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David Buttery January 12th 09 02:02 PM

Somewhat startling Met Office quote... it is via the Express,though!
 
I have to say that I find the quote I've repeated below, apparently from
"the Met Office's Stephen Holman", absolutely extraordinary if
it really is from a Met Office person. It is, however, from an article in
today's Daily Express, and as such I have absolutely no confidence that
it has been reported properly. Still, here it is:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...ong-big-freeze

-QUOTE STARTS-
The Met Office's Stephen Holman said that after the week-long storms
"temperatures will fall away and we will see a return to the frost and
freezing conditions that we saw last week.

"It will be decidedly cold with temperatures hovering around freezing and
significant snowfall on the way."

The chill would last around a month and could bring parts of the country
to a standstill.

He added: "The cold spell will set things up for a sustained cold
February. It is likely that the freezing conditions will carry on right
through to March and as we are not prepared for such weather, roads, rail
lines and schools could well be closed."
-QUOTE ENDS-

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.

Chris Smith January 12th 09 02:03 PM

Somewhat startling Met Office quote... it is via the Express,though!
 
David Buttery wrote:
I have to say that I find the quote I've repeated below, apparently from
"the Met Office's Stephen Holman", absolutely extraordinary if
it really is from a Met Office person. It is, however, from an article in
today's Daily Express, and as such I have absolutely no confidence that
it has been reported properly. Still, here it is:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...ong-big-freeze

-QUOTE STARTS-
The Met Office's Stephen Holman said that after the week-long storms
"temperatures will fall away and we will see a return to the frost and
freezing conditions that we saw last week.

"It will be decidedly cold with temperatures hovering around freezing and
significant snowfall on the way."

The chill would last around a month and could bring parts of the country
to a standstill.

He added: "The cold spell will set things up for a sustained cold
February. It is likely that the freezing conditions will carry on right
through to March and as we are not prepared for such weather, roads, rail
lines and schools could well be closed."
-QUOTE ENDS-


Sounds like someone's been at the cooking sherry...

Jon O'Rourke January 12th 09 02:36 PM

Somewhat startling Met Office quote... it is via the Express, though!
 
"David Buttery" wrote in message
...

. It is, however, from an article in
today's Daily Express, and as such I have absolutely no confidence that
it has been reported properly.


snip

Correct. I have it on good authority that Stephen did not make the quotes
attributed to him - although you don't have to look far in the article to
work out who probably did, allegedly etc..

Jon.




David Buttery January 12th 09 03:15 PM

Somewhat startling Met Office quote... it is via the Express,though!
 
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:36:15 +0000, Jon O'Rourke wrote:

"David Buttery" wrote in message
...

. It is, however, from an article in
today's Daily Express, and as such I have absolutely no confidence that
it has been reported properly.


snip

Correct. I have it on good authority that Stephen did not make the
quotes attributed to him - although you don't have to look far in the
article to work out who probably did, allegedly etc..

Jon.


Thanks; I'll certainly take your word over the Express's! In which case,
of course, the question to be asked is: what is his name doing in the
article? I suppose the most innocent explanation from the Express's point
of view is one of a simple but bad cock-up in compiling the article.
There are other, less charitable, explanations but I'd rather avoid the
kind attentions of m'learned friends!

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.

ronaldbutton January 12th 09 03:52 PM

Somewhat startling Met Office quote... it is via the Express, though!
 
How can anyone believe that article without verification from Piers Corbyn !
They'll be saying next that it's gonna the warmest year on record....

RonB

"David Buttery" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:36:15 +0000, Jon O'Rourke wrote:

"David Buttery" wrote in message
...

. It is, however, from an article in
today's Daily Express, and as such I have absolutely no confidence that
it has been reported properly.


snip

Correct. I have it on good authority that Stephen did not make the
quotes attributed to him - although you don't have to look far in the
article to work out who probably did, allegedly etc..

Jon.


Thanks; I'll certainly take your word over the Express's! In which case,
of course, the question to be asked is: what is his name doing in the
article? I suppose the most innocent explanation from the Express's point
of view is one of a simple but bad cock-up in compiling the article.
There are other, less charitable, explanations but I'd rather avoid the
kind attentions of m'learned friends!

