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17.57 forecast from Laura - "......... and yes we are watching out for
heavy snowfalls Thursday and Friday" backed up by background video but
no clue as to which areas - as yet.
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the new graphics dont help and are just terrible

bring back the pre 2005? graphics.

On 22/11/2010 6:02 PM, Dave Cornwell wrote:
17.57 forecast from Laura - "......... and yes we are watching out for
heavy snowfalls Thursday and Friday" backed up by background video but
no clue as to which areas - as yet.
Dave


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Dave.

I don't think the areas will be specified because there won't be any.
We've been here many times before.

Len.

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17.57 forecast from Laura - "......... and yes we are watching out for
heavy snowfalls Thursday and Friday" backed up by background video but
no clue as to which areas - as yet.
Dave

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"GKN" wrote in news:ySAGo.152968$pr5.81910
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Dave.

I don't think the areas will be specified because there won't be any.
We've been here many times before.


You need high resolution models to get a feel for where the showers are
going to be off an easterly when most of the snowfall generation comes
from "Lake effect" style snow. None of the Met Office hi-res models will
be running out further than Wednesday which might explain the reticence
towards pin-pointing the specific areas.

If you look at today's GFS 00Z T+18 and compare this with the radar
image:

http://expert.weatheronline.co.uk/da.../11/22/basis00
/ukuk/prec/10112221_2200.gif
http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/daten...11/22/1800.gif

you can see how the GFS (lower resolution global model) really isn't
getting much of the showers coming inland north of the Wash. To be fair
the channel showers and those to the south-east of Ireland have been
resolved.

This could be a reason as to why they can't pick actual locations just
yet.

Richard
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Dave.

I don't think the areas will be specified because there won't be any.
We've been here many times before.

Len.

"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
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17.57 forecast from Laura - "......... and yes we are watching out for
heavy snowfalls Thursday and Friday" backed up by background video but
no clue as to which areas - as yet.
Dave


Often the focus for these broadcasts is the next day and the day after,
hence it must just be that there wasn't much time to go into the detail of
the existing advisories for day 3 and 4.

Jon.



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"GKN" wrote in news:ySAGo.152968$pr5.81910
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Dave.

I don't think the areas will be specified because there won't be any.
We've been here many times before.


You need high resolution models to get a feel for where the showers are
going to be off an easterly when most of the snowfall generation comes
from "Lake effect" style snow. None of the Met Office hi-res models will
be running out further than Wednesday which might explain the reticence
towards pin-pointing the specific areas.


The high resolution models will certainly help but it's often ensemble based
products from suites such as MOGREPS that drive the assessment of risk and
probability in both the short and medium range. A rather apt example can be
seen here
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research...lity42-lb1.jpg

The future's bright, the future's ensembles :-)

Jon.

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Jon O'Rourke wrote:
"GKN" wrote in message
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Dave.

I don't think the areas will be specified because there won't be any.
We've been here many times before.

Len.

"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
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17.57 forecast from Laura - "......... and yes we are watching out for
heavy snowfalls Thursday and Friday" backed up by background video but
no clue as to which areas - as yet.
Dave


Often the focus for these broadcasts is the next day and the day after,
hence it must just be that there wasn't much time to go into the detail
of the existing advisories for day 3 and 4.

Jon.

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My wording may have been bad. I wouldn't have expected any detail at
this stage, I didn't mean she didn't have a clue, I wouldn't expect
anyone to know that for sure just yet ;-)
Dave
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its going to hit east angular

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"GKN" wrote in news:ySAGo.152968$pr5.81910
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Dave.

I don't think the areas will be specified because there won't be any.
We've been here many times before.


You need high resolution models to get a feel for where the showers are
going to be off an easterly when most of the snowfall generation comes
from "Lake effect" style snow. None of the Met Office hi-res models will
be running out further than Wednesday which might explain the reticence
towards pin-pointing the specific areas.

If you look at today's GFS 00Z T+18 and compare this with the radar
image:

http://expert.weatheronline.co.uk/da.../11/22/basis00
/ukuk/prec/10112221_2200.gif
http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/daten...11/22/1800.gif

you can see how the GFS (lower resolution global model) really isn't
getting much of the showers coming inland north of the Wash. To be fair
the channel showers and those to the south-east of Ireland have been
resolved.

This could be a reason as to why they can't pick actual locations just
yet.

Richard




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