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Default Joe *******i: an analysis of his USA winter forecasts 2005/6 to2008/9

This should convince anyone that his LRF record is hopeless and he, or
any of his followers has any right to claim that it is, because of a
couple of recent lucky guesses.

I researched his USA forecasts for 4 years, looked at the actual
outcomes, using the NOAA data and then compared the two in a
commentary. His 4 forecasts were next to useless. It’s a long read,
but I'd love to hear comments about this man's LRF prowess following
this analysis. If you don't believe me: look at the forecasts and the
outcomes yourself. If anyone lionises Joe's LRF ability after this,
they are a bigger charlatan than he is.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?repor...d=Get+R eport

Joe *******i USA Forecasting record. 2005-7

2005/6. Forecast for the Eastern USA.

A teeth-chattering, cold and snowy winter is predicted for the Eastern
U.S. starting in December. And more snow and cold are on tap for the
start of 2006, forecasters say.
AccuWeather meteorologist Joe *******i said the winter forecast calls
for colder than normal temperatures and above normal snowfall for the
eastern Great Lakes regions.
*******i bases his prediction on, among other factors, an active
hurricane season. Based on the 2005 hurricane season, and other
similar "hyper-hurricane" seasons in 1933, 1969 and 1995, *******i
concluded that the winters that followed each of those seasons were
typically cold and snowy in the Northeast.


Actual Outcome (NOAA)

December-February temperatures were much above average for the nation,
with most states, especially those in the central U.S., averaging
warmer than the long-term mean.
However, Accuweather, on its site, chose to concentrate on the last 2
weeks of the winter, when reporting to its clients;

Spin from Accuweather.

Beginning February, 4, 2005, Joe *******i consistently predicted a
dramatic change to colder weather for the Midwest and Northeast, to
begin about February 18. Meanwhile, the National Weather Service
predicted normal temperatures for that period. The price of April
natural gas bottomed out at $5.987 on February 18, but then the
weather turned colder as Joe had predicted. By March 9 the price had
risen to $6.880 due to increased demand. Joe's clients had two weeks
of advance warning of this opportunity.

Commentary.

The winter was the opposite of what *******i had predicted. It was a
warm winter. The Accuweather spin is very typical of what these people
do to gain business.

2006/7

Forecast:

*******i sums up his expectations for the upcoming December-to-
February period this way: "The eastern U.S. will experience a colder-
than-normal winter overall. The area from the eastern and central
Great Lakes to the south-central and south-western U.S. will
experience near-normal winter temperatures. The region that stretches
from the western Great Lakes to the Pacific Northwest will likely see
above-normal temperatures."

Actual Outcome (NOAA):

Winter:
December-February temperatures were near much above average for the
nation ranking 5th warmest on record. A record warm January dominated
the winter average. For information on temperature records during the
season, please go to NCDC's Extremes page.

Commentary.

The winter was the opposite of the cold winter that *******i had
predicted. The USA winter was warmer than average.

2007/8

Forecast:
JOE *******I’S ACCUWEATHER.COM WINTER FORECAST
The extended winter forecast for the months of November through March
calls for a cooler than normal start and end but the traditional
winter months, December through February, may be one of the top 10
warmest winters ever for the south-eastern United States. The heat
will be centered over the Tennessee Valley and the Carolinas. For the
nation as a whole, this winter will be warmer than last winter;
especially in the second half of January and February when last winter
season was at its coldest. When looking at the past three winters, we
find that population weighted, this may be as warm as the 1998-99
winter and the 2001-02 winters. Unlike the winter of 2005-06 and last
winter, where significant shots of cold and snow showed up in major
areas during 35-50% of the winter months, this winter may have over
75% of the days above normal in most of the nation southeast of line
from the Great Lakes to the Southwest. The only signal for below
normal is over the Pacific Northwest.

Outcome:

November
14th warmest November on record (1895-2006).
Fourth warmest November for the Northeast region.
Four states (Connecticut, New Hampshire, New Jersey and Rhode Island)
were record warmest during November.
January
49th warmest January on record (1895-2007).
Two states (Delaware and Maryland) were tied for 11th warmest January
on record. Nine states were cooler than average, including Colorado
and Texas.
March
For the contiguous United States, March 2007 was the second warmest
such month on record (based on preliminary data), 5.6°F (3.1°C) warmer
than the 20th century mean of 42.5°F (5.8°C). Only March 1910 was
warmer in the 113-year national record.
Commentary:

Completely the opposite of what *******i predicted. The warmth was at
the start and end of the winter and the cold was in the middle!

