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Well, it's not looking good if you're a sun and heat lover for this
summer, now we're into July and high pressure seems to be avoiding us
like the plague. Is this goning to be two years in a row, something not
unusual, of grim summer weather? Of course, it may pick up for August,
one can only hope.
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:55:54 +0100, Keith (Southend) wrote in


Well, it's not looking good if you're a sun and heat lover for this
summer, now we're into July and high pressure seems to be avoiding us
like the plague. Is this goning to be two years in a row, something not
unusual, of grim summer weather? Of course, it may pick up for August,
one can only hope.


I tend to agree with you Keith. The models are only hinting at an
improvement in mid July. One of the problems, as far as I'm concerned, is
that persistence is particularly strong at this time of year.

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Mike Tullett - Coleraine 55.13°N 6.69°W posted 06/07/2008 12:48:34 GMT
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I tend to agree with you Keith. The models are only hinting at an
improvement in mid July. One of the problems, as far as I'm
concerned, is that persistence is particularly strong at this time of
year.


If only we had a little more anomalous coolness like this in winter
(assuming we are anomalously cool)!

Richard
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On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 at 13:48:34, Mike Tullett wrote
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:55:54 +0100, Keith (Southend) wrote in


Well, it's not looking good if you're a sun and heat lover for this
summer, now we're into July and high pressure seems to be avoiding us
like the plague. Is this goning to be two years in a row, something not
unusual, of grim summer weather? Of course, it may pick up for August,
one can only hope.


I tend to agree with you Keith. The models are only hinting at an
improvement in mid July. One of the problems, as far as I'm concerned, is
that persistence is particularly strong at this time of year.

I don't mind hot weather in the 2nd half of August, as I know the summer
will soon be over...
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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)
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On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 at 13:48:34, Mike Tullett wrote in
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I don't mind hot weather in the 2nd half of August, as I know the summer
will soon be over...
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Paul Hyett,


God you miserable sod you ---how can people let you get away with statements
like that?
--
Dave R. [west London]



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On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 at 20:32:12, Dave R. wrote in
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I don't mind hot weather in the 2nd half of August, as I know the
summer will soon be over...
-- Paul Hyett,


God you miserable sod you


I'm never miserable in cool summer weather.

---how can people let you get away with statements like that?


They don't, judging by the above comment.
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Paul Hyett wrote:

On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 at 20:32:12, Dave R. wrote in
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I don't mind hot weather in the 2nd half of August, as I know the
summer will soon be over... -- Paul Hyett,


God you miserable sod you


I'm never miserable in cool summer weather.

---how can people let you get away with statements like that?


They don't, judging by the above comment.




Quite fascinating, really. Most of us on here, I assume, were born in
the British Isles and have spent most of our lives here and should
therefore be completely acclimatised to the British Isles weather. Yet,
the range of temperature in which we feel most comfortable varies
hugely from individual to individual. For some (including me) an ideal
summer afternoon temperature is 17-18c. For others the ideal is over
30c. I suspect that the great majority favour somewhere around 25c.
Also, some people like air with a high dew point while others prefer a
low dew point. I wouldn't begin to offer a reason why there is such
variability in what feels comfortable but there is no doubt that the
variability exists.

Norman
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On Jul 6, 1:48*pm, Mike Tullett wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:55:54 +0100, Keith (Southend) wrote in


Well, it's not looking good if you're a sun and heat lover for this
summer, now we're *into July and high pressure seems to be avoiding us
like the plague. Is this goning to be two years in a row, something not
unusual, of grim summer weather? *Of course, it may pick up for August,
one can only hope.


I tend to agree with you Keith. *The models are only hinting at an
improvement in mid July. *One of the problems, as far as I'm concerned, is
that persistence is particularly strong at this time of year.

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Mike Tullett - Coleraine 55.13°N 6.69°W *posted 06/07/2008 12:48:34 *GMT


There are hints Mike! I'd settle for those 12z gfs charts for next
weekend! It would be at the expense of a forecast, but who cares! I
have guests with young children. I really don't want rain! I want nice
sunny, calm picnic and boat trip conditions with rain only forecast
several days ahead, on washing day, or something!

Paul
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"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
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Well, it's not looking good if you're a sun and heat lover for this
summer, now we're into July and high pressure seems to be avoiding us
like the plague. Is this goning to be two years in a row, something not
unusual, of grim summer weather? Of course, it may pick up for August,
one can only hope.
--
Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
e-mail: kreh at southendweather dot net



The omens are not good; Philip Eden has mentioned in his monthly synoptic
overviews that there has been higher than average pressure over Greenland
in each of the last 3 months, and this month has continued to show high
pressure in the Iceland/Greenland region, so far.Clearly, this means that
depression tracks will continue to follow routes further south than usual
and no settled spells for Britain - although Scotland often fares well in
these situations.Some sources seem to suggest that the weather will improve
after mid-month - I shall believe it when it happens.

Peter Clarke
Ewell, Epsom

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"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
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Well, it's not looking good if you're a sun and heat lover for this
summer, now we're into July and high pressure seems to be avoiding us
like the plague. Is this goning to be two years in a row, something not
unusual, of grim summer weather? Of course, it may pick up for August,
one can only hope.
--
Keith (Southend)


Hey Keith how is it you can get away with criticising the awful summer and
the prospect of it continuing to be awful when I get called an old moaner
for exactly the same thing? Oh I get it, yes, your in the "fan club" are
you? or am I just better at it.

--
Dave R. [west London]



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