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Interesting looking at flightradar24.com - Not a single civil movement
over the UK and a lot of western Europe . . . . www.flightradar24.com I don't really understand why this is such a big deal though. Presumably the ash cloud is not 'that' dense otherwise we would have a blackout. Why then is it so important that aircraft avoid what seems to be a little bit of fine dust? I understand that the plane can suffer engine failures etc if it goes through dense cloud of volcanic ash but is that likely to happen at such limited concentrations? And will I have to clean the car again once it's all fallen out of the sky!!?? |
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On 15 Apr, 18:44, Neil wrote:
Interesting looking at flightradar24.com - Not a single civil movement over the UK and a lot of western Europe . . . . www.flightradar24.com I don't really understand why this is such a big deal though. Presumably the ash cloud is not 'that' dense otherwise we would have a blackout. Why then is it so important that aircraft avoid what seems to be a little bit of fine dust? I understand that the plane can suffer engine failures etc if it goes through dense cloud of volcanic ash but is that likely to happen at such limited concentrations? And will I have to clean the car again once it's all fallen out of the sky!!?? Are you going to be the one to volunteer to take a large passenger jet to Oslo at up to 30000ft? No, thought not. |
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In , Neil wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/y394h58 That covers jet planes, yes. But why have all propeller-driven aircraft been grounded as well? -- Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl. |
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Neil writes: Why then is it so important that aircraft avoid what seems to be a little bit of fine dust? I understand that the plane can suffer engine failures etc if it goes through dense cloud of volcanic ash but is that likely to happen at such limited concentrations? I think that past experience when aircraft have encountered such clouds elsewhere in the world indicates that the answer is yes. A jet engine must have an awful lot of air going through it, so it wouldn't need to be very concentrated dust for it to start clogging things up after a bit. I would imagine that any old piston-engined aircraft would be pretty much unaffected. -- John Hall "Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people from coughing." Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83) |
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:13:04 +0000 (UTC), David Buttery wrote:
In , Neil wrote: http://tinyurl.com/y394h58 That covers jet planes, yes. But why have all propeller-driven aircraft been grounded as well? Most prop aircraft are jets, turboprops, gas turbines. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. http://www.sandrila.co.uk/ |
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John Hall wrote:
In article , Neil writes: Why then is it so important that aircraft avoid what seems to be a little bit of fine dust? I understand that the plane can suffer engine failures etc if it goes through dense cloud of volcanic ash but is that likely to happen at such limited concentrations? I think that past experience when aircraft have encountered such clouds elsewhere in the world indicates that the answer is yes. A jet engine must have an awful lot of air going through it, so it wouldn't need to be very concentrated dust for it to start clogging things up after a bit. I would imagine that any old piston-engined aircraft would be pretty much unaffected. Execpt that the air filters would quickly get clogged -- --- zaax Frustration casues accidents: allow faster traffic to overtake. |
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:23:08 +0100, John Hall wrote:
I would imagine that any old piston-engined aircraft would be pretty much unaffected. How much dust would block the engine air filters? Even small aircraft have a cabin air system. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. http://www.sandrila.co.uk/ |
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http://tinyurl.com/y394h58
That covers jet planes, yes. But why have all propeller-driven aircraft been grounded as well? People are trying to tell me that gliders are also grounded. That is total nonsense. For heaven's sake, they don't *have* engines, and they are unlikely to get up to 55,000 feet. The UK height record is only 38,000 feet. Anne |
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