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Default Cold on Saturday: Altnaharra -8.9°C min and -1.7°C max

Meteosat 8 satellite picture from Ferdinand Valk's site at 12.00 UTC
on Saturday 29th November
http://www.fvalk.com/images/Day_imag...8-1200-EUR.jpg

Meteosat MSG-2 satellite picture from Bernard Burton's site at 12.00
UTC on Saturday 29th November
http://www.woksat.info/etcqk29m/qk29-msg-1200-uk.html

NOAA 17 satellite picture from Bernard Burton's site at 11.30 UTC on
Saturday 29th November
http://www.woksat.info/etcqk29/qk29-1130-b-uk.html

Extensive cloud over southern England; some areas of fog over the
Midlands and northern England, and central Scotland. Belgium mostly
cloudy.


UK min. temps on Friday night http://tinyurl.com/5sa6ly

Tain Range, Leeming and Capel Curig -4.9°C, Wick -5.1°C, Kinloss and
Leuchars -5.2°C, Copley -5.3°C, Aviemore and Redesdale -6.6°C,
Lossiemouth -6.9°C, Loch Glascarnoch -7.0°C, Aboyne -7.9°C,
Altnaharra -8.9°C.

St Mary’s (Scilly) and Jersey 4.1°C, Weybourne 4.8°C, Guernsey and
Langdon Bay 5.0°C, Manston 5.5°C.


UK max. temps on Saturday http://tinyurl.com/57oqmj

Altnaharra -1.7°C, Glen Ogle -1.6°C, Loch Glascarnoch -1.4°C,
Sennybridge -1.0°C, Hawarden -0.8°C, Charterhall -0.6°C.

Milford Haven, Camborne and Jersey 6.2°C, Aberdaron and Manston
6.3°C, Ronaldsway 7.1°C, Guernsey 7.3°C, Valley and St Mary’s
(Scilly) 7.6°C, Weybourne 7.8°C.

OGIMET summary http://tinyurl.com/6lb4dg


Rainfall radar http://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&soort=loop24uur&URL
or http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/radar/

Rain in extreme SW England on Saturday morning and nearby all day.
Showers over the Western Isles and near the west coast of Scotland and
Ireland.

Rainfall totals in 24 hours ending 18.00 UTC on Saturday
http://tinyurl.com/5rc6j2

St Bees Head, Valley, Wattisham and Shoeburyness 3 mm, Dundrennan 4
mm, South Uist 5 mm, Stornoway and Manston 7 mm, Port Ellen (Islay)
9 mm, St Mary’s (Scilly) 33 mm.


Location of some UK stations http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/education/data/uk_map.html


Colin Youngs
Brussels

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Rain in extreme SW England on Saturday morning and nearby all day.


Colin Youngs
Brussels


No rain in Cornwall this morning that I'm aware of, certainly not in
the far south west. 0.2mm the most I've seen anywhere in Cornwall for
the 24 hours to 18:00.

Graham
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:48:14 -0800 (PST), Graham Easterling wrote:

Rain in extreme SW England on Saturday morning and nearby all day.


Colin Youngs
Brussels


No rain in Cornwall this morning that I'm aware of, certainly not in
the far south west. 0.2mm the most I've seen anywhere in Cornwall for
the 24 hours to 18:00.


Nothing here in Stithians (8 miles SW of Truro) either.
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"Graham Easterling" wrote in message
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Rain in extreme SW England on Saturday morning and nearby all day.


Colin Youngs
Brussels


No rain in Cornwall this morning that I'm aware of, certainly not in
the far south west. 0.2mm the most I've seen anywhere in Cornwall for
the 24 hours to 18:00.

Graham
Penzance

Perhaps Colin meant to refer to SE England, where there has indeed been
light rain on and off.

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On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:38:24 -0800 (PST), Colin Youngs wrote in


Rainfall radar http://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&soort=loop24uur&URL
or http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/radar/

Rain in extreme SW England on Saturday morning and nearby all day.
Showers over the Western Isles and near the west coast of Scotland and
Ireland.


We had light snow showers falling on rime covered surfaces this morning.

