uk.sci.weather (UK Weather) (uk.sci.weather) For the discussion of daily weather events, chiefly affecting the UK and adjacent parts of Europe, both past and predicted. The discussion is open to all, but contributions on a practical scientific level are encouraged.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Old September 17th 10, 03:26 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Feb 2007
Posts: 203
Default Veracruz, Mexico getting a direct hit by 'Karl' right now...

As I'm writing this at 2.15 pm GMT.
Karl is a cat 2-3 hurricane, sustained winds upto 200 km/hour.

But are getting no attention in the news (except maybe in Mexico).
If it was just a liitle further north it would a completely different story.
Veracruz is a port in the bay of Campeche, Gulf of Mexico with
a population of about 350.000.
Should also mention it's going directly towards Mexico City (pop
20 million...) and dumping large amounts of rain in the prosess.

Bjørn Sørheim



  #2   Report Post  
Old September 17th 10, 08:43 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,158
Default Veracruz, Mexico getting a direct hit by 'Karl' right now...


"Bjørn Sørheim" wrote in message
. ..
As I'm writing this at 2.15 pm GMT.
Karl is a cat 2-3 hurricane, sustained winds upto 200 km/hour.

But are getting no attention in the news (except maybe in Mexico).
If it was just a liitle further north it would a completely different
story.
Veracruz is a port in the bay of Campeche, Gulf of Mexico with
a population of about 350.000.
Should also mention it's going directly towards Mexico City (pop
20 million...) and dumping large amounts of rain in the prosess.

Bjørn Sørheim


Do you think the Mexican media will be giving the same coverage to Igor when
it hits Bermuda, don't be such a drama queen.

No doubt it's the fault of George Bush.


  #3   Report Post  
Old September 17th 10, 08:58 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,279
Default Veracruz, Mexico getting a direct hit by 'Karl' right now...

On Sep 17, 3:26*pm, "Bjørn Sørheim"
wrote:
As I'm writing this at 2.15 pm GMT.
Karl is a cat 2-3 hurricane, sustained winds upto 200 km/hour.

But are getting no attention in the news (except maybe in Mexico).
If it was just a liitle further north it would a completely different story.
Veracruz is a port in the bay of Campeche, Gulf of Mexico with
a population of about 350.000.
Should also mention it's going directly towards Mexico City (pop
20 million...) and dumping large amounts of rain in the prosess.

Bjørn Sørheim


Do you think the Mexican media will be giving the same coverage to
Igor when
it hits Bermuda, don't be such a drama queen.

No doubt it's the fault of George Bush.

In fact its on the USA Yahoo page
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/tropical_weather stop showing your hatred
of the west

  #4   Report Post  
Old September 17th 10, 11:47 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,184
Default Veracruz, Mexico getting a direct hit by 'Karl' right now...

On 17/09/2010 22:10, Bjørn Sørheim wrote:

..and to note that serious damaging and life threathening weather events
outside our (the west-ok) sphere sometimes get quite little media-coverage
considering their scales compared to a similar event in the US, UK or most
western countries.


Much of it depends on what else is going on in the world.

Often the UK media will cover US events if there is an increased
likelihood that British holidaymakers will be caught up in it, or if
there is a large damage bill/loss of life.

There may not have been anything about Karl up to now because yesterday
the storm was forecast to make landfall in a sparsely populated area.
There are more important things to report on than a hurricane hitting
desert. It is only earlier today that the storm jogged south and hit
Veracruz.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11342007

There will probably be something about Igor over the weekend if it
causes a lot of damage on Bermuda.
  #5   Report Post  
Old September 18th 10, 12:11 AM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Feb 2007
Posts: 203
Default Veracruz, Mexico getting a direct hit by 'Karl' right now...


"Adam Lea" skrev i melding
...
On 17/09/2010 22:10, Bjørn Sørheim wrote:

..and to note that serious damaging and life threathening weather events
outside our (the west-ok) sphere sometimes get quite little
media-coverage
considering their scales compared to a similar event in the US, UK or
most
western countries.


Much of it depends on what else is going on in the world.

Often the UK media will cover US events if there is an increased
likelihood that British holidaymakers will be caught up in it, or if there
is a large damage bill/loss of life.

There may not have been anything about Karl up to now because yesterday
the storm was forecast to make landfall in a sparsely populated area.
There are more important things to report on than a hurricane hitting
desert. It is only earlier today that the storm jogged south and hit
Veracruz.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11342007

There will probably be something about Igor over the weekend if it causes
a lot of damage on Bermuda.


But the thing is:
If a loose collection of clouds were fairly quietly trundling along
the Carribean towards Texas or New Orleans, not developing,
BUT at the same time the weather models saying that it may not
OR certainly may anytime now - turn into a cat 3 (major)
hurricane, possibly even cat 4 (because of warm waters), then
you would be certain that all of the US press would know it
instanly once it happened and be ready for it with press reporting
from the spot. AND at the same time this will be communicated
all over the place to UK, Japan or Norway and we would know
about it. Certainly after Katrina.
Once the track led Karl(92L) towards the middle of Mexico the
story was much less interesting for the US media and the rest of
the world as US media has much more media influence than any other
country - especially so concerning hurricanes. And that has a lot
to do with being able to just sell stories like this...
Be also aware of that this part of Mexico is quite heavily populated
compared to much of the US Gulf coast, making ignoring
a Mexico landfall 'a bit' strange...

Bjørn Sørheim




  #6   Report Post  
Old September 18th 10, 12:30 AM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Jan 2008
Posts: 75
Default Veracruz, Mexico getting a direct hit by 'Karl' right now...

