On Jul 5, 4:00*pm, "Jon O'Rourke" wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message

...

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I'm sure all the review's recommendations will be followed up in due course
and the recent establishment of the 24/7 "Wet Bench" in the Operations
Centre, prior the reports release, will further help. BBC report on this
from Junehttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7453522.stmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7454388.stm

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Jon.

Probably the worst weather of the afternoon so far. Driving rain and a
force 6, gusting force 7/8 Southerly. Nothing severe, either in
rainfall, or in wind speeds, but high tide is still 4 hours away. The
key to the severity will be in the interaction of weather and sea
around high tide.

With luck my water butts will be full by the end of the afternoon.
Water collection going very well and the water collection vessels have
not been blown across the garden (yet). Now all I need is some warm
and dry weather to use the collected water!

Paul

On 5 Jul, 16:16, Dawlish wrote:
On Jul 5, 4:00*pm, "Jon O'Rourke" wrote:





"Dawlish" wrote in message

....

snip

I'm sure all the review's recommendations will be followed up in due course
and the recent establishment of the 24/7 "Wet Bench" in the Operations
Centre, prior the reports release, will further help. BBC report on this
from Junehttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7453522.stmhttp://news.bbc..co.uk/...

As before, keep the feedback/suggestions coming tohttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/contact/contact.html

In the mean time you might find the warnings panel here helpfulhttp://www.metbrief.com/obs.html

Jon.

Probably the worst weather of the afternoon so far. Driving rain and a
force 6, gusting force 7/8 Southerly. Nothing severe, either in
rainfall, or in wind speeds, but high tide is still 4 hours away. The
key to the severity will be in the interaction of weather and sea
around high tide.

With luck my water butts will be full by the end of the afternoon.
Water collection going very well and the water collection vessels have
not been blown across the garden (yet). Now all I need is some warm
and dry weather to use the collected water!

Paul- Hide quoted text -

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Well, wind's not gale force in the Channel, or on exposed headlands
(say Culdrose - Force 6, or Portland Force 5) and the tide's not that
big, and the swell's not that large, peaked at 15' at Sevenstones (was
15'-18' when we went on that RIB Alan), so can't see why there should
be any problems, with the possible exception of trains getting
splashed at Dawlish.

Graham
Penzance

On Jul 5, 5:08*pm, Graham Easterling
wrote:
On 5 Jul, 16:16, Dawlish wrote:





On Jul 5, 4:00*pm, "Jon O'Rourke" wrote:

"Dawlish" wrote in message

....

snip

I'm sure all the review's recommendations will be followed up in due course
and the recent establishment of the 24/7 "Wet Bench" in the Operations
Centre, prior the reports release, will further help. BBC report on this
from Junehttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7453522.stmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/...

As before, keep the feedback/suggestions coming tohttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/contact/contact.html

In the mean time you might find the warnings panel here helpfulhttp://www.metbrief.com/obs.html

Jon.

Probably the worst weather of the afternoon so far. Driving rain and a
force 6, gusting force 7/8 Southerly. Nothing severe, either in
rainfall, or in wind speeds, but high tide is still 4 hours away. The
key to the severity will be in the interaction of weather and sea
around high tide.

With luck my water butts will be full by the end of the afternoon.
Water collection going very well and the water collection vessels have
not been blown across the garden (yet). Now all I need is some warm
and dry weather to use the collected water!

Paul- Hide quoted text -

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Well, wind's not gale force in the Channel, or on exposed headlands
(say Culdrose - Force 6, or Portland Force 5) and the tide's not that
big, and the swell's not that large, peaked at 15' at Sevenstones (was
15'-18' when we went on that RIB Alan), so can't see why there should
be any problems, with the possible exception of trains getting
splashed at Dawlish.

Graham
Penzance- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Like I say, I think we'll escape, but there could be problems as the
strongest winds transfer East, where they will become onshore.

Paul

On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 09:08:10 -0700 (PDT), Graham Easterling
wrote:

Well, wind's not gale force in the Channel, or on exposed headlands
(say Culdrose - Force 6, or Portland Force 5) and the tide's not that
big, and the swell's not that large, peaked at 15' at Sevenstones (was
15'-18' when we went on that RIB Alan),...

That was 'interesting'...at least, for me.