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"Graham Easterling" schreef in bericht
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: Rain in extreme SW England on Saturday morning and nearby all day.
: Colin Youngs
: Brussels

: No rain in Cornwall this morning that I'm aware of, certainly not in
: the far south west. 0.2mm the most I've seen anywhere in Cornwall for
: the 24 hours to 18:00.

Radar seems to show rain just over the tip of Cornwall
http://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=holid...oort=loop24uur Perhaps not
quite an accurate match with the map underneath. Rain in the Scilly Isles
though http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/EGHE.html .

Colin Youngs
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Default Cold on Saturday: Altnaharra -8.9°C min and -1.7°C max

On 29 Nov, 23:07, "Colin Youngs" wrote:
"Graham Easterling" schreef in ...

: Rain in extreme SW England on Saturday morning and nearby all day.
: Colin Youngs
: Brussels

: No rain in Cornwall this morning that I'm aware of, certainly not in
: the far south west. 0.2mm the most I've seen anywhere in Cornwall for
: the 24 hours to 18:00.

Radar seems to show rain just over the tip of Cornwallhttp://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=holiday&jaar=-3&soort=loop24uur* Perhaps not
quite an accurate match with the map underneath. * Rain in the Scilly Isles
though *http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/EGHE.html.

Colin Youngs
Brussels


Lands End recorded 0.1mm yesterday ( www.landsendweather.info/ ) and
that was a little early hours drizzle.

The rainfall radar typically overstates rainfall on the Penwith (Lands
End) peninsula. In particular there are occasions when there is a semi
permanent 'shower' near Porthcurno.

Scilly was wet, but it's not part of Cornwall of course.

Graham
Penzance
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"Graham Easterling" schreef in ...

: Rain in extreme SW England on Saturday morning and nearby all day.
: Colin Youngs
: Brussels


: No rain in Cornwall this morning that I'm aware of, certainly not in
: the far south west. 0.2mm the most I've seen anywhere in Cornwall for
: the 24 hours to 18:00.


Radar seems to show rain just over the tip of Cornwallhttp://www.meteox..com/h.aspx?r=holiday&jaar=-3&soort=loop24uur*Perhaps not
quite an accurate match with the map underneath. * Rain in the Scilly Isles
though *http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/EGHE.html.


Colin Youngs
Brussels


Lands End recorded 0.1mm yesterday (www.landsendweather.info/) and
that was a little early hours drizzle.

The rainfall radar typically overstates rainfall on the Penwith (Lands
End) peninsula. In particular there are occasions when there is a semi
permanent 'shower' near Porthcurno.

Scilly was wet, but it's not part of Cornwall of course.

Graham
Penzance


I'd like to make it clear I'm not having a dig at Colin, who's reports
& links I find very useful. It's just that the rainfall radar can be
misleading, therefore it's best to check whether it actually rained or
not.

Graham
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"Graham Easterling" wrote in message
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Scilly was wet, but it's not part of Cornwall of course.


Really?
I'd always assumed offshore islands like Scilly would be
part of their nearest county.
So what kind of jurasdiction do they have there, are they
effectively a 'county' in ther own right?

Col
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Scilly was wet, but it's not part of Cornwall of course.

Really?
I'd always assumed offshore islands like Scilly would be
part of their nearest county.
So what kind of jurasdiction do they have there, are they
effectively a 'county' in ther own right?



.... the Isles of Scilly are administered by the Council of the Isles
of Scilly, which is a unitary authority responsible for all the
'normal' council matters from education to rubbish
collection/disposal.

The islands are part of the Duchy of Cornwall, and the Duchy own a
reasonable chunk of the buildings. The Duchy has owned (effectively)
the islands since the 14th century.

Even after 2009 April (new unitary authority for Cornwall), the IoS
will not be subsumed into the administrative infrastructure of
Cornwall.

For all these reasons, a lot of people will tend to refer to the
broader area of the SW peninsula (for geographic purposes) as "
Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly ".

I'm not sure the Shetland islanders like being regarded as part of
Scotland - but perhaps that's another story ;-)

Martin.


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