"Norman" wrote in message
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Keith (Southend) wrote:

Something I mentioned to my Wife who was getting fed up with the cool
and wet weather of this spring was that it's a good sign for a better
summer. I then just stumbled across this from Philip Eden quoting
similar years which include 1975, 1976 and 1987 which I think were
probably some of the warmest summer months this century in the UK

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-a...LANG=en&MENU=E
xtra&JJ=2008&MM=03&TT=28&FILE=extra_ne.tit

Only last year April gave so many people a sence of a long hot summer
and then it all went terribly wrong. Looking at the trends in the
models April looks like being plagued with easterlies with most of
the rain in the south. A long way to go yet, but anyone wanting some
real summery weather will have to wait till May.

Just my personal thoughts.

Of course, it all depends on how you define "summery" :-)


19C and 60% RH is "summery" for Haytor.

Will
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On Mar 31, 6:09*pm, "Will Hand" wrote:
"Norman" wrote in message

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Keith (Southend) wrote:

Something I mentioned to my Wife who was getting fed up with the cool
and wet weather of this spring was that it's a good sign for a better
summer. I then just stumbled across this from Philip Eden quoting
similar years which include 1975, 1976 and 1987 which I think were
probably some of the warmest summer months this century in the UK

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-a...LANG=en&MENU=E
xtra&JJ=2008&MM=03&TT=28&FILE=extra_ne.tit

Only last year April gave so many people a sence of a long hot summer
and then it all went terribly wrong. Looking at the trends in the
models April looks like being plagued with easterlies with most of
the rain in the south. A long way to go yet, but anyone wanting some
real summery weather will have to wait till May.

Just my personal thoughts.

Of course, it all depends on how you define "summery" :-)

19C and 60% RH is "summery" for Haytor.

Will
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Hi all,

You are not kidding about 19C and 60% humidity being "summery" for
Haytor, Will! Good grief, I've been up there in some awful weather in
all months! As far as my own views stand about the coming summer; we
have no idea what the summer will be like at this stage, apart from
looking at hindsight statistrics over the last 20/25 years since the
UK began to respond to GW. There isn't a forecaster, or forecasting
agency that can predict with accuracy a combination of warmer/cooler
than average temps and wetter/drier than average precipitation amounts
for the UK. Precipitation is absolutely impossible. Temperature, on
the other hand......

I'd only offer odds of 2/9 that this summer's CET will prove warmer
than average. I'd put the actual odds at closer to 2/7, but being a
natural bookie, rather than a gambler, the offer is only 1/5.

I'd offer 7/2 that the summer will be cooler than average. Again, I'd
put the actual odds, in this warming trend, as a little higher than
that, but the bookie in me wins again. My odds have shifted a little
from last year. A one year cooler-than-average trend (can you have a
one-year trend??) has just made me slightly wary, but it's only a
slight change on the 4/1 I was offering last year. (don't worry, it's
not burned fingers, the last 20+ years have left me well in pocket -
I'm owed a virtual brewery still from the winter before last!)

I despair about long-term forecasting and the "advances" made over the
last 30 years since my interest developed to actual recording.
Presently, long-term forecasting is not capable of predicting the
actual summer weather. Any hunches, feelings, hopes, based on anything
else, except temperatures and hindsight examination of what's been
happening to the summer CET over the last quarter of a century, is
exactly that.....hunches, feelings and hopes. same for the forecasts
for next winter.

A bit depressing, in forecasting terms, isn't it?

Paul

PS Hi to anyone that knows me!

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:13:45 +0100, Keith (Southend) wrote:

Something I mentioned to my Wife who was getting fed up with the cool
and wet weather of this spring was that it's a good sign for a better
summer. I then just stumbled across this from Philip Eden quoting
similar years which include 1975, 1976 and 1987 which I think were
probably some of the warmest summer months this century in the UK

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-a...E=extra_ne.tit

Only last year April gave so many people a sence of a long hot summer
and then it all went terribly wrong. Looking at the trends in the models
April looks like being plagued with easterlies with most of the rain in
the south. A long way to go yet, but anyone wanting some real summery
weather will have to wait till May.

Just my personal thoughts.

My daughter is convinced it will be a fine summer as she will be back in
the office after returning from maternity leave. The office is unbearably
hot in warm weather which she finds particularly unpleasant.