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.




Will Hand January 12th 09 05:36 PM

Somewhat startling Met Office quote... it is via the Express, though!
 
Jon O'Rourke wrote:
"David Buttery" wrote in message
...

. It is, however, from an article in
today's Daily Express, and as such I have absolutely no confidence
that it has been reported properly.


snip

Correct. I have it on good authority that Stephen did not make the
quotes attributed to him - although you don't have to look far in the
article to work out who probably did, allegedly etc..

Jon.


Jon why don't we just tell the Sexpress to **** whenever they ring up?

Will
--



Dave Cornwell January 12th 09 07:46 PM

Somewhat startling Met Office quote... it is via the Express, though!
 

"Will Hand" wrote in message
...
Jon O'Rourke wrote:
"David Buttery" wrote in message
...

. It is, however, from an article in
today's Daily Express, and as such I have absolutely no confidence
that it has been reported properly.


snip

Correct. I have it on good authority that Stephen did not make the
quotes attributed to him - although you don't have to look far in the
article to work out who probably did, allegedly etc..

Jon.


Jon why don't we just tell the Sexpress to **** whenever they ring up?

Will

---------------------
We used to suffer the same from the Evening Standard regarding London's
"terrible" water quality. Our top brass took the view if they responded they
would get at them even more. Unfortunately, the media has the whip hand as
they have the mass access.
Dave
--





Will Hand January 12th 09 07:56 PM

Somewhat startling Met Office quote... it is via the Express, though!
 
Dave Cornwell wrote:
"Will Hand" wrote in message
...
Jon O'Rourke wrote:
"David Buttery" wrote in message
...

. It is, however, from an article in
today's Daily Express, and as such I have absolutely no confidence
that it has been reported properly.

snip

Correct. I have it on good authority that Stephen did not make the
quotes attributed to him - although you don't have to look far in
the article to work out who probably did, allegedly etc..

Jon.


Jon why don't we just tell the Sexpress to **** whenever they ring
up? Will

---------------------
We used to suffer the same from the Evening Standard regarding
London's "terrible" water quality. Our top brass took the view if
they responded they would get at them even more. Unfortunately, the
media has the whip hand as they have the mass access.
Dave
--


At least we don't have to buy newspaper comics. I haven't bought a paper for
at least 10 years and I never will again. If they go under in this recession
I for one won't be shedding many tears. Good riddance.

Will
--



Richard Dixon January 12th 09 08:24 PM

Somewhat startling Met Office quote... it is via the Express, though!
 
"Will Hand" wrote in
:

At least we don't have to buy newspaper comics. I haven't bought a
paper for at least 10 years and I never will again. If they go under
in this recession I for one won't be shedding many tears. Good
riddance.


Not even a Sunday Supplement? That's the forte of newspapers IMHO. A Sunday
afternoon with a roast dinner and a pint in the pub scouring the papers is
good for the soul !

Richard

John Hall January 12th 09 08:41 PM

Somewhat startling Met Office quote... it is via the Express, though!
 
In article ,
Will Hand writes:
At least we don't have to buy newspaper comics. I haven't bought a paper for
at least 10 years and I never will again. If they go under in this recession
I for one won't be shedding many tears. Good riddance.


I think they're a necessary evil if you want a (more or less) free
society. Goodness knows what our politicians would get up to without the
press to keep an eye on them.
--
John Hall
"It is a very sad thing that nowadays there is so little useless
information."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)

Rodney Blackall January 12th 09 09:54 PM

Somewhat startling Met Office quote... it is via the Express, though!
 
In article , Richard
Dixon wrote:
"Will Hand" wrote in
:


At least we don't have to buy newspaper comics. I haven't bought a
paper for at least 10 years and I never will again. If they go under in
this recession I for one won't be shedding many tears. Good riddance.


Not even a Sunday Supplement? That's the forte of newspapers IMHO. A
Sunday afternoon with a roast dinner and a pint in the pub scouring the
papers is good for the soul !


It's the best way of finding out how much trouble you can get into by
calling a small Pakistani friend of yours "a small Paki friend". If he
really wanted to insult him he would have been described as an Indian!

