cornwell wrote:
Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off? I've recently
noticed among certain friends and family that they frequently reply with the
word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions when they agree with what I am
saying. It is becoming as annoying as the "rising intonation" at the end of
sentences which was seems to have had its heyday. Is anyone else noticing
this or is it a local thing?

Dave



Language is a dynamic and evolving thing that changes with the times,
according to how we live. A high proportion of the population is exposed
to a great deal of exported American TV and Media; so we pick up these
language facets.

If Hollywood was in Yorkshire, then we would be saying "Aye up,
chuck..." all the time, instead.

This evolution is not necessarily a bad thing. If language hadn't
evolved through the middle ages, we would mainly be talking about
armies, battlefield tactics, types of arrows, and farming methods.

Change is a Good Thing :)

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On 5 Dec, 16:37, chris wrote:
Dave Cornwell wrote:
Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off? I've recently
noticed among certain friends and family that they frequently reply with the
word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions when they agree with what I am
saying. It is becoming as annoying as the "rising intonation" at the end of
sentences which was seems to have had its heyday. Is anyone else noticing
this or is it a local thing?

Dave

Language is a dynamic and evolving thing that changes with the times,
according to how we live. A high proportion of the population is exposed
to a great deal of exported American TV and Media; so we pick up these
language facets.

If Hollywood was in Yorkshire, then we would be saying "Aye up,
chuck..." all the time, instead.

This evolution is not necessarily a bad thing. If language hadn't
evolved through the middle ages, we would mainly be talking about
armies, battlefield tactics, types of arrows, and farming methods.

Change is a Good Thing :)

Yes, I agree, but my argument is that surely any change in language
should be making things simpler.

"Ahead of" uses more space and another syllable compared with
"before". Surely "before" should be the preferred method for these BBC
producers?

I read "downtown Baghdad" in a publication the other day (can't
remember where). What is wrong with "central Baghdad" - or just
Baghdad?

One last thing. Why do the Yanks "stand in line" when the Brits just
"queue"?

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Another one Dave, is when somebody is telling you something, how often do
they finish their sentence with? "Do you know what I mean" I feel like
saying "NO" because you are talking total crap!

Regards. Len.

"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
. uk...
Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off? I've recently
noticed among certain friends and family that they frequently reply with
the word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions when they agree with what I
am saying. It is becoming as annoying as the "rising intonation" at the
end of sentences which was seems to have had its heyday. Is anyone else
noticing this or is it a local thing?

Dave

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"Bonos Ego" wrote in message
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Spot on, I totally agree!

Exactly.

Will
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"GKN" wrote in message
. uk...
Another one Dave, is when somebody is telling you something, how often do
they finish their sentence with? "Do you know what I mean" I feel like
saying "NO" because you are talking total crap!

Regards. Len.
----------------------------
Unfortunately I can only dream of this many replies to one of my weather
questions ;-)

I know - exactly!

Dave

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My current bête noire is with the new (but incorrect!) pronunciation of
many words:

We now get:

- cultcha for culture
- lezja for leisure
- Lancasha for Lancashire
(and similar for all other counties ending in -shire)
- pleece for police

These not only come from broadcasters but also politicians (including
one former Prime Minister!).

I'm sure there are many others but they just don't come to mind at the
moment!


--
Mike LONGWORTH, Yateley, Hampshire, UK

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On Dec 5, 12:28 pm, "Dave Cornwell"
wrote:
Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off? I've recently
noticed among certain friends and family that they frequently reply with the
word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions when they agree with what I am
saying. It is becoming as annoying as the "rising intonation" at the end of
sentences which was seems to have had its heyday. Is anyone else noticing
this or is it a local thing?

Dave

Exactly....

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On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:56:31 GMT, Mike LONGWORTH
wrote:

Mike LONGWORTH, Yateley, Hampshire, UK

Hi from Eversley, 2 miles to your west!



--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
http://www.sandrila.co.uk/ http://www.pherber.com/

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On 5 Dec, 12:28, "Dave Cornwell"
wrote:
Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off? I've recently
noticed among certain friends and family that they frequently reply with the
word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions when they agree with what I am
saying. It is becoming as annoying as the "rising intonation" at the end of
sentences which was seems to have had its heyday. Is anyone else noticing
this or is it a local thing?

Dave

"Exactly" seems to have replaced the late 80s/early 90s "Absolutely",
which, I am horrified to say, I still find myself using; although in
my defence I used t use it satirically. Unfortunately, it seemed to
stick and now gets taken seriously.

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On 5 Dec, 20:56, Mike LONGWORTH wrote:
My current bête noire is with the new (but incorrect!) pronunciation of
many words:

We now get:

- cultcha for culture
- lezja for leisure
- Lancasha for Lancashire
(and similar for all other counties ending in -shire)
- pleece for police

--
Mike LONGWORTH, Yateley, Hampshire, UK

And "Febrooey" for February.

Also, has anybody else noticed that a lot of younger broadcasters (and
others) now seem peculiarly to pronounce "good" as "gid"? And shorten
other "oo" sounds similarly, in fact?

Finally, one thing that really "gets up my goat" is the constant use
of "refute" instead of "deny" or "rebut", even on the BBC.

Stephen.


P.S. Hello to Brian Blair, Norman Lynagh and Will Hand (a very long
time ago, though, Will!). Nice to "see" you all again.

