It's starting to look a bit tasty for the last week of November.

Mittl Wolken http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2883.png
500 hPa http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2881.png
2m Dew Point http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn28810.png

On Nov 14, 10:55*am, Teignmouth wrote:
It's starting to look a bit tasty for the last week of November.

Mittl Wolkenhttp://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2883.png
500 hPahttp://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2881.png
2m Dew Pointhttp://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn28810.png

Holy Moses http://postimage.org/image/17b5a8tb8/

ECM also in agreement http://postimage.org/image/21c8ud6o4/
http://postimage.org/image/21cc5fvno/

"Teignmouth" wrote in message
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On Nov 14, 10:55 am, Teignmouth wrote:
It's starting to look a bit tasty for the last week of November.

Mittl Wolkenhttp://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2883.png
500 hPahttp://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2881.png
2m Dew Pointhttp://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn28810.png

Holy Moses http://postimage.org/image/17b5a8tb8/

ECM also in agreement http://postimage.org/image/21c8ud6o4/
http://postimage.org/image/21cc5fvno/




Now that does look a bit special. Oh please oh please let that all come off.
You know I can't recall the models so eager to keep placing high pressure
to our north so much-why. Can Will, Martin and co explain the mechanism that
would see high pressure building so readily over the north Atlantic and
then to the east over Scandinavia like the models have done of late?

Jet stream, sea surface temps ?

Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"Teignmouth" wrote in message
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On Nov 14, 10:55 am, Teignmouth wrote:
It's starting to look a bit tasty for the last week of November.

Mittl Wolkenhttp://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2883.png
500 hPahttp://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2881.png
2m Dew Pointhttp://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn28810.png

Holy Moses http://postimage.org/image/17b5a8tb8/

ECM also in agreement http://postimage.org/image/21c8ud6o4/
http://postimage.org/image/21cc5fvno/





You know I can't recall the models so eager to keep placing high pressure
to our north so much-why.


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But Lawrence - we have seen charts like that especially in the last two
years. Many with HP to the North. They've also always been two weeks
before the event like these ones. We have also seen them change
radically just two days before the start sometimes. Some of those were
in the middle of winter and not the end of November so I wouldn't start
getting too excited. Of course you never know but I wouldn't put the
chances of significant cold or snow at more than 10/1 against at this stage.
Dave

P.S - I've just remembered I have to make an important journey round the
north M25 on the 29th so the odds have just gone down a bit ;-)

"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
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Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"Teignmouth" wrote in message
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On Nov 14, 10:55 am, Teignmouth wrote:
It's starting to look a bit tasty for the last week of November.

Mittl Wolkenhttp://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2883.png
500 hPahttp://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2881.png
2m Dew Pointhttp://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn28810.png

Holy Moses http://postimage.org/image/17b5a8tb8/

ECM also in agreement http://postimage.org/image/21c8ud6o4/
http://postimage.org/image/21cc5fvno/





You know I can't recall the models so eager to keep placing high
pressure to our north so much-why.
---------------
But Lawrence - we have seen charts like that especially in the last two
years. Many with HP to the North. They've also always been two weeks
before the event like these ones. We have also seen them change radically
just two days before the start sometimes. Some of those were in the middle
of winter and not the end of November so I wouldn't start getting too
excited. Of course you never know but I wouldn't put the chances of
significant cold or snow at more than 10/1 against at this stage.
Dave

P.S - I've just remembered I have to make an important journey round the
north M25 on the 29th so the odds have just gone down a bit ;-)



Dave



We can't refer to the model archives as they record what actually happened
not what the models were guessing would happen. But regardless I can't
recall seeing the models placing massive highs to the north of the UK
stretching from Iceland to Scandinavia . Yes I 've seen the big
Scandi/Siberian highs to our east or north east or the Atlantic high ridging
far north and bringing us a northerly airstream but to my mind these recent
predicted placements seem odd and very reminiscent of dare I say it late
December 1978 and 62

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/ar...0119781229.gif

Or late December 62
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/ar...0119621230.gif

Of course we are now talking late November not December but this is exactly
what I mean

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1921.png taken straight from
tonights 12z GFS


Lawrence

On Nov 14, 5:31*pm, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"Teignmouth" wrote in message
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On Nov 14, 10:55 am, Teignmouth wrote:
It's starting to look a bit tasty for the last week of November.

Mittl Wolkenhttp://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2883.png
500 hPahttp://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2881.png
2m Dew Pointhttp://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn28810.png

Holy Moseshttp://postimage.org/image/17b5a8tb8/

ECM also in agreementhttp://postimage.org/image/21c8ud6o4/
http://postimage.org/image/21cc5fvno/

You know I can't recall the models so eager to keep placing high *pressure
to our north so much-why.

---------------
But Lawrence *- we have seen charts like that especially in the last two
years. Many with HP to the North. They've also always been two weeks
before the event like these ones. We have also seen them change
radically just two days before the start sometimes. Some of those were
in the middle of winter and not the end of November so I wouldn't start
getting too excited. Of course you never know but I wouldn't put the
chances of significant cold or snow at more than 10/1 against at this stage.
Dave

P.S - I've just remembered I have to make an important journey round the
north M25 on the 29th so the odds have just gone down a bit ;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Dave



We can't refer to the model archives as they record what actually
happened
not what the models were guessing would happen. But regardless I can't
recall seeing the models placing massive highs to the north of the UK
stretching from Iceland to Scandinavia . Yes I 've seen the big
Scandi/Siberian highs to our east or north east or the Atlantic high
ridging
far north and bringing us a northerly airstream but to my mind these
recent
predicted placements seem odd and very reminiscent of dare I say it
late
December 1978 and 62

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/ar...0119781229.gif

Or late December 62
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/ar...0119621230.gif

Of course we are now talking late November not December but this is
exactly
what I mean

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1921.png taken straight from
tonights 12z GFS


Lawrence

Teignmouth wrote in news:7bf090ef-b297-417f-b386-
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It's starting to look a bit tasty for the last week of November.

Interesting pressure patterns. One for the "if only it were January" drawer
- source isn't that cold at the moment, from the looks of it.

Cheers
Richard

On 14/11/10 10:55, Teignmouth wrote:
It's starting to look a bit tasty for the last week of November.

Mittl Wolken http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2883.png
500 hPa http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2881.png
2m Dew Point http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn28810.png

Looks cold and cloudy to me. Not cold enough for snow except over the
highest ground. Not what I would call tasty myself.

In article ,
Richard Dixon writes:
Teignmouth wrote in news:7bf090ef-b297-417f-b386-
:

It's starting to look a bit tasty for the last week of November.

Interesting pressure patterns. One for the "if only it were January" drawer
- source isn't that cold at the moment, from the looks of it.

But we're reaching the time of year when Scandinavia can cool down very
rapidly, if the Atlantic influence is cut off.
--
John Hall
"I look upon it, that he who does not mind his belly,
will hardly mind anything else."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84)

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In article ,
Richard Dixon writes:
Teignmouth wrote in
news:7bf090ef-b297-417f-b386-
:

It's starting to look a bit tasty for the last week of November.

Interesting pressure patterns. One for the "if only it were January"
drawer - source isn't that cold at the moment, from the looks of it.

But we're reaching the time of year when Scandinavia can cool down
very rapidly, if the Atlantic influence is cut off.

I hope the block sticks in place then - the models are pointing to below
average temperatures but not much more. Hopefully this block will have
some meaningful knock-on for further down the line.

Richard