"Dawlish" wrote in message
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On Apr 4, 3:23 pm, Alastair wrote:
On Apr 4, 7:35 am, Graham P Davis wrote:





Alastair wrote:
On Apr 1, 9:46 am, Alan Gardiner wrote:
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:13:45 +0100, Keith (Southend) wrote:
Something I mentioned to my Wife who was getting fed up with the
cool
and wet weather of this spring was that it's a good sign for a
better
summer. I then just stumbled across this from Philip Eden quoting
similar years which include 1975, 1976 and 1987 which I think were
probably some of the warmest summer months this century in the UK


http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-a...&LANG=en&MENU=...

Only last year April gave so many people a sence of a long hot
summer
and then it all went terribly wrong. Looking at the trends in the
models April looks like being plagued with easterlies with most of
the
rain in the south. A long way to go yet, but anyone wanting some
real
summery weather will have to wait till May.

Just my personal thoughts.

My daughter is convinced it will be a fine summer as she will be back
in
the office after returning from maternity leave. The office is
unbearably
hot in warm weather which she finds particularly unpleasant.

Alan

Whereas weather tends to be persistent with a high probability of
tomorrow's weather being similar to today's, and a good season
following a good season, on a annual basis this appears to me to be
the converse of the truth. Inspecting the CET record, it seems that
if last year's temperature was higher than the previous year then this
year's temperature will be lower than last year, and vice versa. Thus
since 2007 was cooler than 2006, then 2008 should be warmer than
2007.

This reversing trend seems to be even more true where one is
considering months.All the months June, July, August and September
were cooler in 2007 than in 2006, therefore I am predicting that they
will be warmer than 2007 this year. There'll be a hot summer in
central England this year!

Where do place my bet, Paul?

I used similar arguments at the end of the '75 summer to confidently
predict
that '76 would be a cold, wet summer!

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman, not newsboy.
"What use is happiness? It can't buy you money." [Chic Murray, 1919-85]

Yes, I am wondering if the cold wet summer last year could be
exceeded. This piece of news has not helped.

GLOBAL WARMING 'DIPS THIS YEAR''

By Roger Harrabin
BBC News environment analyst

Villager walks through the snow in Nanjing, China (February 2008)
La Nina caused some of the coldest temperatures in memory in China

Global temperatures will drop slightly this year as a result of the
cooling effect of the La Nina current in the Pacific, UN
meteorologists have said.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7329799.stm

Still, never mind, win or lose I can still warm myself up with a pint
of Tanglefoot In the Smugglers.

Cheers, Alastair.

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Well, "will it snow".

Noses on the windows and lamp posts chosen and under surveiilance for
if the showers come after dark in a night-time trough.! The Met Office
have "improved" their advisory to include everyone and his dog in a
chance of a snow shower. I'd like to see a snow shower or several in
Dawlish and maybe some snow lying for an hour in the hedgerows up on
the Haldon Hills, but I'd rather it have been in the winter, rather
than in April, to add a poersonal note! My garden is cloaked in Spring
loveliness and a cold Northerly doesn't induce the desire to go out
and hoe it madly. Also, I'm having the house painted on Monday, but
that will only be me getting cold when I take out the cups of tea to
the painter! The coming week should provide enough dryness to get it
well under way and we might get lucky, being on a coast, generally
sheltered from the coming colder winds, and get very little
precipitation in the early part of the week. Later in the week looks
more unsettled - but not snowy. Cold mornings early next week and some
ice-scraping to do for those at work (heh, heh!)

Chances of snow here? Better than the chances of my only bet of the
year winning the National at 20/1. Unfortunately, I'm unlikely to see
either pass either the winning post, or the lamp post - as usual!

Hedgehunter to win the National again. Great horse, great jockey,
weighted down, but running on good ground. Snow for me on Sunday
morning!

Paul

========

Hi Paul,

I can see the whole of the Haldon ridge above Teignmouth from my house,
quite noticeable, even at that modest altitude how much snow it gets at the
top round the golf course (260m asl). We are certain to get snow up here in
Haytor (as always), usual question of how much, will it be the normal 1
inch cover with 2-4 inches higher up or possibly a bit more this time?

Temp +5.4C and steady at 0915.