2008/9

Forecast.

Last week, AccuWeather's Chief Long-Range Forecaster Joe *******i
issued his 2008-2009 winter outlook. The outlook calls for an "overall
colder and snowier" winter compared to the last "several" winters for
the East Coast. About the winter *******i says:
"It may be a shock to some when compared with the above-average
temperatures of last year in the East. It will put some 'brrrrrr' in
the saddle of folks who have not had to deal with such things for a
while."
Keep reading for more on *******i's outlook. For the weather through
the week, see our full forecast.
*******i expects winter to assert itself in two blasts -- at the
beginning and at the end -- with a pronounced January thaw in the
middle.

Outcome.

For the contiguous United States, the average temperature for December
was 32.5°F (0.3°C), which was 0.9°F (0.5°C) below the 20th century
mean and ranked as the 35th coolest December on record, based on
preliminary data.

For the contiguous United States, the average temperature for January
was 30.5°F (-0.8°C), which was 0.3°F (0.2°C) below the 20th century
mean and ranked as the 49th coolest January on record, based on
preliminary data.

For the contiguous United States, the average temperature for February
was 34.9°F (1.6°C), which was 0.2°F (0.1°C) above the 20th century
mean and ranked as the 52nd warmest February on record, based on
preliminary data.

Commentary:
Although the winter overall had very slightly below average
temperatures, as Joe had forecast, the pattern was slightly colder at
the start, no mild January and above average at the end. Nothing like
what he’d forecast.

4 years, 4 poor forecasts for the USA. And he has the gall to
criticise the Met Office's forecasts for the UK.

*))



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Default Joe *******i: an analysis of his USA winter forecasts 2005/6 to2008/9

On 10 Jan, 20:44, Dawlish wrote:
This should convince anyone that his LRF record is hopeless and he, or
any of his followers has any right to claim that it is, because of a
couple of recent lucky guesses.

I researched his USA forecasts for 4 years, looked at the actual
outcomes, using the NOAA data and then compared the two in a
commentary. His 4 forecasts were next to useless. It’s a long read,
but I'd love to hear comments about this man's LRF prowess following
this analysis. If you don't believe me: look at the forecasts and the
outcomes yourself. If anyone lionises Joe's LRF ability after this,
they are a bigger charlatan than he is.

*http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?repor...8&month=2&subm...

Joe *******i USA Forecasting record. 2005-7

2005/6. Forecast for the Eastern USA.

A teeth-chattering, cold and snowy winter is predicted for the Eastern
U.S. starting in December. And more snow and cold are on tap for the
start of 2006, forecasters say.
AccuWeather meteorologist Joe *******i said the winter forecast calls
for colder than normal temperatures and above normal snowfall for the
eastern Great Lakes regions.
*******i bases his prediction on, among other factors, an active
hurricane season. Based on the 2005 hurricane season, and other
similar "hyper-hurricane" seasons in 1933, 1969 and 1995, *******i
concluded that the winters that followed each of those seasons were
typically cold and snowy in the Northeast.

Actual Outcome (NOAA)

December-February temperatures were much above average for the nation,
with most states, especially those in the central U.S., averaging
warmer than the long-term mean.
However, Accuweather, on its site, chose to concentrate on the last 2
weeks of the winter, when reporting to its clients;

Spin from Accuweather.

Beginning February, 4, 2005, Joe *******i consistently predicted a
dramatic change to colder weather for the Midwest and Northeast, to
begin about February 18. Meanwhile, the National Weather Service
predicted normal temperatures for that period. The price of April
natural gas bottomed out at $5.987 on February 18, but then the
weather turned colder as Joe had predicted. By March 9 the price had
risen to $6.880 due to increased demand. Joe's clients had two weeks
of advance warning of this opportunity.

Commentary.

The winter was the opposite of what *******i had predicted. It was a
warm winter. The Accuweather spin is very typical of what these people
do to gain business.

2006/7

Forecast:

*******i sums up his expectations for the upcoming December-to-
February period this way: "The eastern U.S. will experience a colder-
than-normal winter overall. The area from the eastern and central
Great Lakes to the south-central and south-western U.S. will
experience near-normal winter temperatures. The region that stretches
from the western Great Lakes to the Pacific Northwest will likely see
above-normal temperatures."

Actual Outcome (NOAA):

Winter:
December-February temperatures were near much above average for the
nation ranking 5th warmest on record. A record warm January dominated
the winter average. For information on temperature records during the
season, please go to NCDC's Extremes page.

