UAH global temperatures in July = +0.49C, 2nd warmest in 30 years -
130 I believe I erroneously said in the last post(!) - we'll have to
wait for NOAA and GISS to confirm that one).

I'm really quite stunned at these figures. Surface series to come in
the second third of the month. How can you have temperatures that
warm
when La Nina conditions exist in the Pacific and we are in an
extended
solar minimum?

On 3 Aug, 15:08, Dawlish wrote:
UAH global temperatures in July = +0.49C, 2nd warmest in 30 years -
130 I believe I erroneously said in the *last post(!) - we'll have to
wait for NOAA and GISS to confirm that one).

I'm really quite stunned at these figures. Surface series to come in
the second third of the month. How can you have temperatures that
warm
when La Nina conditions exist in the Pacific and we are in an
extended
solar minimum?

I smell a rat!

Record low temperatures across many parts of South America during
July. I also did a few spot checks with temperatures in Australia a
few days later, and guess what, they were also below normal.

I know it has been exceptionally warm in Moscow, but didn't someone
also post that temperatures were well below normal on the Eastern side
of the High Pressure in Russia at the same time.

I take the constant data being churned out saying that it's been the X
warmest month in X number of years with a large pinch of salt these
days.

Is there any regard taken of the fact that there is more land mass in
the Northern Hemisphere compared to the Southern Hemisphere? My point
being that there are large areas in the Southern Hemisphere without
any surface readings during what appears to have been a severe blast
of cold air from Antarctica mid month.

On Aug 3, 4:27*pm, Teignmouth wrote:
On 3 Aug, 15:08, Dawlish wrote:

UAH global temperatures in July = +0.49C, 2nd warmest in 30 years -
130 I believe I erroneously said in the *last post(!) - we'll have to
wait for NOAA and GISS to confirm that one).

I'm really quite stunned at these figures. Surface series to come in
the second third of the month. How can you have temperatures that
warm
when La Nina conditions exist in the Pacific and we are in an
extended
solar minimum?

I smell a rat!

Record low temperatures across many parts of South America during
July. *I also did a few spot checks with temperatures in Australia a
few days later, and guess what, they were also below normal.

I know it has been exceptionally warm in Moscow, but didn't someone
also post that temperatures were well below normal on the Eastern side
of the High Pressure in Russia at the same time.

I take the constant data being churned out saying that it's been the X
warmest month in X number of years with a large pinch of salt these
days.

Is there any regard taken of the fact that there is more land mass in
the Northern Hemisphere compared to the Southern Hemisphere? *My point
being that there are large areas in the Southern Hemisphere without
any surface readings during what appears to have been a severe blast
of cold air from Antarctica mid month.

Yes, of course there is regard taken; these are professional and
experienced scientists and you've got to remember that the couple of
areas you've mentioned are a very small part of the earth's surface.
Don't be fooled by the existence of colder areas during record global
temperatures; synoptically, they are *certain* to happen. No "rat"
just record warmth, despite La Nina conditions in the Equatorial
Pacific. A situation that has never happened during the temperature
record. The globe should be cooling rapidly now and it isn't. I do
expect a cooling to kick in soon, as would anyone else with an
interest in climate science, but it hasn't happened yet and the depth,
or shallowness of that cooling will be a very good indication of what
is causing the warming. The only other real possibility is the sun -
and with an extended solar minimum (and the PDO in a negative phase),
there simply has to be significant cooling over the next 12 months, or
it is CO2 which is driving the warming without a doubt.

The solar minimum may well have been serving to mitigate warming over
the last 3 years. If it has, watch what happens to global temperatures
when solar cycle 24 finally approaches a peak.

"Teignmouth" wrote in message
...
On 3 Aug, 15:08, Dawlish wrote:
UAH global temperatures in July = +0.49C, 2nd warmest in 30 years -
130 I believe I erroneously said in the last post(!) - we'll have to
wait for NOAA and GISS to confirm that one).

I'm really quite stunned at these figures. Surface series to come in
the second third of the month. How can you have temperatures that
warm
when La Nina conditions exist in the Pacific and we are in an
extended
solar minimum?

What I would like to know (as a scientist) is how these figures are arrived
at precisely? What data have been used? What are the error bars? What
"adjustments" have been made (e.g. area weightings)? etc etc. I guess I
could dig around and find out but I cannot be arsed ATM having a lot of
procrastinatability again :-)

Will
--

In message
,
Teignmouth writes
On 3 Aug, 15:08, Dawlish wrote:
UAH global temperatures in July = +0.49C, 2nd warmest in 30 years -
130 I believe I erroneously said in the *last post(!) - we'll have to
wait for NOAA and GISS to confirm that one).

I'm really quite stunned at these figures. Surface series to come in
the second third of the month. How can you have temperatures that
warm
when La Nina conditions exist in the Pacific and we are in an
extended
solar minimum?

I smell a rat!

Record low temperatures across many parts of South America during
July. I also did a few spot checks with temperatures in Australia a
few days later, and guess what, they were also below normal.

I know it has been exceptionally warm in Moscow, but didn't someone
also post that temperatures were well below normal on the Eastern side
of the High Pressure in Russia at the same time.

I take the constant data being churned out saying that it's been the X
warmest month in X number of years with a large pinch of salt these
days.

