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On Oct 1, 11:27*pm, mumford wrote:
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Thanks for that. Ian MacAskill was regarded as a bit wacko by the
standards of the day but that forecast was one for grown-ups. It
didn't pander to the notion that it had to be entertaining and was
informative and useful. It didn't have to contend with childish gee-
whizz graphics but actually showed where the weather was coming from.
The personality of the presenter was only in evidence as earnestness
as opposed to current-day ****tishness. Some things really were
better in the past - it's not just me getting old(er). The science
gets better - the presentation becomes infantilised. What an irony!
Thank you, BBC, you fluffy-brained morons, for assisting in the rather
obvious decline of our media culture.
That day (presumably 7th Feb) was one of my "big ones". The min
was -11.0°C and the max -5.8°C, with 22 cm snow depth the following
morning. It is the lowest max in my record (27 yrs) apart from the
freakish -9.2°C on 12 Jan 1987.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey

Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Oct 1, 11:27 pm, mumford wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd6Du...eature=related

Thanks for that. Ian MacAskill was regarded as a bit wacko by the
standards of the day but that forecast was one for grown-ups. It
didn't pander to the notion that it had to be entertaining and was
informative and useful. It didn't have to contend with childish gee-
whizz graphics but actually showed where the weather was coming from.
The personality of the presenter was only in evidence as earnestness
as opposed to current-day ****tishness. Some things really were
better in the past - it's not just me getting old(er). The science
gets better - the presentation becomes infantilised. What an irony!
Thank you, BBC, you fluffy-brained morons, for assisting in the rather
obvious decline of our media culture.
That day (presumably 7th Feb) was one of my "big ones". The min
was -11.0°C and the max -5.8°C, with 22 cm snow depth the following
morning. It is the lowest max in my record (27 yrs) apart from the
freakish -9.2°C on 12 Jan 1987.

He even told us to 'wrap up well' but with a wind chill of minus 16C
he really meant it!
But was it true *Siberian* air though, I believe that this is pretty rare
in the UK.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

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Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Oct 1, 11:27 pm, mumford wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd6Du...eature=related

Thanks for that. Ian MacAskill was regarded as a bit wacko by the
standards of the day but that forecast was one for grown-ups. It
didn't pander to the notion that it had to be entertaining and was
informative and useful. It didn't have to contend with childish gee-
whizz graphics but actually showed where the weather was coming from.
The personality of the presenter was only in evidence as earnestness
as opposed to current-day ****tishness. Some things really were
better in the past - it's not just me getting old(er). The science
gets better - the presentation becomes infantilised. What an irony!
Thank you, BBC, you fluffy-brained morons, for assisting in the rather
obvious decline of our media culture.
That day (presumably 7th Feb) was one of my "big ones". The min
was -11.0°C and the max -5.8°C, with 22 cm snow depth the following
morning. It is the lowest max in my record (27 yrs) apart from the
freakish -9.2°C on 12 Jan 1987.

He even told us to 'wrap up well' but with a wind chill of minus 16C
he really meant it!
But was it true *Siberian* air though, I believe that this is pretty rare
in the UK.

Yeah that phrase "wrap up well" makes me laugh sometimes. Especially when I
have just come back from a bracing walk on a lovely sunny, snowy day in
winter with just a light fleece on and a F2-3 wind with a temperature of +1C
only to be told that it was "bitter out there" and to wrap up warm. OK we
are all different, in which case why say it?

Tudpor, I think the real sadness is on radio. Now the forecast is crammed
into a minute or so between news trailers and elements get left out like the
wind and sometimes even temperatures and whole areas of the UK.
Gone are the days when the presenters had 4 minutes to really go into detail
of temperature, wind and precip. *every* time. Of course news editors think
that is boring and stuffy, but far better that than sparse information!

Will
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Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Oct 1, 11:27 pm, mumford wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd6Du...eature=related

Thanks for that. Ian MacAskill was regarded as a bit wacko by the
standards of the day but that forecast was one for grown-ups. It
didn't pander to the notion that it had to be entertaining and was
informative and useful. It didn't have to contend with childish gee-
whizz graphics but actually showed where the weather was coming from.
The personality of the presenter was only in evidence as earnestness
as opposed to current-day ****tishness. Some things really were
better in the past - it's not just me getting old(er). The science
gets better - the presentation becomes infantilised. What an irony!
Thank you, BBC, you fluffy-brained morons, for assisting in the rather
obvious decline of our media culture.
That day (presumably 7th Feb) was one of my "big ones". The min
was -11.0°C and the max -5.8°C, with 22 cm snow depth the following
morning. It is the lowest max in my record (27 yrs) apart from the
freakish -9.2°C on 12 Jan 1987.