Commentary.

The winter was the opposite of the cold winter that *******i had
predicted. The USA winter was warmer than average.

2007/8

Forecast:
JOE *******I’S ACCUWEATHER.COM WINTER FORECAST
The extended winter forecast for the months of November through March
calls for a cooler than normal start and end but the traditional
winter months, December through February, may be one of the top 10
warmest winters ever for the south-eastern United States. The heat
will be centered over the Tennessee Valley and the Carolinas. For the
nation as a whole, this winter will be warmer than last winter;
especially in the second half of January and February when last winter
season was at its coldest. When looking at the past three winters, we
find that population weighted, this may be as warm as the 1998-99
winter and the 2001-02 winters. Unlike the winter of 2005-06 and last
winter, where significant shots of cold and snow showed up in major
areas during 35-50% of the winter months, this winter may have over
75% of the days above normal in most of the nation southeast of line
from the Great Lakes to the Southwest. The only signal for below
normal is over the Pacific Northwest.

Outcome:

November
14th warmest November on record (1895-2006).
Fourth warmest November for the Northeast region.
Four states (Connecticut, New Hampshire, New Jersey and Rhode Island)
were record warmest during November.
January
49th warmest January on record (1895-2007).
Two states (Delaware and Maryland) were tied for 11th warmest January
on record. Nine states were cooler than average, including Colorado
and Texas.
March
For the contiguous United States, March 2007 was the second warmest
such month on record (based on preliminary data), 5.6°F (3.1°C) warmer
than the 20th century mean of 42.5°F (5.8°C). Only March 1910 was
warmer in the 113-year national record.
Commentary:

Completely the opposite of what *******i predicted. The warmth was at
the start and end of the winter and the cold was in the middle!

2008/9

Forecast.

Last week, AccuWeather's Chief Long-Range Forecaster Joe *******i
issued his 2008-2009 winter outlook. The outlook calls for an "overall
colder and snowier" winter compared to the last "several" winters for
the East Coast. About the winter *******i says:
"It may be a shock to some when compared with the above-average
temperatures of last year in the East. It will put some 'brrrrrr' in
the saddle of folks who have not had to deal with such things for a
while."
Keep reading for more on *******i's outlook. For the weather through
the week, see our full forecast.
*******i expects winter to assert itself in two blasts -- at the
beginning and at the end -- with a pronounced January thaw in the
middle.

Outcome.

For the contiguous United States, the average temperature for December
was 32.5°F (0.3°C), which was 0.9°F (0.5°C) below the 20th century
mean and ranked as the 35th coolest December on record, based on
preliminary data.

For the contiguous United States, the average temperature for January
was 30.5°F (-0.8°C), which was 0.3°F (0.2°C) below the 20th century
mean and ranked as the 49th coolest January on record, based on
preliminary data.

For the contiguous United States, the average temperature for February
was 34.9°F (1.6°C), which was 0.2°F (0.1°C) above the 20th century
mean and ranked as the 52nd warmest February on record, based on
preliminary data.

Commentary:
Although the winter overall had very slightly below average
temperatures, as Joe had forecast, the pattern was slightly colder at
the start, no mild January and above average at the end. Nothing like
what he’d forecast.

4 years, 4 poor forecasts for the USA. And he has the gall to
criticise the Met Office's forecasts for the UK.

*))


Have you sent this analysis to the man himself. I'd be very interested
to see his response...
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Default Joe *******i: an analysis of his USA winter forecasts 2005/6 to2008/9

On 10 Jan, 21:44, Dawlish wrote:
This should convince anyone that his LRF record is hopeless and he, or
any of his followers has any right to claim that it is, because of a
couple of recent lucky guesses.

I researched his USA forecasts for 4 years, looked at the actual
outcomes, using the NOAA data and then compared the two in a
commentary. His 4 forecasts were next to useless. It’s a long read,
but I'd love to hear comments about this man's LRF prowess following
this analysis. If you don't believe me: look at the forecasts and the
outcomes yourself. If anyone lionises Joe's LRF ability after this,
they are a bigger charlatan than he is.

*http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?repor...8&month=2&subm...

Joe *******i USA Forecasting record. 2005-7

2005/6. Forecast for the Eastern USA.