--
Rodney Blackall (retired meteorologist)(BSc, FRMetS, MRI)
Buckingham, ENGLAND
Using Acorn SA-RPC, OS 4.02 with ANT INS and Pluto 3.03j



Peter Thomas January 12th 09 10:35 PM

Somewhat startling Met Office quote... it is via the Express, though!
 
In message , Will Hand
writes

At least we don't have to buy newspaper comics. I haven't bought a paper for
at least 10 years and I never will again. If they go under in this recession
I for one won't be shedding many tears. Good riddance.

Funnily enough there were high stacks of unsold tabloids in the local
Sainsburys when I bought our papers on Saturday - Mail in particular
seemed to be over-stocked.

May simply have been a late delivery....
--
Peter Thomas

Graham P Davis January 13th 09 11:10 AM

Somewhat startling Met Office quote... it is via the Express, though!
 
Peter Thomas wrote:

In message , Will Hand
writes

At least we don't have to buy newspaper comics. I haven't bought a paper
for at least 10 years and I never will again. If they go under in this
recession I for one won't be shedding many tears. Good riddance.

Funnily enough there were high stacks of unsold tabloids in the local
Sainsburys when I bought our papers on Saturday - Mail in particular
seemed to be over-stocked.

May simply have been a late delivery....


I think most newsagents, I don't know about supermarkets, get their supplies
from W H Smith and they seem to use a random-number generator to decide how
many papers to supply.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy


[email protected] January 13th 09 02:38 PM

Somewhat startling Met Office quote... it is via the Express,though!
 
On Jan 13, 12:10*pm, Graham P Davis wrote:
Peter Thomas wrote:
In message , Will Hand
writes


At least we don't have to buy newspaper comics. I haven't bought a paper
for at least 10 years and I never will again. If they go under in this
recession I for one won't be shedding many tears. Good riddance.


Funnily enough there were high stacks of unsold tabloids in the local
Sainsburys when I bought our papers on Saturday *- Mail in particular
seemed to be over-stocked.


May simply have been a late delivery....


I think most newsagents, I don't know about supermarkets, get their supplies
from W H Smith and they seem to use a random-number generator to decide how
many papers to supply.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. *E-mail: newsman not newsboy


In a pst life I was a lorry driver delivering bulk supplies of
Saturday and Sunday papers to Supermarkets and Newsagents in Cambridge
(and I wasn't working for WH Smith). Part of the job was collecting
unsold papers the next day. It seemed to me that supermarkets
espicially took pleasure out of ordering 3 times as many papers as
they needed, just so I could carry the bundles twice instead of once!
Some supermarkets had nearly a quarter of a tonne of papers, and it
didn't matter how many staff were smoking outside of the supermarket,
none of them offered any help (sorry, there was a guy at Waitrose who
carried a few bundles for me, once).

To make my life easier, I would put the 25kg bundles into supermarket
trolleys (about 6 bundles per trolley) at the rear of the lorry. I
soon came to realise that there is not a supermarket with a car park
that isn't on an incline. I lost count of how many times the trolley
took itself for a jaunt across the (thankfully empty) car park!!

Regards

Paul

Col January 13th 09 05:26 PM

Somewhat startling Met Office quote... it is via the Express, though!
 

wrote in message
...
On Jan 13, 12:10 pm, Graham P Davis wrote:
Peter Thomas wrote:
In message , Will Hand
writes


At least we don't have to buy newspaper comics. I haven't bought a paper
for at least 10 years and I never will again. If they go under in this
recession I for one won't be shedding many tears. Good riddance.


Funnily enough there were high stacks of unsold tabloids in the local
Sainsburys when I bought our papers on Saturday - Mail in particular
seemed to be over-stocked.


May simply have been a late delivery....


I think most newsagents, I don't know about supermarkets, get their
supplies
from W H Smith and they seem to use a random-number generator to decide
how
many papers to supply.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy


In a pst life I was a lorry driver delivering bulk supplies of
Saturday and Sunday papers to Supermarkets and Newsagents in Cambridge
(and I wasn't working for WH Smith). Part of the job was collecting
unsold papers the next day. It seemed to me that supermarkets
espicially took pleasure out of ordering 3 times as many papers as
they needed, just so I could carry the bundles twice instead of once!
Some supermarkets had nearly a quarter of a tonne of papers, and it
didn't matter how many staff were smoking outside of the supermarket,
none of them offered any help (sorry, there was a guy at Waitrose who
carried a few bundles for me, once).