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On 5 Dec, 16:37, chris wrote:

If Hollywood was in Yorkshire, then we would be saying "Aye up,
chuck..." all the time, instead.


.... and drinking Dandelion and Burdock instead of Coke. Which would
not be a bad thing.

Stephen.

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and for all the Radio Scotland listeners who wonder where exactly the A
"sivinty sivin" as is pronounced in Weegie Nasal Estuary


"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
...
On 5 Dec, 12:28, "Dave Cornwell"
wrote:
Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off? I've recently
noticed among certain friends and family that they frequently reply with
the
word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions when they agree with what I am
saying. It is becoming as annoying as the "rising intonation" at the end
of
sentences which was seems to have had its heyday. Is anyone else noticing
this or is it a local thing?

Dave

"Exactly" seems to have replaced the late 80s/early 90s "Absolutely",
which, I am horrified to say, I still find myself using; although in
my defence I used t use it satirically. Unfortunately, it seemed to
stick and now gets taken seriously.

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Scott W wrote in
:

It is as annoying as the presenters on the BBC who say "ahead of"
instead of "before". Annoying Americanisms that have been creeping
into our language for decades

Some of which Americanisms were Briticisms first, and so are really just
"returning home". "Normalcy" is a good example.

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.

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Mike LONGWORTH wrote in news:47570FDE.9040206
@ntlworld.com:

snip
- Lancasha for Lancashire
(and similar for all other counties ending in -shire)
snip

I've said "Woostuhshuh" all my life, and nobody's ever complained.
"Woostuhsheer" or "Woostuhshire" would sound affected in my accent.

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.

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"Dave Cornwell" wrote in
. uk:

Apologies for this but who else is there to bounce it off? I've
recently noticed among certain friends and family that they frequently
reply with the word "exactly" on those (rare) occasions when they
agree with what I am saying. It is becoming as annoying as the "rising
intonation" at the end of sentences which was seems to have had its
heyday. Is anyone else noticing this or is it a local thing?

I must admit I hadn't really registered the "exactly" thing. The one that I
find *really* noticeable is the near-total disappearance of the word
"might" in sentences such as:

Had it been raining, he might not have gone out that day.

These days, almost everybody seems to say:

Had it been raining, he *may* not have gone out that day.

That always sounds wrong to my ears, though I understand that the OED
allows it.

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.

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Stephen Davenport wrote:

On 5 Dec, 20:56, Mike LONGWORTH wrote:
My current bête noire is with the new (but incorrect!)
pronunciation of many words:

We now get:

- cultcha for culture
- lezja for leisure
- Lancasha for Lancashire
(and similar for all other counties ending in -shire)
- pleece for police

--
Mike LONGWORTH, Yateley, Hampshire, UK

And "Febrooey" for February.

Also, has anybody else noticed that a lot of younger broadcasters (and
others) now seem peculiarly to pronounce "good" as "gid"? And shorten
other "oo" sounds similarly, in fact?

Finally, one thing that really "gets up my goat" is the constant use
of "refute" instead of "deny" or "rebut", even on the BBC.

Stephen.


P.S. Hello to Brian Blair, Norman Lynagh and Will Hand (a very long
time ago, though, Will!). Nice to "see" you all again.


And hello to you, too, Steve. Nice to see an old new name on here, if
you see what I mean :-)

--
Norman Lynagh
Chalfont St Giles, Buckinghamshire
85m a.s.l.
(remove "thisbit" twice to e-mail)

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Stephen Davenport wrote:
On 5 Dec, 16:37, chris wrote:
If Hollywood was in Yorkshire, then we would be saying "Aye up,
chuck..." all the time, instead.


... and drinking Dandelion and Burdock instead of Coke. Which would
not be a bad thing.

Stephen.


I love Dandy and Burdock, I bought myself 3 dozens cans of it the other
day, with a meat pie !

--
Joe Egginton
Wolverhampton
175m asl

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David Buttery wrote:
Mike LONGWORTH wrote in news:47570FDE.9040206
@ntlworld.com:

snip
- Lancasha for Lancashire
(and similar for all other counties ending in -shire)
snip

I've said "Woostuhshuh" all my life, and nobody's ever complained.
"Woostuhsheer" or "Woostuhshire" would sound affected in my accent.


I say "Birmingum" for Birmingham. To spake it properly sounds strange!

--
Joe Egginton
Wolverhampton
175m asl

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Joe Egginton wrote:

David Buttery wrote:
Mike LONGWORTH wrote in
news:47570FDE.9040206 @ntlworld.com:

snip
- Lancasha for Lancashire
(and similar for all other counties ending in -shire)
snip

I've said "Woostuhshuh" all my life, and nobody's ever complained.
"Woostuhsheer" or "Woostuhshire" would sound affected in my accent.


I say "Birmingum" for Birmingham. To spake it properly sounds strange!


I say "Ruzhdun" for "Rushden". Before WWII, the pronunciation would have
been "Rizdin". Locals were mocked because of their odd pronunciation but
the original name of the town was Risdene, so their pronunciation was right
and it's the new spelling that's wrong. Other towns in East Northants are
similar in having the pronunciation reflecting original spellings. For
instance, Irthlingborough should be pronounced "Artleborough".

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman, not newsboy.
"What use is happiness? It can't buy you money." [Chic Murray, 1919-85]