Alan

On Apr 1, 9:46 am, Alan Gardiner wrote:
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:13:45 +0100, Keith (Southend) wrote:
Something I mentioned to my Wife who was getting fed up with the cool
and wet weather of this spring was that it's a good sign for a better
summer. I then just stumbled across this from Philip Eden quoting
similar years which include 1975, 1976 and 1987 which I think were
probably some of the warmest summer months this century in the UK

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-a...&LANG=en&MENU=...

Only last year April gave so many people a sence of a long hot summer
and then it all went terribly wrong. Looking at the trends in the models
April looks like being plagued with easterlies with most of the rain in
the south. A long way to go yet, but anyone wanting some real summery
weather will have to wait till May.

Just my personal thoughts.

My daughter is convinced it will be a fine summer as she will be back in
the office after returning from maternity leave. The office is unbearably
hot in warm weather which she finds particularly unpleasant.

Alan

Whereas weather tends to be persistent with a high probability of
tomorrow's weather being similar to today's, and a good season
following a good season, on a annual basis this appears to me to be
the converse of the truth. Inspecting the CET record, it seems that
if last year's temperature was higher than the previous year then this
year's temperature will be lower than last year, and vice versa. Thus
since 2007 was cooler than 2006, then 2008 should be warmer than
2007.

This reversing trend seems to be even more true where one is
considering months.All the months June, July, August and September
were cooler in 2007 than in 2006, therefore I am predicting that they
will be warmer than 2007 this year. There'll be a hot summer in
central England this year!

Where do place my bet, Paul?

Cheers, Alastair.

On Apr 1, 4:58*pm, Alastair wrote:
On Apr 1, 9:46 am, Alan Gardiner wrote:





On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:13:45 +0100, Keith (Southend) wrote:
Something I mentioned to my Wife who was getting fed up with the cool
and wet weather of this spring was that it's a good sign for a better
summer. I then just stumbled across this from Philip Eden quoting
similar years which include 1975, 1976 and 1987 which I think were
probably some of the warmest summer months this century in the UK

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-a...&LANG=en&MENU=...

Only last year April gave so many people a sence of a long hot summer
and then it all went terribly wrong. Looking at the trends in the models
April looks like being plagued with easterlies with most of the rain in
the south. A long way to go yet, but anyone wanting some real summery
weather will have to wait till May.

Just my personal thoughts.

My daughter is convinced it will be a fine summer as she will be back in
the office after returning from maternity leave. The office is unbearably
hot in warm weather which she finds particularly unpleasant.

Alan

Whereas weather tends to be persistent with a high probability of
tomorrow's weather being similar to today's, and a good season
following a good season, on a annual basis this appears to me to be
the converse of the truth. * Inspecting the CET record, it seems that
if last year's temperature was higher than the previous year then this
year's temperature will be lower than last year, and vice versa. Thus
since 2007 was cooler than 2006, then 2008 should be warmer than
2007.

This reversing trend seems to be even more true where one is
considering months.All the months June, July, August and September
were cooler in 2007 than in 2006, therefore I am predicting that they
will be warmer than 2007 this year. *There'll be a hot summer in
central England this year!

Where do place my bet, Paul?

Cheers, Alastair.- Hide quoted text -

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Ha! All in virtual tipples Alistair! All for fun. 9 pints to win 2.
I'll pay out after the summer. Your reasoning is good, I reckon.

I like the element of "play your cards right" in your statistics. Call
lower after higher. You'll win more times than you lose, but there's
still that warming trend to contend with, which has produced more
warmer years (higher cards) than one might expect and more thus
unexpectedly even warmer years than the warm year previous. Since
1985, an even cooler summer, following a cooler summer is a rarity. No
the same with an even warmer summer following a warmer one - not
common, but less of a rarity. For the coming summer,

I would think it is a much better call to call warmer after cooler
than it is to call cooler after slightly cooler, in the present
warming climate, but I still hold to the position that it is not
possible to call wetter, or drier, and thus no-one could even call,
say "warmer and drier" with any long-term accuracy. Anything more
detailed than that, eg August will be much warmer/coooler than
average, with LRF in its present state, is no more than an inspired
guess, IMO, whatever convincing-looking pre-season reasoning is
employed. The Met Office's hopeless precipitation forecast before the
record-breaking wetness of 2007, fits that assertion.

