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I went down to Sandbanks at around 7pm this evening parking on the
road opposite the Sandacres pub. There must have been around a one
metre wide fringe of slushy ice along the water line stretching for
several hundred yards along the beach. In fact the pub landlord was
scooping some of the slush up and taking it indoors as his regulars
would not believe the sea was partially frozen. The water is quite
shallow on the Poole Harbour facing beach at Sandbanks for quite a way
out so it's hardly surprising this phenomenum occurred. There's been
a similar situation just along the coast at Arne where again there is
some shallow water. If it gets much colder we'll be walking to
Brownsea Island next!

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Currently -7.7c in Poole, about 3 miles from the South Coast. Went down
to -7.2 last night in Poole.

Poole
http://www.wunderground.com/weathers...p?ID=IDORSETP5

Frost lasted all day here in Bournemouth Town Centre

Gary (Bournemouth Town Centre)




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I went down to Sandbanks at around 7pm this evening parking on the
road opposite the Sandacres pub. There must have been around a one
metre wide fringe of slushy ice along the water line stretching for
several hundred yards along the beach. In fact the pub landlord was
scooping some of the slush up and taking it indoors as his regulars
would not believe the sea was partially frozen. The water is quite
shallow on the Poole Harbour facing beach at Sandbanks for quite a way
out so it's hardly surprising this phenomenum occurred. There's been
a similar situation just along the coast at Arne where again there is
some shallow water. If it gets much colder we'll be walking to
Brownsea Island next!



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Gary L wrote:
Currently -7.7c in Poole, about 3 miles from the South Coast. Went down
to -7.2 last night in Poole.


Frost lasted all day here in Bournemouth Town Centre

Gary (Bournemouth Town Centre)


It was noticeably colder on arriving back home to Bournemouth this
evening (7:15) than it was in Southampton (where I had to wait 25
minutes for my train, so would have noticed the cold!).

I will find out just how cold when I leave for the station at 6am
tomorrow morning!

Jonathan (also close to Bournemouth town centre)
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:34:52 -0800 (PST), Purbeckview wrote:

I went down to Sandbanks at around 7pm this evening parking on the
road opposite the Sandacres pub. There must have been around a one
metre wide fringe of slushy ice along the water line stretching for
several hundred yards along the beach. In fact the pub landlord was
scooping some of the slush up and taking it indoors as his regulars
would not believe the sea was partially frozen. The water is quite
shallow on the Poole Harbour facing beach at Sandbanks for quite a way
out so it's hardly surprising this phenomenum occurred. There's been
a similar situation just along the coast at Arne where again there is
some shallow water. If it gets much colder we'll be walking to
Brownsea Island next!


Peter Gibbs mentioned this on his forecast at 1030 thta evening, I wonder
if he read it here.

Alan
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Peter Gibbs mentioned this on his forecast at 1030 thta evening, I wonder
if he read it here.


Did he indeed! I think I will demand a fee (or some winter woollies)
from him!!!!


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A bit in the local paper today.

http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/new...S_IN_DORS ET/

Gary



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I went down to Sandbanks at around 7pm this evening parking on the
road opposite the Sandacres pub. There must have been around a one
metre wide fringe of slushy ice along the water line stretching for
several hundred yards along the beach. In fact the pub landlord was
scooping some of the slush up and taking it indoors as his regulars
would not believe the sea was partially frozen. The water is quite
shallow on the Poole Harbour facing beach at Sandbanks for quite a way
out so it's hardly surprising this phenomenum occurred. There's been
a similar situation just along the coast at Arne where again there is
some shallow water. If it gets much colder we'll be walking to
Brownsea Island next!



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On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:03:44 -0000, Gary L wrote:

A bit in the local paper today.


Must be only brackish water if it's freezing at only -10C. 0F, the
freezing point of salt water, is nearly -18C. Still don't let facts get in
the way of a good story. B-)

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On local BBC news as well.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/7815269.stm

Gary


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I went down to Sandbanks at around 7pm this evening parking on the
road opposite the Sandacres pub. There must have been around a one
metre wide fringe of slushy ice along the water line stretching for
several hundred yards along the beach. In fact the pub landlord was
scooping some of the slush up and taking it indoors as his regulars
would not believe the sea was partially frozen. The water is quite
shallow on the Poole Harbour facing beach at Sandbanks for quite a way
out so it's hardly surprising this phenomenum occurred. There's been
a similar situation just along the coast at Arne where again there is
some shallow water. If it gets much colder we'll be walking to
Brownsea Island next!



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On 7 Jan, 22:50, John wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:09:19 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"

wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:03:44 -0000, Gary L wrote:


A bit in the local paper today.


Must be only brackish water if it's freezing at only -10C. 0F, the
freezing point of salt water, is nearly -18C. Still don't let facts get in
the way of a good story. *B-)


-18C? A saturated salt solution freezes at -21C and seawater is far
from that. *The salt solution used for 0F was ammonium rather than
sodium chloride.

A quick google gives a figure of around -2C for ocean seawater
although I assume convection and other effects mean a lower air
temperature would be required for surface freezing.

John


-2C about right for open sea, but it's even higher for many harbours
due to fresh water on top. Padstow harbour got in the news for being
frozen. The gates to the inner harbour were shut, and the river
flowing into it makes the surface virtually fresh, so it's little
different to a pond freezing over. A point that was made on the local
news report, which is good to see.

The very low humidity on the night of 6th/7th helped.

Graham
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On local BBC news as well.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/7815269.stm

Gary


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I went down to Sandbanks at around 7pm this evening parking on the
road opposite the Sandacres pub. There must have been around a one
metre wide fringe of slushy ice along the water line stretching for
several hundred yards along the beach. In fact the pub landlord was
scooping some of the slush up and taking it indoors as his regulars
would not believe the sea was partially frozen. The water is quite
shallow on the Poole Harbour facing beach at Sandbanks for quite a way
out so it's hardly surprising this phenomenum occurred. There's been
a similar situation just along the coast at Arne where again there is
some shallow water. If it gets much colder we'll be walking to
Brownsea Island next!



....and what incredible rubbish the article states:

"Sub-zero temperatures have frozen a half-mile (0.8km) stretch of sea off
Dorset for what is thought to be the first time in decades.
The ice stretches about 20 yards (18.3m) out to sea from the Sandbanks area
of Poole.

Southern England was hit by temperatures of -12C (10.4F) overnight."

Roger




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