"Adam Lea" wrote in message
...
On 17/09/2010 22:10, Bjørn Sørheim wrote:

There will probably be something about Igor over the weekend if it causes
a lot of damage on Bermuda.


Unlikely, given the importance that the news channels give to every detail
of the pope's visit.
--
Hungerdunger
To reply by email, remove the MARX from my address


  #7   Report Post  
Old September 18th 10, 01:10 AM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,158
Default Veracruz, Mexico getting a direct hit by 'Karl' right now...


"hungerdunger" wrote in message
...
"Adam Lea" wrote in message
...
On 17/09/2010 22:10, Bjørn Sørheim wrote:

There will probably be something about Igor over the weekend if it causes
a lot of damage on Bermuda.


Unlikely, given the importance that the news channels give to every detail
of the pope's visit.
--
Hungerdunger
To reply by email, remove the MARX from my address



That's ******** as well


  #8   Report Post  
Old September 18th 10, 03:48 PM posted to uk.sci.weather,sci.geo.earthquakes
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,777
Default Veracruz, Mexico getting a direct hit by 'Karl' right now...

On 17 Sep, 15:26, "Bjørn Sørheim" wrote:
As I'm writing this at 2.15 pm GMT.
Karl is a cat 2-3 hurricane, sustained winds upto 200 km/hour.

But are getting no attention in the news (except maybe in Mexico).
If it was just a liitle further north it would a completely different story.
Veracruz is a port in the bay of Campeche, Gulf of Mexico with
a population of about 350.000.
Should also mention it's going directly towards Mexico City (pop
20 million...) and dumping large amounts of rain in the prosess.


Odd, only a 6.3M so far:

2010/09/17 19:21 HINDU KUSH REGION, AFGHANISTAN
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak...uakes_all.html

What sort of darboarding does it have?

  #9   Report Post  
Old September 18th 10, 08:23 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Jan 2008
Posts: 75
Default Veracruz, Mexico getting a direct hit by 'Karl' right now...

"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
...

"hungerdunger" wrote in message
...
"Adam Lea" wrote in message
...
On 17/09/2010 22:10, Bjørn Sørheim wrote:

There will probably be something about Igor over the weekend if it
causes a lot of damage on Bermuda.


Unlikely, given the importance that the news channels give to every
detail of the pope's visit.
--
Hungerdunger
To reply by email, remove the MARX from my address



That's ******** as well

No it isn't. As an example, BBC news are currently giving unbroken coverage
of the prayer vigil. No news at 8.00pm at all. Maybe I'm biased, but I
don't regard a whole prayer vigil, even if it features the pope, as news.
The ten o'clock news for the last three days has given over about half its
time to his visit. Things like Igor are going to get scant coverage until
he goes home.

Just checked Sky News - same there.
--
Hungerdunger
To reply by email, remove the MARX from my address


  #10   Report Post  
Old September 18th 10, 08:54 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Aug 2003
Posts: 719
Default Veracruz, Mexico getting a direct hit by 'Karl' right now...


"Bjørn Sørheim" wrote in message
...

"Adam Lea" skrev i melding
...
On 17/09/2010 22:10, Bjørn Sørheim wrote:

..and to note that serious damaging and life threathening weather events
outside our (the west-ok) sphere sometimes get quite little
media-coverage
considering their scales compared to a similar event in the US, UK or
most
western countries.


Much of it depends on what else is going on in the world.

Often the UK media will cover US events if there is an increased
likelihood that British holidaymakers will be caught up in it, or if
there is a large damage bill/loss of life.

There may not have been anything about Karl up to now because yesterday
the storm was forecast to make landfall in a sparsely populated area.
There are more important things to report on than a hurricane hitting
desert. It is only earlier today that the storm jogged south and hit
Veracruz.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11342007

There will probably be something about Igor over the weekend if it causes
a lot of damage on Bermuda.


But the thing is:
If a loose collection of clouds were fairly quietly trundling along
the Carribean towards Texas or New Orleans, not developing,
BUT at the same time the weather models saying that it may not
OR certainly may anytime now - turn into a cat 3 (major)
hurricane, possibly even cat 4 (because of warm waters), then
you would be certain that all of the US press would know it
instanly once it happened and be ready for it with press reporting
from the spot. AND at the same time this will be communicated
all over the place to UK, Japan or Norway and we would know
about it. Certainly after Katrina.
Once the track led Karl(92L) towards the middle of Mexico the
story was much less interesting for the US media and the rest of
the world as US media has much more media influence than any other
country - especially so concerning hurricanes. And that has a lot
to do with being able to just sell stories like this...
Be also aware of that this part of Mexico is quite heavily populated
compared to much of the US Gulf coast, making ignoring
a Mexico landfall 'a bit' strange...

Bjørn Sørheim


Why strange, Bjorn? The residents there are mainly Mexican, not American.

Roger




Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Our city is getting 11F above normal temps right now Crackles McFarly sci.geo.meteorology (Meteorology) 0 August 19th 07 08:31 PM
Weather reports on BBC1 and NHS Direct. Robbie uk.sci.weather (UK Weather) 7 July 2nd 06 04:40 PM
Frances Getting a Little Better Organized over the Warm Waters of the Northeast Gulf of Mexico NewsBot Latest News 0 March 24th 06 09:00 PM
Ivan - direct hit at Grenada Bjørn Sørheim uk.sci.weather (UK Weather) 7 September 9th 04 05:56 PM
Bermuda faces direct hit from Hurricane Fabian Brendan DJ Murphy uk.sci.weather (UK Weather) 6 September 6th 03 12:22 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:18 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 Weather Banter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Weather"

 

Copyright © 2017