Paul

On Apr 1, 5:30 pm, Dawlish wrote:
On Apr 1, 4:58 pm, Alastair wrote:



On Apr 1, 9:46 am, Alan Gardiner wrote:

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:13:45 +0100, Keith (Southend) wrote:
Something I mentioned to my Wife who was getting fed up with the cool
and wet weather of this spring was that it's a good sign for a better
summer. I then just stumbled across this from Philip Eden quoting
similar years which include 1975, 1976 and 1987 which I think were
probably some of the warmest summer months this century in the UK

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-a...&LANG=en&MENU=...

Only last year April gave so many people a sence of a long hot summer
and then it all went terribly wrong. Looking at the trends in the models
April looks like being plagued with easterlies with most of the rain in
the south. A long way to go yet, but anyone wanting some real summery
weather will have to wait till May.

Just my personal thoughts.

My daughter is convinced it will be a fine summer as she will be back in
the office after returning from maternity leave. The office is unbearably
hot in warm weather which she finds particularly unpleasant.

Alan

Whereas weather tends to be persistent with a high probability of
tomorrow's weather being similar to today's, and a good season
following a good season, on a annual basis this appears to me to be
the converse of the truth. Inspecting the CET record, it seems that
if last year's temperature was higher than the previous year then this
year's temperature will be lower than last year, and vice versa. Thus
since 2007 was cooler than 2006, then 2008 should be warmer than
2007.

This reversing trend seems to be even more true where one is
considering months.All the months June, July, August and September
were cooler in 2007 than in 2006, therefore I am predicting that they
will be warmer than 2007 this year. There'll be a hot summer in
central England this year!

Where do place my bet, Paul?

Cheers, Alastair.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ha! All in virtual tipples Alistair! All for fun. 9 pints to win 2.
I'll pay out after the summer. Your reasoning is good, I reckon.

I like the element of "play your cards right" in your statistics. Call
lower after higher. You'll win more times than you lose, but there's
still that warming trend to contend with, which has produced more
warmer years (higher cards) than one might expect and more thus
unexpectedly even warmer years than the warm year previous. Since
1985, an even cooler summer, following a cooler summer is a rarity. No
the same with an even warmer summer following a warmer one - not
common, but less of a rarity. For the coming summer,

I would think it is a much better call to call warmer after cooler
than it is to call cooler after slightly cooler, in the present
warming climate, but I still hold to the position that it is not
possible to call wetter, or drier, and thus no-one could even call,
say "warmer and drier" with any long-term accuracy. Anything more
detailed than that, eg August will be much warmer/coooler than
average, with LRF in its present state, is no more than an inspired
guess, IMO, whatever convincing-looking pre-season reasoning is
employed. The Met Office's hopeless precipitation forecast before the
record-breaking wetness of 2007, fits that assertion.

Paul

Hi Paul,

After I sent my post, I wondered if the oscillation was a mathematical
inevitability, That was not what inspired my thinking.

During the sixties I noticed that good summers seemed to follow bad
summers, and when I mentioned this to a German he said he had thought
that too about the weather in Gemany. Also, at that time is was
believed that the best vintages of French wine.were from odd numbered
years. Of course it a biennial oscillation is a mathematial certainty
then those anecdotes are not surprising.

There is more technical evidence for this thogh. There is a little
known quasi-biennial oscilation in the stratosphere with a period of
about 27 months. This seems to have an effect on the Arctic
Oscillation, so it could be responsible for this quasi-oscillation I
am describing. Also, there was a report on this newgroup that the
annual temperature from the CET centred around two peaks. That would
be explained if there was a biennial oscillation.

Of course with globasl warming happening, then I am on a "dead cert"
predicting a hotter summer this year when the last was one of the
coolest in the last ten years. On the other hand, we are still in a
solar minimum, so although I would like to predict a nother 100 F
temperature, it would be rathre rash at this stage in the solar
cycle.

To a large extent summer tempeatures are controlled by cloud cover,
ansd so if we have a hot summer there will be no clouds and even less
rain. So despite your reservations I am saying it will be drier this
summer too.

Now, where do I have to go to collect my winnings? Or do you want to
come to sunny Dorset and try out one of our country pubs? But you
might find that expensive if Martin Rowley and others down here decide
to join us.

Cheers, Alastair.