A teeth-chattering, cold and snowy winter is predicted for the Eastern
U.S. starting in December. And more snow and cold are on tap for the
start of 2006, forecasters say.
AccuWeather meteorologist Joe *******i said the winter forecast calls
for colder than normal temperatures and above normal snowfall for the
eastern Great Lakes regions.
*******i bases his prediction on, among other factors, an active
hurricane season. Based on the 2005 hurricane season, and other
similar "hyper-hurricane" seasons in 1933, 1969 and 1995, *******i
concluded that the winters that followed each of those seasons were
typically cold and snowy in the Northeast.

Actual Outcome (NOAA)

December-February temperatures were much above average for the nation,
with most states, especially those in the central U.S., averaging
warmer than the long-term mean.
However, Accuweather, on its site, chose to concentrate on the last 2
weeks of the winter, when reporting to its clients;

Spin from Accuweather.

Beginning February, 4, 2005, Joe *******i consistently predicted a
dramatic change to colder weather for the Midwest and Northeast, to
begin about February 18. Meanwhile, the National Weather Service
predicted normal temperatures for that period. The price of April
natural gas bottomed out at $5.987 on February 18, but then the
weather turned colder as Joe had predicted. By March 9 the price had
risen to $6.880 due to increased demand. Joe's clients had two weeks
of advance warning of this opportunity.

Commentary.

The winter was the opposite of what *******i had predicted. It was a
warm winter. The Accuweather spin is very typical of what these people
do to gain business.

2006/7

Forecast:

*******i sums up his expectations for the upcoming December-to-
February period this way: "The eastern U.S. will experience a colder-
than-normal winter overall. The area from the eastern and central
Great Lakes to the south-central and south-western U.S. will
experience near-normal winter temperatures. The region that stretches
from the western Great Lakes to the Pacific Northwest will likely see
above-normal temperatures."

Actual Outcome (NOAA):

Winter:
December-February temperatures were near much above average for the
nation ranking 5th warmest on record. A record warm January dominated
the winter average. For information on temperature records during the
season, please go to NCDC's Extremes page.

Commentary.

The winter was the opposite of the cold winter that *******i had
predicted. The USA winter was warmer than average.

2007/8

Forecast:
JOE *******I’S ACCUWEATHER.COM WINTER FORECAST
The extended winter forecast for the months of November through March
calls for a cooler than normal start and end but the traditional
winter months, December through February, may be one of the top 10
warmest winters ever for the south-eastern United States. The heat
will be centered over the Tennessee Valley and the Carolinas. For the
nation as a whole, this winter will be warmer than last winter;
especially in the second half of January and February when last winter
season was at its coldest. When looking at the past three winters, we
find that population weighted, this may be as warm as the 1998-99
winter and the 2001-02 winters. Unlike the winter of 2005-06 and last
winter, where significant shots of cold and snow showed up in major
areas during 35-50% of the winter months, this winter may have over
75% of the days above normal in most of the nation southeast of line
from the Great Lakes to the Southwest. The only signal for below
normal is over the Pacific Northwest.

Outcome:

November
14th warmest November on record (1895-2006).
Fourth warmest November for the Northeast region.
Four states (Connecticut, New Hampshire, New Jersey and Rhode Island)
were record warmest during November.
January
49th warmest January on record (1895-2007).
Two states (Delaware and Maryland) were tied for 11th warmest January
on record. Nine states were cooler than average, including Colorado
and Texas.
March
For the contiguous United States, March 2007 was the second warmest
such month on record (based on preliminary data), 5.6°F (3.1°C) warmer
than the 20th century mean of 42.5°F (5.8°C). Only March 1910 was
warmer in the 113-year national record.
Commentary:

Completely the opposite of what *******i predicted. The warmth was at
the start and end of the winter and the cold was in the middle!

2008/9

Forecast.

Last week, AccuWeather's Chief Long-Range Forecaster Joe *******i
issued his 2008-2009 winter outlook. The outlook calls for an "overall
colder and snowier" winter compared to the last "several" winters for
the East Coast. About the winter *******i says:
"It may be a shock to some when compared with the above-average
temperatures of last year in the East. It will put some 'brrrrrr' in
the saddle of folks who have not had to deal with such things for a
while."
Keep reading for more on *******i's outlook. For the weather through
the week, see our full forecast.
*******i expects winter to assert itself in two blasts -- at the
beginning and at the end -- with a pronounced January thaw in the
middle.

Outcome.

For the contiguous United States, the average temperature for December
was 32.5°F (0.3°C), which was 0.9°F (0.5°C) below the 20th century
mean and ranked as the 35th coolest December on record, based on
preliminary data.