Will (Haytor, Devon, 310m asl)
--

On Apr 5, 9:17*am, "Will Hand" wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message

...
On Apr 4, 3:23 pm, Alastair wrote:





On Apr 4, 7:35 am, Graham P Davis wrote:

Alastair wrote:
On Apr 1, 9:46 am, Alan Gardiner wrote:
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:13:45 +0100, Keith (Southend) wrote:
Something I mentioned to my Wife who was getting fed up with the
cool
and wet weather of this spring was that it's a good sign for a
better
summer. I then just stumbled across this from Philip Eden quoting
similar years which include 1975, 1976 and 1987 which I think were
probably some of the warmest summer months this century in the UK

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-a...&LANG=en&MENU=...

Only last year April gave so many people a sence of a long hot
summer
and then it all went terribly wrong. Looking at the trends in the
models April looks like being plagued with easterlies with most of
the
rain in the south. A long way to go yet, but anyone wanting some
real
summery weather will have to wait till May.

Just my personal thoughts.

My daughter is convinced it will be a fine summer as she will be back
in
the office after returning from maternity leave. The office is
unbearably
hot in warm weather which she finds particularly unpleasant.

Alan

Whereas weather tends to be persistent with a high probability of
tomorrow's weather being similar to today's, and a good season
following a good season, on a annual basis this appears to me to be
the converse of the truth. Inspecting the CET record, it seems that
if last year's temperature was higher than the previous year then this
year's temperature will be lower than last year, and vice versa. Thus
since 2007 was cooler than 2006, then 2008 should be warmer than
2007.

This reversing trend seems to be even more true where one is
considering months.All the months June, July, August and September
were cooler in 2007 than in 2006, therefore I am predicting that they
will be warmer than 2007 this year. There'll be a hot summer in
central England this year!

Where do place my bet, Paul?

I used similar arguments at the end of the '75 summer to confidently
predict
that '76 would be a cold, wet summer!

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman, not newsboy.
"What use is happiness? It can't buy you money." [Chic Murray, 1919-85]

Yes, I am wondering if the cold wet summer last year could be
exceeded. This piece of news has not helped.

GLOBAL WARMING 'DIPS THIS YEAR''

By Roger Harrabin
BBC News environment analyst

Villager walks through the snow in Nanjing, China (February 2008)
La Nina caused some of the coldest temperatures in memory in China

Global temperatures will drop slightly this year as a result of the
cooling effect of the La Nina current in the Pacific, UN
meteorologists have said.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7329799.stm

Still, never mind, win or lose I can still warm myself up with a pint
of Tanglefoot In the Smugglers.

Cheers, Alastair.

at could be repeated- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, "will it snow".

Noses on the windows and lamp posts chosen and under surveiilance for
if the showers come after dark in a night-time trough.! The Met Office
have "improved" their advisory to include everyone and his dog in a
chance of a snow shower. I'd like to see a snow shower or several in
Dawlish and maybe some snow lying for an hour in the hedgerows up on
the Haldon Hills, but I'd rather it have been in the winter, rather
than in April, to add a poersonal note! My garden is cloaked in Spring
loveliness and a cold Northerly doesn't induce the desire to go out
and hoe it madly. Also, I'm having the house painted on Monday, but
that will only be me getting cold when I take out the cups of tea to
the painter! *The coming week should provide enough dryness to get it
well under way and we might get lucky, being on a coast, generally
sheltered from the coming colder winds, and get very little
precipitation in the early part of the week. Later in the week looks
more unsettled - but not snowy. Cold mornings early next week and some
ice-scraping to do for those at work (heh, heh!)

Chances of snow here? Better than the chances of my only bet of the
year winning the National at 20/1. Unfortunately, I'm unlikely to see
either pass either the winning post, or the lamp post - as usual!

Hedgehunter to win the National again. Great horse, great jockey,
weighted down, but running on good ground. Snow for me on Sunday
morning!

Paul

========

Hi Paul,

I can see the whole of the Haldon ridge above Teignmouth from my house,
quite noticeable, even at that modest altitude how much snow it gets at the
top round the golf course (260m asl). We are certain to get snow up here in
Haytor (as always), usual question of how much, will it be the normal 1
inch cover with 2-4 inches higher up or possibly a bit more this time?

Temp +5.4C and steady at 0915.

Will (Haytor, Devon, 310m asl)
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That 200m can mae a lot of difference in snow accumulations, Will, but
I've just realised that I've posted talk of snow this weekend and into
next week, on a summer thread!!

Apologies. Problems of a UK Sci novice! I've transferred my snow
comments to the correct thread, but there seems to be no way to erase
my post on here, so we're stuck with it!

Paul