On Apr 2, 10:03*am, Alastair wrote:
On Apr 1, 5:30 pm, Dawlish wrote:





On Apr 1, 4:58 pm, Alastair wrote:

On Apr 1, 9:46 am, Alan Gardiner wrote:

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:13:45 +0100, Keith (Southend) wrote:
Something I mentioned to my Wife who was getting fed up with the cool
and wet weather of this spring was that it's a good sign for a better
summer. I then just stumbled across this from Philip Eden quoting
similar years which include 1975, 1976 and 1987 which I think were
probably some of the warmest summer months this century in the UK

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-a...&LANG=en&MENU=...

Only last year April gave so many people a sence of a long hot summer
and then it all went terribly wrong. Looking at the trends in the models
April looks like being plagued with easterlies with most of the rain in
the south. A long way to go yet, but anyone wanting some real summery
weather will have to wait till May.

Just my personal thoughts.

My daughter is convinced it will be a fine summer as she will be back in
the office after returning from maternity leave. The office is unbearably
hot in warm weather which she finds particularly unpleasant.

Alan

Whereas weather tends to be persistent with a high probability of
tomorrow's weather being similar to today's, and a good season
following a good season, on a annual basis this appears to me to be
the converse of the truth. * Inspecting the CET record, it seems that
if last year's temperature was higher than the previous year then this
year's temperature will be lower than last year, and vice versa. Thus
since 2007 was cooler than 2006, then 2008 should be warmer than
2007.

This reversing trend seems to be even more true where one is
considering months.All the months June, July, August and September
were cooler in 2007 than in 2006, therefore I am predicting that they
will be warmer than 2007 this year. *There'll be a hot summer in
central England this year!

Where do place my bet, Paul?

Cheers, Alastair.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ha! All in virtual tipples Alistair! All for fun. 9 pints to win 2.
I'll pay out after the summer. Your reasoning is good, I reckon.

I like the element of "play your cards right" in your statistics. Call
lower after higher. You'll win more times than you lose, but there's
still that warming trend to contend with, which has produced more
warmer years (higher cards) than one might expect and more thus
unexpectedly even warmer years than the warm year previous. Since
1985, an even cooler summer, following a cooler summer is a rarity. No
the same with an even warmer summer following a warmer one - not
common, but less of a rarity. For the coming summer,

I would think it is a much better call to call warmer after cooler
than it is to call cooler after slightly cooler, in the present
warming climate, but I still hold to the position that it is not
possible to call wetter, or drier, and thus no-one could even call,
say "warmer and drier" with any long-term accuracy. Anything more
detailed than that, eg August will be much warmer/coooler than
average, with LRF in its present state, is no more than an inspired
guess, IMO, whatever convincing-looking pre-season reasoning is
employed. The Met Office's hopeless precipitation forecast before the
record-breaking wetness of 2007, fits that assertion.

Paul

Hi Paul,

After I sent my post, I wondered if the oscillation was a mathematical
inevitability, That was not what inspired my thinking.

During the sixties I noticed that good summers seemed to follow bad
summers, and when I mentioned this to a German he said he had thought
that too about the weather in Gemany. Also, at that time is was
believed that the best vintages of French wine.were from odd numbered
years. *Of course it a biennial oscillation is a mathematial certainty
then those anecdotes are not surprising.

There is more technical evidence for this thogh. *There is a little
known quasi-biennial oscilation in the stratosphere with a period of
about 27 months. *This seems to have an effect on the Arctic
Oscillation, so it could be responsible for this quasi-oscillation I
am describing. Also, there was a report on this newgroup that the
annual temperature from the CET centred around two peaks. *That would
be explained if there was a biennial oscillation.

Of course with globasl warming happening, then I am on a "dead cert"
predicting a hotter summer this year when the last was one of the
coolest in the last ten years. On the other hand, we are still in a
solar minimum, so although I would like to predict a nother 100 F
temperature, it would be rathre rash at this stage in the solar
cycle.

To a large extent summer tempeatures are controlled by cloud cover,
ansd so if we have a hot summer there will be no clouds and even less
rain. *So despite your reservations I am saying it will be drier this
summer too.

Now, where do I have to go to collect my winnings? Or do you want to
come to sunny Dorset and try out one of our country pubs? *But you
might find that expensive if Martin Rowley and others down here decide
to join us.