For the contiguous United States, the average temperature for January
was 30.5°F (-0.8°C), which was 0.3°F (0.2°C) below the 20th century
mean and ranked as the 49th coolest January on record, based on
preliminary data.

For the contiguous United States, the average temperature for February
was 34.9°F (1.6°C), which was 0.2°F (0.1°C) above the 20th century
mean and ranked as the 52nd warmest February on record, based on
preliminary data.

Commentary:
Although the winter overall had very slightly below average
temperatures, as Joe had forecast, the pattern was slightly colder at
the start, no mild January and above average at the end. Nothing like
what he’d forecast.

4 years, 4 poor forecasts for the USA. And he has the gall to
criticise the Met Office's forecasts for the UK.

*))


Cor, bet that took a while. Pretty futile exercise, really, as he has
been generally perceived to get his forecasts right, certainly of
late, and that is what the general public notice. He also fully
explains his reasoning, and his thoughts on the climatic scheme of
things, rather than invent, adjust, pronounce, run and hide like,
well, we all know who...
Also of public notice, is the fact that the Met Office are
consistently shooting themselves in both feet, in their attempt to be
far too clever for themselves, trying to give a reasonably short term
forecast without prejudicing the longer term prognoses for years to
come for which they of necessity (for their governmental masters) have
to make us all believe it's going to be a LOT warmer, and we're all
going to scorch to death, or drown, or something.

Anyway, ANY forecast more than a day or two ahead (and even THAT's
problematical for the good old Met Office) is largely a guestimate,
otherwise the models wouldn't be continually changing, with the
forecasters regularly caught with their pants down. A lot of egg on a
lot of faces lately, I fear, and a hefty bonus, too, by all accounts,
for doing their masters' bidding, and telling it like it "is".

I think it's just a means to an end for you, Dawlish, to try and
discredit ANYTHING and ANYONE who has a different slant on the
vagaries of climate from your own ideas.

Clutching at straws is an expression that readily springs to mind.

Night, night - don't get frostbite...

CK
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This just about sums you up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyGx5MPPki4

Jealousy, that forecaster is so much better than me

I sometimes wonder, if this cold spell that we’re under
Could have been predicted by me for all this NG to see,

But no, it was that Damned Yank Joe *******i

My forecasts fall apart In just one lousy day

Especially when that Will is away

This Jealousy that tortures me could be ecstasy

If it weren’t for ******* Joe *******i



But I love him



I










"Dawlish" wrote in message
...
This should convince anyone that his LRF record is hopeless and he, or
any of his followers has any right to claim that it is, because of a
couple of recent lucky guesses.