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather

On Jul 5, 5:31*pm, Dawlish wrote:
On Jul 5, 5:08*pm, Graham Easterling
wrote:





On 5 Jul, 16:16, Dawlish wrote:

On Jul 5, 4:00*pm, "Jon O'Rourke" wrote:

"Dawlish" wrote in message

...

snip

I'm sure all the review's recommendations will be followed up in due course
and the recent establishment of the 24/7 "Wet Bench" in the Operations
Centre, prior the reports release, will further help. BBC report on this
from Junehttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7453522.stmhttp://news..bbc.co.uk/...

As before, keep the feedback/suggestions coming tohttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/contact/contact.html

In the mean time you might find the warnings panel here helpfulhttp://www.metbrief.com/obs.html

Jon.

Probably the worst weather of the afternoon so far. Driving rain and a
force 6, gusting force 7/8 Southerly. Nothing severe, either in
rainfall, or in wind speeds, but high tide is still 4 hours away. The
key to the severity will be in the interaction of weather and sea
around high tide.

With luck my water butts will be full by the end of the afternoon.
Water collection going very well and the water collection vessels have
not been blown across the garden (yet). Now all I need is some warm
and dry weather to use the collected water!

Paul- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, wind's not gale force in the Channel, or on exposed headlands
(say Culdrose - Force 6, or Portland Force 5) and the tide's not that
big, and the swell's not that large, peaked at 15' at Sevenstones (was
15'-18' when we went on that RIB Alan), so can't see why there should
be any problems, with the possible exception of trains getting
splashed at Dawlish.

Graham
Penzance- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Like I say, I think we'll escape, but there could be problems as the
strongest winds transfer East, where they will become onshore.

Paul- Hide quoted text -

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Escaped here. The tide is high (sounds like a line from a song), but
the South-Westerly is flattening the waves and not adding to their
height. There's a good flow coming down Dawlish Water, but it's not
bankfull and the narrow exit is coping, allowing exit of the river
water between waves. There's some people watching the high tide (must
be tourists, locals wouldn't bother with this!) and a couple of
council workmen who will have been dispatched to shift the rubbish
bins and to unblock the river exit, under the road, should anything
get jammed. It was an appropriate response. One row of sandbags
outside my friends' flat, but they won't be needed tonight. That was
an appropriate response too! The tide will be falling soon. Dawlish
can breathe a sigh of relief! I haven't been to Newton Abbot. The
supermarket booze and treat shelves called too loud!

Paul

On Jul 5, 5:49*pm, Alan White wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 09:08:10 -0700 (PDT), Graham Easterling

wrote:
Well, wind's not gale force in the Channel, or on exposed headlands
(say Culdrose - Force 6, or Portland Force 5) and the tide's not that
big, and the swell's not that large, peaked at 15' at Sevenstones (was
15'-18' when we went on that RIB Alan),...

That was 'interesting'...at least, for me.

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:-http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather

On Jul 5, 8:42*pm, Dawlish wrote:
On Jul 5, 5:31*pm, Dawlish wrote:





On Jul 5, 5:08*pm, Graham Easterling
wrote:

On 5 Jul, 16:16, Dawlish wrote:

On Jul 5, 4:00*pm, "Jon O'Rourke" wrote:

"Dawlish" wrote in message

...

snip

I'm sure all the review's recommendations will be followed up in due course
and the recent establishment of the 24/7 "Wet Bench" in the Operations
Centre, prior the reports release, will further help. BBC report on this
from Junehttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7453522.stmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/...

As before, keep the feedback/suggestions coming tohttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/contact/contact.html

In the mean time you might find the warnings panel here helpfulhttp://www.metbrief.com/obs.html

Jon.

Probably the worst weather of the afternoon so far. Driving rain and a
force 6, gusting force 7/8 Southerly. Nothing severe, either in
rainfall, or in wind speeds, but high tide is still 4 hours away. The
key to the severity will be in the interaction of weather and sea
around high tide.

With luck my water butts will be full by the end of the afternoon.
Water collection going very well and the water collection vessels have
not been blown across the garden (yet). Now all I need is some warm
and dry weather to use the collected water!