Cheers, Alastair.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Good meteorology Alistair, though I would question the validity if the
biennial oscillation. I haven't seen that statistically proven in the
literature! Also, I don't accept that stratospheric temperature
changes can cause changes in tropospheric, or surface changes at a
particular location, the research doesn't support that, though I would
accept that there is a clear relationship between stratospheric
changes in temperature and a tropospheric reaction. That, I feel, is
proven. The difficulty of linking a warming of the stratosphere with a
cooling at the surface, or in the troposphere, at a given location has
been amply demonstrated this winter, when observed SSWs (Sudden
Stratospheric Warming events) late in the winter did nothing to reduce
the late winter warmth in the UK. I'd advise extreme caution in
applying that line of reasoning to forecasting for a given
area.....though it hasn't stopped some doing exacty that and proposing
a cold end to the winter as a result. It simply didn't happen. Easter
was colder, but that was early Spring. February Winnings can be
collected at the Smuggler's Inn, down the road from me in Dawlish. I'd
be happy to see you and pay out if you won! (Conversely, I'd be even
happier to see you and collect, if you lost!).

Regards, Paul

Alastair wrote:

On Apr 1, 9:46 am, Alan Gardiner wrote:
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:13:45 +0100, Keith (Southend) wrote:
Something I mentioned to my Wife who was getting fed up with the cool
and wet weather of this spring was that it's a good sign for a better
summer. I then just stumbled across this from Philip Eden quoting
similar years which include 1975, 1976 and 1987 which I think were
probably some of the warmest summer months this century in the UK

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-a...&LANG=en&MENU=...

Only last year April gave so many people a sence of a long hot summer
and then it all went terribly wrong. Looking at the trends in the
models April looks like being plagued with easterlies with most of the
rain in the south. A long way to go yet, but anyone wanting some real
summery weather will have to wait till May.

Just my personal thoughts.

My daughter is convinced it will be a fine summer as she will be back in
the office after returning from maternity leave. The office is unbearably
hot in warm weather which she finds particularly unpleasant.

Alan

Whereas weather tends to be persistent with a high probability of
tomorrow's weather being similar to today's, and a good season
following a good season, on a annual basis this appears to me to be
the converse of the truth. Inspecting the CET record, it seems that
if last year's temperature was higher than the previous year then this
year's temperature will be lower than last year, and vice versa. Thus
since 2007 was cooler than 2006, then 2008 should be warmer than
2007.

This reversing trend seems to be even more true where one is
considering months.All the months June, July, August and September
were cooler in 2007 than in 2006, therefore I am predicting that they
will be warmer than 2007 this year. There'll be a hot summer in
central England this year!

Where do place my bet, Paul?


I used similar arguments at the end of the '75 summer to confidently predict
that '76 would be a cold, wet summer!


--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman, not newsboy.
"What use is happiness? It can't buy you money." [Chic Murray, 1919-85]

On Apr 4, 7:35 am, Graham P Davis wrote:
Alastair wrote:
On Apr 1, 9:46 am, Alan Gardiner wrote:
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:13:45 +0100, Keith (Southend) wrote:
Something I mentioned to my Wife who was getting fed up with the cool
and wet weather of this spring was that it's a good sign for a better
summer. I then just stumbled across this from Philip Eden quoting
similar years which include 1975, 1976 and 1987 which I think were
probably some of the warmest summer months this century in the UK

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-a...&LANG=en&MENU=...

Only last year April gave so many people a sence of a long hot summer
and then it all went terribly wrong. Looking at the trends in the
models April looks like being plagued with easterlies with most of the
rain in the south. A long way to go yet, but anyone wanting some real
summery weather will have to wait till May.

Just my personal thoughts.

My daughter is convinced it will be a fine summer as she will be back in
the office after returning from maternity leave. The office is unbearably
hot in warm weather which she finds particularly unpleasant.

Alan

Whereas weather tends to be persistent with a high probability of
tomorrow's weather being similar to today's, and a good season
following a good season, on a annual basis this appears to me to be
the converse of the truth. Inspecting the CET record, it seems that
if last year's temperature was higher than the previous year then this
year's temperature will be lower than last year, and vice versa. Thus
since 2007 was cooler than 2006, then 2008 should be warmer than
2007.

This reversing trend seems to be even more true where one is
considering months.All the months June, July, August and September
were cooler in 2007 than in 2006, therefore I am predicting that they
will be warmer than 2007 this year. There'll be a hot summer in
central England this year!

Where do place my bet, Paul?

I used similar arguments at the end of the '75 summer to confidently predict
that '76 would be a cold, wet summer!

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman, not newsboy.
"What use is happiness? It can't buy you money." [Chic Murray, 1919-85]

Yes, I am wondering if the cold wet summer last year could be
exceeded. This piece of news has not helped.

