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Put out an Egyptian tour brochure, and you could think of them as Desert
Foxes. As I walked the dog this afternoon, I noticed the poplars down by the stream were turning a vivid shade of brown. Autumn is definitely not too far away. And what happened to the wild blackberries this year? The crop locally was either non-existent, or very paltry and tasteless. jim, Northampton |
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![]() "jbm" wrote in message ... Put out an Egyptian tour brochure, and you could think of them as Desert Foxes. As I walked the dog this afternoon, I noticed the poplars down by the stream were turning a vivid shade of brown. Autumn is definitely not too far away. And what happened to the wild blackberries this year? The crop locally was either non-existent, or very paltry and tasteless. jim, Northampton Fantastic blackberries on dartmoor Jim. They need rain to swell and sun to ripen properly, like all berries. Will -- |
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On Sep 5, 2:10*pm, Howard Neil wrote:
Will Hand wrote: "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message . .. I saw the foxes in my garden looking very interested in a Caribbean Cruise brochure that had been discarded. *What does it all mean?? Leaves starting to turn here now Lawrence and house martins have left early. If I see a sheep farmer I'll ask him what it all means, oh ah! :-) Will -- But, on this newsgroup, we have our own way of telling what the winter will bring. Are you chopping logs yet, Will? ;-) -- Howard Neil Its that time of year we look for natures (!!) clues as to the coming winter........ I look every year and I'm I've only discovered one good one at the start of Autumn and that helps me to forecast the UK winter temperatures for the next, say, 50 years. The only clue from nature to the coming winter, for me, is that we are in a warming trend and nature has responded to it and warmed (I'm including the atmosphere and oceans in "nature" here. More of a meteorological gaia really!). The UK can't escape that trend, so the coming winter is likely to be warmer than the long-term Manley mean with regard to temperature. Likely; not certain. Using hindsight since about 1980, it's about about 75-80% likely. That does not mean that we can't get a cold winter and it does not mean we can't get a severe winter, it just makes both much less likely than they were three decades ago. It is likely that temperratures will be below average at some times this winter and it is likely that most areas will see some snow at some time. Exactly when, during the winter, is more of a mystery, though it is more likely to be Jan/Feb than December. What is as reliable as berries ripening in Autumn is that we'll soon get the good old raft of winter forecasts; most of these will predict really cold weather at some time, or another, between December and January, for this reason, or for that reason. Please read every one with a cynical eye, enjoy the good (sometimes "interesting" rather than good) meteorology and climatology......then pour a large bag of salt over each one, even though most will contain the cold that almost all Internet people (including me as long as it doesn't last long!) are hoping for. If the word "teleconnection" is mentioned in the forecast pour an extra bag of salt for good measure. The claims for the definite effects of how particular winter teleconnections will evolve, affect the UK and produce the coldest winter in X years, are often quite extraordinary. Mind you, someone will get lucky this year and get their monthly predictions almost the same as the winter's weather, but that does not mean they have a meteorological looking glass. It means they got lucky! As to the how the coming UK winter will turn out........no-one knows! (nature, especially) |
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Rain we've had, sun we haven't. Managed to cut the lawns yesterday, the
first time for over a month it hasn't rained for three days straight. And even then the mower kept clogging up all the time. And it did my back in, though a little(?) hedge trimming was probably more to blame. As for the blackberries, well. Normally I'll sit on the bank by the stream gorging myself on them while the dog gets on with what dogs do best. None of that this year; the grass has been too wet! I've asked around to find out whose been nicking them all, but no one has had any at all. First year for yonks we've had no blackberries - scandal. And chatting with the local allotmenteers, they can't give away their runner beans, they are inundated with the damn things. I froze a gift of 5lb last night, on top of 3lb last weekend, with more promised next week. I'll run out of freezer space soon. That must have been the fine weather we had earlier in the year (remember the promise of a long hot summer? Who said that?), and the rain over the last few weeks. Still, it was a nice dry warm day today for a change, and last week's winds didn't do too much damage in the recently cleared up woodland. Roll on winter, and then we can have a moan about it. Last winter's temperatures killed off my Passion Flowers; see what this year's will kill off. jim, Northampton |
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