Paul- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, wind's not gale force in the Channel, or on exposed headlands
(say Culdrose - Force 6, or Portland Force 5) and the tide's not that
big, and the swell's not that large, peaked at 15' at Sevenstones (was
15'-18' when we went on that RIB Alan), so can't see why there should
be any problems, with the possible exception of trains getting
splashed at Dawlish.

Graham
Penzance- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Like I say, I think we'll escape, but there could be problems as the
strongest winds transfer East, where they will become onshore.

Paul- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Escaped here. The tide is high (sounds like a line from a song), but
the South-Westerly is flattening the waves and not adding to their
height. There's a good flow coming down Dawlish Water, but it's not
bankfull and the narrow exit is coping, allowing exit of the river
water between waves. There's some people watching the high tide (must
be tourists, locals wouldn't bother with this!) and a couple of
council workmen who will have been dispatched to shift the rubbish
bins and to unblock the river exit, under the road, should anything
get jammed. It was an appropriate response. One row of sandbags
outside my friends' flat, but they won't be needed tonight. That was
an appropriate response too! The tide will be falling soon. Dawlish
can breathe a sigh of relief! I haven't been to Newton Abbot. The
supermarket booze and treat shelves called too loud!

Paul- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

We didn't, in fact, escape completely. No flooding, but there was
damage to the sea wall. One day, in a monstrous storm which will hit
this railway, a big stretch will be completely washed away. One of the
most scenic railways in the country, but, perhaps, the most
vulnerable. Estimates of the cost of re-routing it under the Haldon
Hills are enormous.

http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/di...entPK=21045208

Paul

Dawlish wrote:
On Jul 5, 8:42 pm, Dawlish wrote:
On Jul 5, 5:31 pm, Dawlish wrote:





On Jul 5, 5:08 pm, Graham Easterling
wrote:
On 5 Jul, 16:16, Dawlish wrote:
On Jul 5, 4:00 pm, "Jon O'Rourke" wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message
...
snip
I'm sure all the review's recommendations will be followed up in due course
and the recent establishment of the 24/7 "Wet Bench" in the Operations
Centre, prior the reports release, will further help. BBC report on this
from Junehttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7453522.stmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/...
As before, keep the feedback/suggestions coming tohttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/contact/contact.html
In the mean time you might find the warnings panel here helpfulhttp://www.metbrief.com/obs.html
Jon.
Probably the worst weather of the afternoon so far. Driving rain and a
force 6, gusting force 7/8 Southerly. Nothing severe, either in
rainfall, or in wind speeds, but high tide is still 4 hours away. The
key to the severity will be in the interaction of weather and sea
around high tide.
With luck my water butts will be full by the end of the afternoon.
Water collection going very well and the water collection vessels have
not been blown across the garden (yet). Now all I need is some warm
and dry weather to use the collected water!
Paul- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well, wind's not gale force in the Channel, or on exposed headlands
(say Culdrose - Force 6, or Portland Force 5) and the tide's not that
big, and the swell's not that large, peaked at 15' at Sevenstones (was
15'-18' when we went on that RIB Alan), so can't see why there should
be any problems, with the possible exception of trains getting
splashed at Dawlish.
Graham
Penzance- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Like I say, I think we'll escape, but there could be problems as the
strongest winds transfer East, where they will become onshore.
Paul- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Escaped here. The tide is high (sounds like a line from a song), but
the South-Westerly is flattening the waves and not adding to their
height. There's a good flow coming down Dawlish Water, but it's not
bankfull and the narrow exit is coping, allowing exit of the river
water between waves. There's some people watching the high tide (must
be tourists, locals wouldn't bother with this!) and a couple of
council workmen who will have been dispatched to shift the rubbish
bins and to unblock the river exit, under the road, should anything
get jammed. It was an appropriate response. One row of sandbags
outside my friends' flat, but they won't be needed tonight. That was
an appropriate response too! The tide will be falling soon. Dawlish
can breathe a sigh of relief! I haven't been to Newton Abbot. The
supermarket booze and treat shelves called too loud!

Paul- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

We didn't, in fact, escape completely. No flooding, but there was
damage to the sea wall. One day, in a monstrous storm which will hit
this railway, a big stretch will be completely washed away. One of the
most scenic railways in the country, but, perhaps, the most
vulnerable. Estimates of the cost of re-routing it under the Haldon
Hills are enormous.

http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/di...entPK=21045208

Paul


Presumably the contractors would have to re-route the rly by the
A38/A380, to get from Exeter to Newton Abbott. Of course if it did
happen the rly line from Exeter to Teignmouth would be disused, what
network rail spent in building a new line, can be recouped in not
repairing the line from Dawlish warren to Teignmouth.