Is there any regard taken of the fact that there is more land mass in
the Northern Hemisphere compared to the Southern Hemisphere? My point
being that there are large areas in the Southern Hemisphere without
any surface readings during what appears to have been a severe blast
of cold air from Antarctica mid month.

Lawrence Jenkins recently posted a URL showing unusually warm
temperatures in Antarctica (for the latitude and time of year).
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

On Aug 3, 6:32*pm, Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote:
In message
,
Teignmouth writes

On 3 Aug, 15:08, Dawlish wrote:
UAH global temperatures in July = +0.49C, 2nd warmest in 30 years -
130 I believe I erroneously said in the *last post(!) - we'll have to
wait for NOAA and GISS to confirm that one).

I'm really quite stunned at these figures. Surface series to come in
the second third of the month. How can you have temperatures that
warm
when La Nina conditions exist in the Pacific and we are in an
extended
solar minimum?

I smell a rat!

Record low temperatures across many parts of South America during
July. *I also did a few spot checks with temperatures in Australia a
few days later, and guess what, they were also below normal.

I know it has been exceptionally warm in Moscow, but didn't someone
also post that temperatures were well below normal on the Eastern side
of the High Pressure in Russia at the same time.

I take the constant data being churned out saying that it's been the X
warmest month in X number of years with a large pinch of salt these
days.

Is there any regard taken of the fact that there is more land mass in
the Northern Hemisphere compared to the Southern Hemisphere? *My point
being that there are large areas in the Southern Hemisphere without
any surface readings during what appears to have been a severe blast
of cold air from Antarctica mid month.

Lawrence Jenkins recently posted a URL showing unusually warm
temperatures in Antarctica (for the latitude and time of year).
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
Could the colder temperatures over South America & warmer temperatures
over Antarctica be due to a Sudden Stratospheric Warming (SST) over
the Antarctic continent?

On 3 Aug, 20:04, Teignmouth wrote:
On Aug 3, 6:32*pm, Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote:



In message
,
Teignmouth writes

On 3 Aug, 15:08, Dawlish wrote:
UAH global temperatures in July = +0.49C, 2nd warmest in 30 years -
130 I believe I erroneously said in the *last post(!) - we'll have to
wait for NOAA and GISS to confirm that one).

I'm really quite stunned at these figures. Surface series to come in
the second third of the month. How can you have temperatures that
warm
when La Nina conditions exist in the Pacific and we are in an
extended
solar minimum?

I smell a rat!

Record low temperatures across many parts of South America during
July. *I also did a few spot checks with temperatures in Australia a
few days later, and guess what, they were also below normal.

I know it has been exceptionally warm in Moscow, but didn't someone
also post that temperatures were well below normal on the Eastern side
of the High Pressure in Russia at the same time.

I take the constant data being churned out saying that it's been the X
warmest month in X number of years with a large pinch of salt these
days.

Is there any regard taken of the fact that there is more land mass in
the Northern Hemisphere compared to the Southern Hemisphere? *My point
being that there are large areas in the Southern Hemisphere without
any surface readings during what appears to have been a severe blast
of cold air from Antarctica mid month.

Lawrence Jenkins recently posted a URL showing unusually warm
temperatures in Antarctica (for the latitude and time of year).
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

Could the colder temperatures over South America & warmer temperatures
over Antarctica be due to a Sudden Stratospheric Warming (SST) over
the Antarctic continent?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, I'm sure we're all aware of the three month lag behind sea
surface temperatures, which are rapidly cooling. Make hay whilst the
sun shines, it's getting cooler, a month or two here or there won't
make a lot of difference in the end...

CK

On Aug 4, 6:04*am, Teignmouth wrote:
On Aug 3, 6:32*pm, Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote:



In message
,
Teignmouth writes

On 3 Aug, 15:08, Dawlish wrote:
UAH global temperatures in July = +0.49C, 2nd warmest in 30 years -
130 I believe I erroneously said in the *last post(!) - we'll have to
wait for NOAA and GISS to confirm that one).

I'm really quite stunned at these figures. Surface series to come in
the second third of the month. How can you have temperatures that
warm
when La Nina conditions exist in the Pacific and we are in an
extended
solar minimum?

I smell a rat!

Record low temperatures across many parts of South America during
July. *I also did a few spot checks with temperatures in Australia a
few days later, and guess what, they were also below normal.

I know it has been exceptionally warm in Moscow, but didn't someone
also post that temperatures were well below normal on the Eastern side
of the High Pressure in Russia at the same time.

I take the constant data being churned out saying that it's been the X
warmest month in X number of years with a large pinch of salt these
days.

Is there any regard taken of the fact that there is more land mass in
the Northern Hemisphere compared to the Southern Hemisphere? *My point
being that there are large areas in the Southern Hemisphere without
any surface readings during what appears to have been a severe blast
of cold air from Antarctica mid month.

Lawrence Jenkins recently posted a URL showing unusually warm
temperatures in Antarctica (for the latitude and time of year).
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

Could the colder temperatures over South America & warmer temperatures
over Antarctica be due to a Sudden Stratospheric Warming (SST) over
the Antarctic continent?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The "cooler temperatures over South America" may be another case like
2007, when they turned out to be nothing of the sort overall. I may be
harping, but people keep repeating this story as if 60% of the
continent didn't exist.