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Your message there Will certainly struck a chord with me ,as my MP was
saying the other day 'one could fill ones moat with all this drivel,indeed
there is little room on ones island to accomodate ones ducks as it's knee
deep with drivel.'

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On Thu, 21 May 2009 at 18:34:08, Will Hand
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Is it me, or is the drivel on this newsgroup getting worse?


You're demanding better quality drivel?
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On 21 May, 18:34, "Will Hand" wrote:
Is it me, or is the drivel on this newsgroup getting worse?

Will
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Excessive number of tedious weather reports (especially from Belgium)
that are available elsewhere. I simply yawn at these and ignore (but
they take a lot of effort to discard).
The useful posts are fewer and further between.

Jack
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On May 21, 9:35*pm, "Dave Liquorice"
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On Thu, 21 May 2009 19:20:13 +0100, Nick Gardner wrote:
I don't think it is you, Will. This newsgroup seems to be fading.


Well, it's up to us to make sure it doesn't.


Aye, it has got quieter as far as posts that contain prose that is
interesting to read are concrened. I find that many of the times I look in
here most of the posts are [OBS] which I find rather tedious so just skip
them and any follow ups. So if any prose starts life in an [OBS] thread
it'll pass me by.

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Cheers
Dave.


The OBS do at least show that some people are still connected to
the actual weather as opposed to being solely concerned with the
rather remoter issues such as Global Warming and Arctic Ice. Some of
the OBS can be rather routine but it never does any harm to see what
someone else has got or has had.
There is a dearth of posts these days about the current
synoptic situation and how it will develop or how current weather is
shaping up to the forecast. Not enough people seem to actually go
outside and look at the sky. Maybe that's just sooo unsophisticated
compared to having a view on the Big Issues.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.
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Tudor Hughes writes:
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There is a dearth of posts these days about the current
synoptic situation and how it will develop or how current weather is
shaping up to the forecast.


Isn't that at least partly due to the time of year? A large proportion
of weather enthusiasts seem to be mainly interested in extreme weather,
and that is less likely in spring and autumn than in winter and summer.
--
John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always
pays off now." Anon
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John Hall wrote:

In article
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Tudor Hughes writes:
snip
There is a dearth of posts these days about the current
synoptic situation and how it will develop or how current weather is
shaping up to the forecast.


Isn't that at least partly due to the time of year? A large proportion
of weather enthusiasts seem to be mainly interested in extreme weather,
and that is less likely in spring and autumn than in winter and summer.



What has been noticeable over the years is that the majority of those on the
group who I know to be professional forecasters have largely steered clear of
predictions. Postings from them have been mostly related to the current
weather. Most "forecasts" posted on the group are from individuals who have not
earned their living at the sharp end of forecasting.

Perhaps those of us who have lived at the sharp end learned long ago not to
stick our necks out if we don't have to. We've seen it all go wrong so often in
the past :-(


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Norman Lynagh
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303m a.s.l.


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Norman wrote:
John Hall wrote:

In article
,
Tudor Hughes writes:
snip
There is a dearth of posts these days about the current
synoptic situation and how it will develop or how current weather is
shaping up to the forecast.

Isn't that at least partly due to the time of year? A large proportion
of weather enthusiasts seem to be mainly interested in extreme weather,
and that is less likely in spring and autumn than in winter and summer.



What has been noticeable over the years is that the majority of those on the
group who I know to be professional forecasters have largely steered clear of
predictions. Postings from them have been mostly related to the current
weather. Most "forecasts" posted on the group are from individuals who have not
earned their living at the sharp end of forecasting.

Perhaps those of us who have lived at the sharp end learned long ago not to
stick our necks out if we don't have to. We've seen it all go wrong so often in
the past :-(



That is probably a likely cause, Norman. Even Will has reduced his
forecasts to just his local area.

Another cause, though, are the many new computer users that seem to like
the gloss of forums over the ease of use of usenet. As more people
migrate across to forums, so the useful discussions get less, leaving
the newsgroups as prey to the trolls. I notice that even Darren Prescott
has now stopped posting his daily model interpretation in this group.
Yet he still posts it in UK Weatherworld. Is that perhaps an indication
that he has decided that this group has decayed too far?