--
Joe Egginton
Wolverhampton
175m asl

On Jul 10, 11:11*am, Joe Egginton wrote:
Dawlish wrote:
On Jul 5, 8:42 pm, Dawlish wrote:
On Jul 5, 5:31 pm, Dawlish wrote:

On Jul 5, 5:08 pm, Graham Easterling
wrote:
On 5 Jul, 16:16, Dawlish wrote:
On Jul 5, 4:00 pm, "Jon O'Rourke" wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message
...
snip
I'm sure all the review's recommendations will be followed up in due course
and the recent establishment of the 24/7 "Wet Bench" in the Operations
Centre, prior the reports release, will further help. BBC report on this
from Junehttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7453522.stmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/...
As before, keep the feedback/suggestions coming tohttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/contact/contact.html
In the mean time you might find the warnings panel here helpfulhttp://www.metbrief.com/obs.html
Jon.
Probably the worst weather of the afternoon so far. Driving rain and a
force 6, gusting force 7/8 Southerly. Nothing severe, either in
rainfall, or in wind speeds, but high tide is still 4 hours away. The
key to the severity will be in the interaction of weather and sea
around high tide.
With luck my water butts will be full by the end of the afternoon.
Water collection going very well and the water collection vessels have
not been blown across the garden (yet). Now all I need is some warm
and dry weather to use the collected water!
Paul- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well, wind's not gale force in the Channel, or on exposed headlands
(say Culdrose - Force 6, or Portland Force 5) and the tide's not that
big, and the swell's not that large, peaked at 15' at Sevenstones (was
15'-18' when we went on that RIB Alan), so can't see why there should
be any problems, with the possible exception of trains getting
splashed at Dawlish.
Graham
Penzance- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Like I say, I think we'll escape, but there could be problems as the
strongest winds transfer East, where they will become onshore.
Paul- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Escaped here. The tide is high (sounds like a line from a song), but
the South-Westerly is flattening the waves and not adding to their
height. There's a good flow coming down Dawlish Water, but it's not
bankfull and the narrow exit is coping, allowing exit of the river
water between waves. There's some people watching the high tide (must
be tourists, locals wouldn't bother with this!) and a couple of
council workmen who will have been dispatched to shift the rubbish
bins and to unblock the river exit, under the road, should anything
get jammed. It was an appropriate response. One row of sandbags
outside my friends' flat, but they won't be needed tonight. That was
an appropriate response too! The tide will be falling soon. Dawlish
can breathe a sigh of relief! I haven't been to Newton Abbot. The
supermarket booze and treat shelves called too loud!

Paul- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

We didn't, in fact, escape completely. No flooding, but there was
damage to the sea wall. One day, in a monstrous storm which will hit
this railway, a big stretch will be completely washed away. One of the
most scenic railways in the country, but, perhaps, the most
vulnerable. Estimates of the cost of re-routing it under the Haldon
Hills are enormous.

http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/di...d=134822&comma....

Paul

Presumably the contractors would have to re-route the rly by the
A38/A380, to get from Exeter to Newton Abbott. *Of course if it did
happen the rly line from Exeter to Teignmouth would be disused, what
network rail spent in building a new line, can be recouped in not
repairing the line from Dawlish warren to Teignmouth.

--
Joe Egginton
Wolverhampton
175m asl- Hide quoted text -

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I think it is more a case of crossing fimgers and hoping the constant
repairs are enough, Joe. this report from 2006 talks a little bit
about it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5099454.stm

When I read the rail minister saying; "Sea defences were not due to
fail in the "foreseeable future", I just know there are unfavourable
costs involved. The line's future has nothing to do with what may
happen with Global Warning and everything to do with whether a 1 in
200 year storm will occur in the near future it's a matter of risk.
I'm sure the minister knows that the odds of it being washed away
while this government is in power are low.....but we may be unlucky
enough for him toregret that comment! FWIW I think the option of
constant repair is the best one, even though it is the most expensive
railway line in the country, mile, for mile, to repair.

Paul