To be fair to those smoking staff, why should they help?
They were on their break and it wasn't their job anyway.

Would you have helped them stack shelves?
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl




[email protected] January 13th 09 05:29 PM

Somewhat startling Met Office quote... it is via the Express,though!
 
On Jan 13, 6:26*pm, "Col" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 13, 12:10 pm, Graham P Davis wrote:





Peter Thomas wrote:
In message , Will Hand
writes


At least we don't have to buy newspaper comics. I haven't bought a paper
for at least 10 years and I never will again. If they go under in this
recession I for one won't be shedding many tears. Good riddance.


Funnily enough there were high stacks of unsold tabloids in the local
Sainsburys when I bought our papers on Saturday - Mail in particular
seemed to be over-stocked.


May simply have been a late delivery....


I think most newsagents, I don't know about supermarkets, get their
supplies
from W H Smith and they seem to use a random-number generator to decide
how
many papers to supply.


--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
In a pst life I was a lorry driver delivering bulk supplies of
Saturday and Sunday papers to Supermarkets and Newsagents in Cambridge
(and I wasn't working for WH Smith). Part of the job was collecting
unsold papers the next day. It seemed to me that supermarkets
espicially took pleasure out of ordering 3 times as many papers as
they needed, just so I could carry the bundles twice instead of *once!
Some supermarkets had nearly a quarter of a tonne of papers, and it
didn't matter how many staff were smoking outside of the supermarket,
none of them offered any help (sorry, there was a guy at Waitrose who
carried a few bundles for me, once).


To be fair to those smoking staff, why should they help?
They were on their break and it wasn't their job anyway.

Would you have helped them stack shelves?
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Point taken Col........but I was usually in a bitter, twisted frame of
mind at 0300 hrs in the pouring rain...

BUT, I am a non smoker, and the only break I get is a lunch break:-)

Col January 13th 09 06:37 PM

Somewhat startling Met Office quote... it is via the Express, though!
 

wrote in message
...
On Jan 13, 6:26 pm, "Col" wrote:
wrote in message



Point taken Col........but I was usually in a bitter, twisted frame of
mind at 0300 hrs in the pouring rain...


BUT, I am a non smoker, and the only break I get is a lunch break:-)


I was assumimg that they were smoking on 'official' breaks.
No smoker should get extra breaks just to feed their habit.

How much off-topic can this get :)
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl



Jim Kewley[_2_] January 13th 09 11:58 PM

Somewhat startling Met Office quote... it is via the Express, though!
 
In message , Col
writes

wrote in message
...
On Jan 13, 6:26 pm, "Col" wrote:
wrote in message



Point taken Col........but I was usually in a bitter, twisted frame of
mind at 0300 hrs in the pouring rain...


BUT, I am a non smoker, and the only break I get is a lunch break:-)


I was assumimg that they were smoking on 'official' breaks.
No smoker should get extra breaks just to feed their habit.

How much off-topic can this get :)



Just displaying the usual intolerance, shown on this newsgroup, of any
alternative to the collective opinion.

Why slate people because they're having a fag? It's not illegal (yet) is
it?

--


Jim

Col January 14th 09 05:35 AM

OT - Smoking
 

"Jim Kewley" wrote in message
...
In message , Col
writes

wrote in message
...
On Jan 13, 6:26 pm, "Col" wrote:
wrote in message



Point taken Col........but I was usually in a bitter, twisted frame of
mind at 0300 hrs in the pouring rain...


BUT, I am a non smoker, and the only break I get is a lunch break:-)


I was assumimg that they were smoking on 'official' breaks.
No smoker should get extra breaks just to feed their habit.

How much off-topic can this get :)



Just displaying the usual intolerance, shown on this newsgroup, of any
alternative to the collective opinion.

Why slate people because they're having a fag? It's not illegal (yet) is
it?


Read what I wrote, idiot.
I wasn't slating smoking per se, rather if they were taking extra
breaks in order to do so.