He even told us to 'wrap up well' but with a wind chill of minus 16C
he really meant it!
But was it true *Siberian* air though, I believe that this is pretty rare
in the UK.

Yeah that phrase "wrap up well" makes me laugh sometimes. Especially when
I have just come back from a bracing walk on a lovely sunny, snowy day in
winter with just a light fleece on and a F2-3 wind with a temperature of
+1C only to be told that it was "bitter out there" and to wrap up warm. OK
we are all different, in which case why say it?

Tudpor, I think the real sadness is on radio. Now the forecast is crammed
into a minute or so between news trailers and elements get left out like
the wind and sometimes even temperatures and whole areas of the UK.
Gone are the days when the presenters had 4 minutes to really go into
detail of temperature, wind and precip. *every* time. Of course news
editors think that is boring and stuffy, but far better that than sparse
information!

Will
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Yet the irony is Will we have forecasts on the BBC especially, practically
coming out of our bleedin' ears. On the breakfast show there's two every
half hour with usually Carol Kirkwood and some young unknown girl who used
to do the traffic report(in london). Then during the day I believe its every
hour, again with the national and then local. BBC news 24 again forecasts
right through the day. Radio five IIRC evry half hour. Trouble is though
they all all very shallow reports. Lets face it though the average person
isn't interested in lots of detail a bulk of the population couldn't even
point out where North was. So I'm sad to say the media networks have
probably got it right. Howevr , the internet give you wall to wall live
detail and most people that can point out north would be online anyway.

On Oct 2, 10:52*am, "Will Hand" wrote:
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Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Oct 1, 11:27 pm, mumford wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd6Du...eature=related

* * Thanks for that. *Ian MacAskill was regarded as a bit wacko by the
standards of the day but that forecast was one for grown-ups. *It
didn't pander to the notion that it had to be entertaining and was
informative and useful. *It didn't have to contend with childish gee-
whizz graphics but actually showed where the weather was coming from.
The personality of the presenter was only in evidence as earnestness
as opposed to current-day ****tishness. *Some things really were
better in the past - it's not just me getting old(er). *The science
gets better - the presentation becomes infantilised. *What an irony!
Thank you, BBC, you fluffy-brained morons, for assisting in the rather
obvious decline of our media culture.
* * *That day (presumably 7th Feb) was one of my "big ones". *The min
was -11.0°C and the max -5.8°C, with 22 cm snow depth the following
morning. *It is the lowest max in my record (27 yrs) apart from the
freakish -9.2°C on 12 Jan 1987.

He even told us to 'wrap up well' but with a wind chill of minus 16C
he really meant it!
But was it true *Siberian* air though, I believe that this is pretty rare
in the UK.

Yeah that phrase "wrap up well" makes me laugh sometimes. Especially when I
have just come back from a bracing walk on a lovely sunny, snowy day in
winter with just a light fleece on and a F2-3 wind with a temperature of +1C
only to be told that it was "bitter out there" and to wrap up warm. OK we
are all different, in which case why say it?

Tudpor, I think the real sadness is on radio. Now the forecast is crammed
into a minute or so between news trailers and elements get left out like the
wind and sometimes even temperatures and whole areas of the UK.
Gone are the days when the presenters had 4 minutes to really go into detail
of temperature, wind and precip. *every* time. Of course news editors think
that is boring and stuffy, but far better that than sparse information!

Will
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Couldn't agree more, Will. I hate phrases like "feeling colder
today" or similar. Just give me the temperature (and wind speed and
direction) and I'll tell you how it feels, which may be different from
how someone else feels.
I'm a great radio fan, especially R4, because the agenda is more
intelligent than television but the weather forecasts are clearly
regarded as an intrusion and as a result are a sad disgrace. I'd
better not get into a rant about this, having done so at great length
several times already. Lord Reith must be revolving in his grave at a
rate where Coriolis forces need to be considered.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.