In message , "Keith (Southend)"
writes
Maybe a bit early still, but after such an appalling summer I would
have expected things to settle down by now and high pressure take up
residence in our region. I would be very surprised if later this month
and certainly not October talk of an Indian summer will be on going. I
must admit I can't remember such a wet early September!!!

I shouldn't complain, Mr Pepys had a similar report in 1663
(http://www.pepysdiary.com/archive/1663/08/), he wrote;

"At the office betimes (it being cold all night and this morning, and a
very great frost they say abroad, which is much, having had no summer at
all almost), where we sat, and in the afternoon also about settling the
establishment of the number of men borne on ships, &c., till the
evening, and after that in my closet till late, and quite tired with
business, home to supper and to bed."

Frost in August. There's something we don't see very often (at all?).
--
Tim
http://www.pitfieldbeershop.co.uk/

In article ,
Tim writes:
I shouldn't complain, Mr Pepys had a similar report in 1663 (http://www
.pepysdiary.com/archive/1663/08/), he wrote;

"At the office betimes (it being cold all night and this morning, and a
very great frost they say abroad, which is much, having had no summer
at all almost), where we sat, and in the afternoon also about settling
the establishment of the number of men borne on ships, &c., till the
evening, and after that in my closet till late, and quite tired with
business, home to supper and to bed."

Frost in August. There's something we don't see very often (at all?).

It's certainly very rare nowadays south of the border, except perhaps in
very pronounced frost hollows. Of course, 1663 was close to the peak of
the "Little Ice Age" which, though it may not have been a world-wide
phenomenon, was certainly a very chilly period in NE Europe.

Of course, they were still using the Julian calendar then, so Pepys'
28th August would have corresponded to about the 7th September.
--
John Hall
"Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history
that man can never learn anything from history."
George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)

In message , John Hall
writes
In article ,
Tim writes:
I shouldn't complain, Mr Pepys had a similar report in 1663 (http://www
.pepysdiary.com/archive/1663/08/), he wrote;

"At the office betimes (it being cold all night and this morning, and a
very great frost they say abroad, which is much, having had no summer
at all almost), where we sat, and in the afternoon also about settling
the establishment of the number of men borne on ships, &c., till the
evening, and after that in my closet till late, and quite tired with
business, home to supper and to bed."

Frost in August. There's something we don't see very often (at all?).

It's certainly very rare nowadays south of the border, except perhaps in
very pronounced frost hollows. Of course, 1663 was close to the peak of
the "Little Ice Age" which, though it may not have been a world-wide
phenomenon, was certainly a very chilly period in NE Europe.

Of course, they were still using the Julian calendar then, so Pepys'
28th August would have corresponded to about the 7th September.

Bother, I was a day out posting on the 8th ;-)
--
Tim
http://www.pitfieldbeershop.co.uk/

In article ,
John Hall writes:
Of course, 1663 was close to the peak of
the "Little Ice Age" which, though it may not have been a world-wide
phenomenon, was certainly a very chilly period in NE Europe.

That was supposed to read "NW Europe" of course.
--
John Hall
"Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history
that man can never learn anything from history."
George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)

In article ,
Tim writes:
Of course, they were still using the Julian calendar then, so Pepys'
28th August would have corresponded to about the 7th September.

Bother, I was a day out posting on the 8th ;-)



The discrepancy had reached 11 days by 1752, so I was guessing that it
would have been about 10 days in 1663.
--
John Hall
"Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history
that man can never learn anything from history."
George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)

On Sep 9, 3:49*am, John Hall wrote:
In article ,
*John Hall writes:

Of course, 1663 was close to the peak of
the "Little Ice Age" which, though it may not have been a world-wide
phenomenon, was certainly a very chilly period in NE Europe.

That was supposed to read "NW Europe" of course.
--
John Hall
* * * * * * * * "Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history
* * * * * * * * *that man can never learn anything from history."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)

Doesn't the latest evidence suggest that the Little Ice Age was a
global event ?

In article
,
Jellore writes:
On Sep 9, 3:49*am, John Hall wrote:
In article ,
*John Hall writes:

Of course, 1663 was close to the peak of
the "Little Ice Age" which, though it may not have been a world-wide
phenomenon, was certainly a very chilly period in NE Europe.

That was supposed to read "NW Europe" of course.

Doesn't the latest evidence suggest that the Little Ice Age was a
global event ?


I thought that I had recently read somewhere that it is now supposed to
have mainly affected areas around the North Atlantic (Europe, Iceland,
Greenland, parts of North America), and to have been far less severe in
Asia and the Southern Hemisphere. Unfortunately I can't remember where I
read it.
--
John Hall
"Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history
that man can never learn anything from history."
George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)