Simple enough for you?
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl



Jim Kewley[_2_] January 16th 09 01:41 AM

OT - Smoking
 
In message , Col
writes

Read what I wrote, idiot.
I wasn't slating smoking per se, rather if they were taking extra
breaks in order to do so.

Simple enough for you?


Interesting have I ever been personally insulting to you?

Why does any opposition to straight's views invariably end up with them
displaying hostility? It's not just you Col, you're all the same.

Moving further up Rivington Pike may (or may not) help you experience
the cold you so obviously crave. Strange it's true but that's the way
of life, each to their own..


--


Jim

Graham P Davis January 16th 09 06:34 AM

OT - Smoking
 
Jim Kewley wrote:

In message , Col
writes

Read what I wrote, idiot.
I wasn't slating smoking per se, rather if they were taking extra
breaks in order to do so.

Simple enough for you?


Interesting have I ever been personally insulting to you?

Why does any opposition to straight's views invariably end up with them
displaying hostility? It's not just you Col, you're all the same.

Moving further up Rivington Pike may (or may not) help you experience
the cold you so obviously crave. Strange it's true but that's the way
of life, each to their own..



Government Health Warning: Smoking may seriously damage your ability to
read.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy


Col January 16th 09 04:42 PM

OT - Smoking
 

"Jim Kewley" wrote in message
...
In message , Col
writes

Read what I wrote, idiot.
I wasn't slating smoking per se, rather if they were taking extra
breaks in order to do so.

Simple enough for you?


Interesting have I ever been personally insulting to you?

Why does any opposition to straight's views invariably end up with them
displaying hostility? It's not just you Col, you're all the same.

Moving further up Rivington Pike may (or may not) help you experience the
cold you so obviously crave. Strange it's true but that's the way of
life, each to their own..


Yeah, whatever.

Now go away you unpleasant little man.

*Plonk*



[email protected] January 16th 09 04:46 PM

OT - Smoking
 
On Jan 16, 5:42*pm, "Col" wrote:
"Jim Kewley" wrote in message

...





In message , Col
writes


Read what I wrote, idiot.
I wasn't slating smoking per se, rather if they were taking extra
breaks in order to do so.


Simple enough for you?


Interesting have I ever been personally insulting to you?


Why does any opposition to straight's views invariably end up with them
displaying hostility? *It's not just you Col, you're all the same.


Moving further up Rivington Pike may (or may not) help you experience the
cold you so obviously crave. *Strange it's true but that's the way of
life, each to their own..


Yeah, whatever.

Now go away you unpleasant little man.

*Plonk*- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Whoops, sorry I mentioned smoking........

now, back to the weather....

Jim Kewley[_2_] January 17th 09 11:14 PM

OT - Smoking
 
In message , Graham P Davis
writes
Jim Kewley wrote:

In message , Col
writes

Read what I wrote, idiot.
I wasn't slating smoking per se, rather if they were taking extra
breaks in order to do so.

Simple enough for you?


Interesting have I ever been personally insulting to you?

Why does any opposition to straight's views invariably end up with them
displaying hostility? It's not just you Col, you're all the same.

Moving further up Rivington Pike may (or may not) help you experience
the cold you so obviously crave. Strange it's true but that's the way
of life, each to their own..



Government Health Warning: Smoking may seriously damage your ability to
read.

Did I say I was a smoker??? ;-))
--


Jim

Jim Kewley[_2_] January 17th 09 11:17 PM

OT - Smoking
 
In message , Col
writes

"Jim Kewley" wrote in message
...
In message , Col
writes

Read what I wrote, idiot.
I wasn't slating smoking per se, rather if they were taking extra
breaks in order to do so.

Simple enough for you?


Interesting have I ever been personally insulting to you?

Why does any opposition to straight's views invariably end up with them
displaying hostility? It's not just you Col, you're all the same.

Moving further up Rivington Pike may (or may not) help you experience the
cold you so obviously crave. Strange it's true but that's the way of
life, each to their own..


Yeah, whatever.

Now go away you unpleasant little man.

*Plonk*




Whoops never upset the overgrown schoolboys or pensioners.

Unpleasant? Possibly I can be, but never very nasty, unlike the
straights.

Little? Not so sure; maybe 5-10 is a bit small these days though?
--


Jim


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