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On May 23, 11:16*am, "Norman" wrote:

What has been noticeable over the years is that the majority of those on the
group who I know to be professional forecasters have largely steered clear of
predictions. Postings from them have been mostly related to the current
weather. Most "forecasts" posted on the group are from individuals who have not
earned their living at the sharp end of forecasting.

Perhaps those of us who have lived at the sharp end learned long ago not to
stick our necks out if we don't have to. We've seen it all go wrong so often in
the past :-(

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.


Quite understandable that current or recently-retired
professionals should not want to stick their necks out. Some
knowledgeable and relatively uncommitted comments would be good,
though. I would not be among those throwing sticks and stones if it
all went a bit pear-shaped. The situation on Tuesday in the east of
England looks potentially interesting but maybe one should not attach
too much weight to those occasional drama-queens, GFS. There is going
to be some very moist air over the near continent.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.



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On May 23, 11:16 am, "Norman" wrote:

What has been noticeable over the years is that the majority of those on
the
group who I know to be professional forecasters have largely steered clear
of
predictions. Postings from them have been mostly related to the current
weather. Most "forecasts" posted on the group are from individuals who
have not
earned their living at the sharp end of forecasting.

Perhaps those of us who have lived at the sharp end learned long ago not
to
stick our necks out if we don't have to. We've seen it all go wrong so
often in
the past :-(

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.


Quite understandable that current or recently-retired
professionals should not want to stick their necks out. Some
knowledgeable and relatively uncommitted comments would be good,
though. I would not be among those throwing sticks and stones if it
all went a bit pear-shaped. The situation on Tuesday in the east of
England looks potentially interesting but maybe one should not attach
too much weight to those occasional drama-queens, GFS. There is going
to be some very moist air over the near continent.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

=============

Tudor ISTM that there is likely to be two pulses of rain. the first on
Monday affecting SW Britain, this will be fairly modest but potentially
thundery. Another plume associated with higher Theta-ws is likely over SE
Britain late Monday into Tuesday, this could be vicious with frequent, hail,
thunder and lightning. It is a close run thing though as it could easily go
into the North Sea. I would say, Kent, E. Essex, Suffolk, perhaps Norfolk
most at risk.

Will
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On 23 May, 14:43, Howard Neil wrote:
Norman wrote:
John Hall wrote:


In article
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*Tudor Hughes writes:
snip
* * * There is a dearth of posts these days about the current
synoptic situation and how it will develop or how current weather is
shaping up to the forecast.
Isn't that at least partly due to the time of year? A large proportion
of weather enthusiasts seem to be mainly interested in extreme weather,
and that is less likely in spring and autumn than in winter and summer..


What has been noticeable over the years is that the majority of those on the
group who I know to be professional forecasters have largely steered clear of
predictions. Postings from them have been mostly related to the current
weather. Most "forecasts" posted on the group are from individuals who have not
earned their living at the sharp end of forecasting.


Perhaps those of us who have lived at the sharp end learned long ago not to
stick our necks out if we don't have to. We've seen it all go wrong so often in
the past :-(


That is probably a likely cause, Norman. Even Will has reduced his
forecasts to just his local area.

Another cause, though, are the many new computer users that seem to like
the gloss of forums over the ease of use of usenet. As more people
migrate across to forums, so the useful discussions get less, leaving
the newsgroups as prey to the trolls. I notice that even Darren Prescott
has now stopped posting his daily model interpretation in this group.
Yet he still posts it in UK Weatherworld. Is that perhaps an indication
that he has decided that this group has decayed too far?

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Howard Neil- Hide quoted text -

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Darren is still posting to this group daily, I'm pleased to say. He
gets up early, he posted at 5:33 this morning.

Graham
Penzance (where there was a bit of a mackerel sky this morning.)
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"Howard Neil" schreef in bericht
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: I notice that even Darren Prescott
: has now stopped posting his daily model interpretation in this group.
: Yet he still posts it in UK Weatherworld. Is that perhaps an indication
: that he has decided that this group has decayed too far?

On 17th May, Darren mentioned a problem which prevented him from posting to
Usenet via his ISP. He now posts via Google. Is your access to the NG
perhaps set up to exclude postings via Google ?

Colin Youngs
Brussels




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