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Just had a NOTAM issued by French ATC to say that both Paris Charles
De Gaulle and Orly will be closed from 1900 tonight until 0900
tomorrow due to the storm "Quentin" - that's going to have a BIG
impact on airline operators over the next 24 hours......

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Kevin Morgan wrote in message
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Just had a NOTAM issued by French ATC to say that both Paris Charles
De Gaulle and Orly will be closed from 1900 tonight until 0900
tomorrow due to the storm "Quentin" - that's going to have a BIG
impact on airline operators over the next 24 hours......



Lands End 977mB at 16.45
http://www.landsendweather.info/met/mainframe.htm


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Paris TAF

TAF: LFPO 091557Z 0915/1018 20015G35KT 6000 -RA BKN006 BKN012 TEMPO
0915/0918
BKN004 BECMG 0915/0918 20020G40KT TEMPO 0921/1012 22025G50KT RA PROB40
TEMPO 1003/1009 25030G60KT BECMG 1012/1014 30015G35KT 8000 -SHRA SCT008
BKN015

A tad lively!

RR

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Just had a NOTAM issued by French ATC to say that both Paris Charles
De Gaulle and Orly will be closed from 1900 tonight until 0900
tomorrow due to the storm "Quentin" - that's going to have a BIG
impact on airline operators over the next 24 hours......



Lands End 977mB at 16.45
http://www.landsendweather.info/met/mainframe.htm




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Just had a NOTAM issued by French ATC to say that both Paris Charles
De Gaulle and Orly will be closed from 1900 tonight until 0900
tomorrow due to the storm "Quentin" - that's going to have a BIG
impact on airline operators over the next 24 hours......


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7879664.stm

I don't recall this even happening in recent years, even when winds of
similar strength were forecast.

Jon.

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Just had a NOTAM issued by French ATC to say that both Paris Charles
De Gaulle and Orly will be closed from 1900 tonight until 0900
tomorrow due to the storm "Quentin" - that's going to have a BIG
impact on airline operators over the next 24 hours......


Ive not seen this before, but I guess they have learnt from the Low that
struck the SW of France on the 24th Jan causing the closure of a few
airports then.

Phil




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We weren't such wimps when I was an airline pilot. Unless
circumstances were exceptional (eg runway closed by snow) it was, at
least in my airline, the captain's decision whether or not conditions
were within limits. I would have thought that tonight's forecasts
suggest within limits for many operators.

Perhaps they are concerned about debris, objects, blowing around on
the ground. But it sounds an unusual decision.

Jack
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Jack ) wrote:
We weren't such wimps when I was an airline pilot. Unless
circumstances were exceptional (eg runway closed by snow) it was, at
least in my airline, the captain's decision whether or not conditions
were within limits. I would have thought that tonight's forecasts
suggest within limits for many operators.

Perhaps they are concerned about debris, objects, blowing around on
the ground. But it sounds an unusual decision.

Jack


Worried about turbulence spilling the Champagne in First Class maybe
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Looking at the metar history, the worst at de Gaulle (just behind the
cold front) was 27034G50KT (270 degs, 34 gusts 50 knots). That is
more or less straight down the runway so no serious crossswind
problems.

Before the front, 22033G47KT (220 degs, 33 gust 47 knots) so although
a crosswind, shouldn't have been a problem for modern aircraft.

It seemed to be a poor call before the event to close the airports -
it looks even less defensible with hindsight.

Jack
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I have been in planes that landed at Newcastle somewhat sideways a few
times, once everyone clapped as we touched down !............French
wimps !

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On 10 Feb, 13:34, MahFL wrote:
I have been in planes that landed at Newcastle somewhat sideways a few
times, once everyone clapped as we touched down !............French
wimps !


That was probably me "driving"! In the 1980s/1990s it was a regular
destination. I flew for Air UK.

Jack


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