I researched his USA forecasts for 4 years, looked at the actual
outcomes, using the NOAA data and then compared the two in a
commentary. His 4 forecasts were next to useless. It’s a long read,
but I'd love to hear comments about this man's LRF prowess following
this analysis. If you don't believe me: look at the forecasts and the
outcomes yourself. If anyone lionises Joe's LRF ability after this,
they are a bigger charlatan than he is.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?repor...et+R eportJoe *******i USA Forecasting record. 2005-72005/6. Forecast for the Eastern USA.A teeth-chattering, cold and snowy winter is predicted for the EasternU.S. starting in December. And more snow and cold are on tap for thestart of 2006, forecasters say.AccuWeather meteorologist Joe *******i said the winter forecast callsfor colder than normal temperatures and above normal snowfall for theeastern Great Lakes regions.*******i bases his prediction on, among other factors, an activehurricane season. Based on the 2005 hurricane season, and othersimilar "hyper-hurricane" seasons in 1933, 1969 and 1995, *******iconcluded that the winters that followed each of those seasons weretypically cold and snowy in the Northeast.Actual Outcome (NOAA)December-February temperatures were much above average for the nation,with most states, especially those in the central U.S., averagingwarmer than the long-term mean.However, Accuweather, on its site, chose to concentrate on the last 2weeks of the winter, when reporting to its clients;Spin from Accuweather.Beginning February, 4, 2005, Joe *******i consistently predicted adramatic change to colder weather for the Midwest and Northeast, tobegin about February 18. Meanwhile, the National Weather Servicepredicted normal temperatures for that period. The price of Aprilnatural gas bottomed out at $5.987 on February 18, but then theweather turned colder as Joe had predicted. By March 9 the price hadrisen to $6.880 due to increased demand. Joe's clients had two weeksof advance warning of this opportunity.Commentary.The winter was the opposite of what *******i had predicted. It was awarm winter. The Accuweather spin is very typical of what these peopledo to gain business.2006/7Forecast:*******i sums up his expectations for the upcoming December-to-February period this way: "The eastern U.S. will experience a colder-than-normal winter overall. The area from the eastern and centralGreat Lakes to the south-central and south-western U.S. willexperience near-normal winter temperatures. The region that stretchesfrom the western Great Lakes to the Pacific Northwest will likely seeabove-normal temperatures."Actual Outcome (NOAA):Winterecember-February temperatures were near much above average for thenation ranking 5th warmest on record. A record warm January dominatedthe winter average. For information on temperature records during theseason, please go to NCDC's Extremes page.Commentary.The winter was the opposite of the cold winter that *******i hadpredicted. The USA winter was warmer than average.2007/8Forecast:JOE *******I’S ACCUWEATHER.COM WINTER FORECASTThe extended winter forecast for the months of November through Marchcalls for a cooler than normal start and end but the traditionalwinter months, December through February, may be one of the top 10warmest winters ever for the south-eastern United States. The heatwill be centered over the Tennessee Valley and the Carolinas. For thenation as a whole, this winter will be warmer than last winter;especially in the second half of January and February when last winterseason was at its coldest. When looking at the past three winters, wefind that population weighted, this may be as warm as the 1998-99winter and the 2001-02 winters. Unlike the winter of 2005-06 and lastwinter, where significant shots of cold and snow showed up in majorareas during 35-50% of the winter months, this winter may have over75% of the days above normal in most of the nation southeast of linefrom the Great Lakes to the Southwest. The only signal for belownormal is over the Pacific Northwest.Outcome:November14th warmest November on record (1895-2006).Fourth warmest November for the Northeast region.Four states (Connecticut, New Hampshire, New Jersey and Rhode Island)were record warmest during November.January49th warmest January on record (1895-2007).Two states (Delaware and Maryland) were tied for 11th warmest Januaryon record. Nine states were cooler than average, including Coloradoand Texas.MarchFor the contiguous United States, March 2007 was the second warmestsuch month on record (based on preliminary data), 5.6°F (3.1°C) warmerthan the 20th century mean of 42.5°F (5.8°C). Only March 1910 waswarmer in the 113-year national record.Commentary:Completely the opposite of what *******i predicted. The warmth was atthe start and end of the winter and the cold was in the middle!2008/9Forecast.Last week, AccuWeather's Chief Long-Range Forecaster Joe *******iissued his 2008-2009 winter outlook. The outlook calls for an "overallcolder and snowier" winter compared to the last "several" winters forthe East Coast. About the winter *******i says:"It may be a shock to some when compared with the above-averagetemperatures of last year in the East. It will put some 'brrrrrr' inthe saddle of folks who have not had to deal with such things for awhile."Keep reading for more on *******i's outlook. For the weather throughthe week, see our full forecast.*******i expects winter to assert itself in two blasts -- at thebeginning and at the end -- with a pronounced January thaw in themiddle.Outcome.For the contiguous United States, the average temperature for Decemberwas 32.5°F (0.3°C), which was 0.9°F (0.5°C) below the 20th centurymean and ranked as the 35th coolest December on record, based onpreliminary data.For the contiguous United States, the average temperature for Januarywas 30.5°F (-0.8°C), which was 0.3°F (0.2°C) below the 20th centurymean and ranked as the 49th coolest January on record, based onpreliminary data.For the contiguous United States, the average temperature for Februarywas 34.9°F (1.6°C), which was 0.2°F (0.1°C) above the 20th centurymean and ranked as the 52nd warmest February on record, based onpreliminary data.Commentary:Although the winter overall had very slightly below averagetemperatures, as Joe had forecast, the pattern was slightly colder atthe start, no mild January and above average at the end. Nothing likewhat he’d forecast.4 years, 4 poor forecasts for the USA. And he has the gall tocriticise the Met Office's forecasts for the UK.*))

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On Jan 10, 8:44*pm, Dawlish wrote:
This should convince anyone that his LRF record is hopeless and he, or
any of his followers has any right to claim that it is, because of a
couple of recent lucky guesses.


Well as I've said before, I don't go along with JB's attitude towards
GW, but I sincerely hope his winter forecast for this part of the
world comes true :-)

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On Jan 11, 10:53*am, Natsman wrote:

Whatever. *It's public perception that counts,


Really? And I thought it was all down to facts and science. Silly me.
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