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Three GFS runs now indicate an easterly setting in during the first
week of Feb. However the Met Office is still going with zonal right to the end of the 15 day forecast period. So which will be right? Personally I hope that any further good cold spells will come before mid Feb - after that there'll be too much daylight to sustain possible snow cover, at least in the south. Linked to this, any mild spells after mid Feb will be much more welcome than at present as it'll feel like proper spring, at least down here.... Nick |
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:27:24 -0800, nick150971 wrote:
snip Personally I hope that any further good cold spells will come before mid Feb - after that there'll be too much daylight to sustain possible snow cover, at least in the south. snip Unless it keeps on snowing! (eg Kent, late Feb/early Mar 2005) -- Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl. |
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David Buttery wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:27:24 -0800, nick150971 wrote: snip Personally I hope that any further good cold spells will come before mid Feb - after that there'll be too much daylight to sustain possible snow cover, at least in the south. snip Unless it keeps on snowing! (eg Kent, late Feb/early Mar 2005) Come on lads, we've been here so many times! -- Keith (Southend) http://www.southendweather.net e-mail: kreh at southendweather dot net |
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On Jan 22, 6:27*pm, wrote:
Three GFS runs now indicate an easterly setting in during the first week of Feb. snip It would be fitting to see this winter culminate in at least 1 decent, old-fashioned snowy spell. It feels as if it's been gradually building up to something since the early start we had in October. - Tom. |
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![]() wrote in message ... Three GFS runs now indicate an easterly setting in during the first week of Feb. However the Met Office is still going with zonal right to the end of the 15 day forecast period. So which will be right? Personally I hope that any further good cold spells will come before mid Feb - after that there'll be too much daylight to sustain possible snow cover, at least in the south. Linked to this, any mild spells after mid Feb will be much more welcome than at present as it'll feel like proper spring, at least down here.... Nick The winter forecast was updated earlier today.. http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/.../winter2008_9/ Jon. |
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Tom Bennett wrote:
On Jan 22, 6:27 pm, wrote: Three GFS runs now indicate an easterly setting in during the first week of Feb. snip It would be fitting to see this winter culminate in at least 1 decent, old-fashioned snowy spell. It feels as if it's been gradually building up to something since the early start we had in October. - Tom. It's all after 7 days on GFS, you know it won't happen, don't punish yourselves again. Now wheres those pills? -- Keith (Southend) http://www.southendweather.net e-mail: kreh at southendweather dot net |
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Keith (Southend) wrote:
Tom Bennett wrote: On Jan 22, 6:27 pm, wrote: Three GFS runs now indicate an easterly setting in during the first week of Feb. snip It would be fitting to see this winter culminate in at least 1 decent, old-fashioned snowy spell. It feels as if it's been gradually building up to something since the early start we had in October. - Tom. It's all after 7 days on GFS, you know it won't happen, don't punish yourselves again. Now wheres those pills? Well I thought I hinted at a possible block going into Feb. a few days ago. Also PE a couple of weeks back. But where will it be? Conditions are coming right, the jet has sunk south and it cannot get any further south without breaking up due to decreased thermal contrast through diabatic warming of the cold air, and once that happens the longwave pattern re-aligns opening the door for a change of type. Easterlies are dynamically and scientifically sensible Keith, ECMWF has been hinting at a change of type too, also JMA both excellent models as we know. GFS won't get the detail we know that, but I would say that there is a 60% chance now of another block developing by the end of the month. Will -- |
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Will Hand wrote:
Keith (Southend) wrote: Tom Bennett wrote: On Jan 22, 6:27 pm, wrote: Three GFS runs now indicate an easterly setting in during the first week of Feb. snip It would be fitting to see this winter culminate in at least 1 decent, old-fashioned snowy spell. It feels as if it's been gradually building up to something since the early start we had in October. - Tom. It's all after 7 days on GFS, you know it won't happen, don't punish yourselves again. Now wheres those pills? Well I thought I hinted at a possible block going into Feb. a few days ago. Also PE a couple of weeks back. But where will it be? Conditions are coming right, the jet has sunk south and it cannot get any further south without breaking up due to decreased thermal contrast through diabatic warming of the cold air, and once that happens the longwave pattern re-aligns opening the door for a change of type. Easterlies are dynamically and scientifically sensible Keith, ECMWF has been hinting at a change of type too, also JMA both excellent models as we know. GFS won't get the detail we know that, but I would say that there is a 60% chance now of another block developing by the end of the month. Will -- Thanks Will, I thought my 'prod with a stick' might get a response ;-) All the same the weather is a lot more interesting atm, tonights low could throw up some news. Thanks -- Keith (Southend) http://www.southendweather.net e-mail: kreh at southendweather dot net |
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:13:26 +0000, "Keith (Southend)"
wrote: All the same the weather is a lot more interesting atm, tonights low could throw up some news. It is really very very quiet down here (apart from the vixen barking as normal) and its rather odd watching the pressure dropping off rapidly but very little wind, and light rain as I write (3.6mm since 1800) R Dorset |
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