GLOBAL WARMING 'DIPS THIS YEAR''

By Roger Harrabin
BBC News environment analyst

Villager walks through the snow in Nanjing, China (February 2008)
La Nina caused some of the coldest temperatures in memory in China

Global temperatures will drop slightly this year as a result of the
cooling effect of the La Nina current in the Pacific, UN
meteorologists have said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7329799.stm

Still, never mind, win or lose I can still warm myself up with a pint
of Tanglefoot In the Smugglers.

Cheers, Alastair.

at could be repeated

On Apr 4, 3:23*pm, Alastair wrote:
On Apr 4, 7:35 am, Graham P Davis wrote:





Alastair wrote:
On Apr 1, 9:46 am, Alan Gardiner wrote:
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:13:45 +0100, Keith (Southend) wrote:
Something I mentioned to my Wife who was getting fed up with the cool
and wet weather of this spring was that it's a good sign for a better
summer. I then just stumbled across this from Philip Eden quoting
similar years which include 1975, 1976 and 1987 which I think were
probably some of the warmest summer months this century in the UK

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-a...&LANG=en&MENU=...

Only last year April gave so many people a sence of a long hot summer
and then it all went terribly wrong. Looking at the trends in the
models April looks like being plagued with easterlies with most of the
rain in the south. A long way to go yet, but anyone wanting some real
summery weather will have to wait till May.

Just my personal thoughts.

My daughter is convinced it will be a fine summer as she will be back in
the office after returning from maternity leave. The office is unbearably
hot in warm weather which she finds particularly unpleasant.

Alan

Whereas weather tends to be persistent with a high probability of
tomorrow's weather being similar to today's, and a good season
following a good season, on a annual basis this appears to me to be
the converse of the truth. * Inspecting the CET record, it seems that
if last year's temperature was higher than the previous year then this
year's temperature will be lower than last year, and vice versa. Thus
since 2007 was cooler than 2006, then 2008 should be warmer than
2007.

This reversing trend seems to be even more true where one is
considering months.All the months June, July, August and September
were cooler in 2007 than in 2006, therefore I am predicting that they
will be warmer than 2007 this year. *There'll be a hot summer in
central England this year!

Where do place my bet, Paul?

I used similar arguments at the end of the '75 summer to confidently predict
that '76 would be a cold, wet summer!

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. * *E-mail: newsman, not newsboy.
"What use is happiness? It can't buy you money." *[Chic Murray, 1919-85]

Yes, I am wondering if the cold wet summer last year could be
exceeded. *This piece of news has not helped.

GLOBAL WARMING 'DIPS THIS YEAR''

By Roger Harrabin
BBC News environment analyst

Villager walks through the snow in Nanjing, China (February 2008)
La Nina caused some of the coldest temperatures in memory in China

Global temperatures will drop slightly this year as a result of the
cooling effect of the La Nina current in the Pacific, UN
meteorologists have said.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7329799.stm

Still, never mind, win or lose I can still warm myself up with a pint
of Tanglefoot In the Smugglers.

Cheers, Alastair.

at could be repeated- Hide quoted text -

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Well, "will it snow".

Noses on the windows and lamp posts chosen and under surveiilance for
if the showers come after dark in a night-time trough.! The Met Office
have "improved" their advisory to include everyone and his dog in a
chance of a snow shower. I'd like to see a snow shower or several in
Dawlish and maybe some snow lying for an hour in the hedgerows up on
the Haldon Hills, but I'd rather it have been in the winter, rather
than in April, to add a poersonal note! My garden is cloaked in Spring
loveliness and a cold Northerly doesn't induce the desire to go out
and hoe it madly. Also, I'm having the house painted on Monday, but
that will only be me getting cold when I take out the cups of tea to
the painter! The coming week should provide enough dryness to get it
well under way and we might get lucky, being on a coast, generally
sheltered from the coming colder winds, and get very little
precipitation in the early part of the week. Later in the week looks
more unsettled - but not snowy. Cold mornings early next week and some
ice-scraping to do for those at work (heh, heh!)

Chances of snow here? Better than the chances of my only bet of the
year winning the National at 20/1. Unfortunately, I'm unlikely to see
either pass either the winning post, or the lamp post - as usual!

Hedgehunter to win the National again. Great horse, great jockey,
weighted down, but running on good ground. Snow for me on Sunday
morning!

Paul