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I'm confident enough to say that a pattern change is coming. Agreement
and consistency throughout today from the gfs and ECM. **By Sun 6th Feb, at T240, the anticyclonic, colder and drier weather of the end of January, will have been replaced by wet and windy weather for much of the UK. Lows passing to the north of the UK and higher pressure to the south will produce an airflow from the Atlantic. The UK will be experiencing few frosts and many areas will be experiencing average to above average early February temperatures**. |
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On Jan 27, 9:23*pm, Dawlish wrote:
I'm confident enough to say that a pattern change is coming. Agreement and consistency throughout today from the gfs and ECM. **By Sun 6th Feb, at T240, the anticyclonic, colder and drier weather of the end of January, will have been replaced by wet and windy weather for much of the UK. Lows passing to the north of the UK and higher pressure to the south will produce an airflow from the Atlantic. The UK will be experiencing few frosts and many areas will be experiencing average to above average early February temperatures**. Won't at all be surprised if this happens even as early as mid to end of next week. |
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On Jan 27, 10:21*pm, Alan wrote:
On Jan 27, 9:23*pm, Dawlish wrote: I'm confident enough to say that a pattern change is coming. Agreement and consistency throughout today from the gfs and ECM. **By Sun 6th Feb, at T240, the anticyclonic, colder and drier weather of the end of January, will have been replaced by wet and windy weather for much of the UK. Lows passing to the north of the UK and higher pressure to the south will produce an airflow from the Atlantic. The UK will be experiencing few frosts and many areas will be experiencing average to above average early February temperatures**. Won't at all be surprised if this happens even as early as mid to end of next week. May well be so Alan, starting in the NW next week and some fronts may well make it to the SE soon after. However, high pressure looks like it will keep its influence for longer in the south. Very typical zonal conditions in the UK really. The Atlantic almost seems to be winding itself up for a UK onslaught at 8-10 days on the 00z gfs and the 00z ECM and this looks like it will be fuelled by the strongest and the flattest jet, at the latitudes of the UK, of the winter so far. I don't see it as being terrificallly mild, though, just average to above average temperatures at 10 days, but there may well be some nice days in any transient ridges and on the days that the higher pressure re-establishes itself in the south. Here in Dawlish, I'm looking forward to some fairly clement conditions until the Atlantic (perhaps) really gets going, after these foul easterlies disappear with this short live colder spell, probably after Monday. Some rain, from time to time, but nothing particularly cold and hopefully some sunshine on the weather horizon! |
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On Jan 28, 7:43*am, Dawlish wrote:
On Jan 27, 10:21*pm, Alan wrote: On Jan 27, 9:23*pm, Dawlish wrote: I'm confident enough to say that a pattern change is coming. Agreement and consistency throughout today from the gfs and ECM. **By Sun 6th Feb, at T240, the anticyclonic, colder and drier weather of the end of January, will have been replaced by wet and windy weather for much of the UK. Lows passing to the north of the UK and higher pressure to the south will produce an airflow from the Atlantic. The UK will be experiencing few frosts and many areas will be experiencing average to above average early February temperatures**. Won't at all be surprised if this happens even as early as mid to end of next week. May well be so Alan, starting in the NW next week and some fronts may well make it to the SE soon after. However, high pressure looks like it will keep its influence for longer in the south. Very typical zonal conditions in the UK really. The Atlantic almost seems to be winding itself up for a UK onslaught at 8-10 days on the 00z gfs and the 00z ECM and this looks like it will be fuelled by the strongest and the flattest jet, at the latitudes of the UK, of the winter so far. I don't see it as being terrificallly mild, though, just average to above average temperatures at 10 days, but there may well be some nice days in any transient ridges and on the days that the higher pressure re-establishes itself in the south. Here in Dawlish, I'm looking forward to some fairly clement conditions until the Atlantic (perhaps) really gets going, after these foul easterlies disappear with this short live colder spell, probably after Monday. Some rain, from time to time, but nothing particularly cold and hopefully some sunshine on the weather horizon! Ensembles certainly back a change through the first week in Feb. http://www.meteogroup.co.uk/uk/home/..._forecast.html ..........and the MetO agree too. UK Outlook for Wednesday 2 Feb 2011 to Friday 11 Feb 2011: The early to mid part of next week is expected to mark a transition from the current relatively settled conditions to a much more changeable, unsettled, and often windy weather type. These unsettled conditions, marked by spells of clearer, showery weather alternating with cloudier periods with more widespread rain, will then persist across the UK through the rest of next week and onwards through the following week. Rain will be heavy at times, especially to the north and west, whilst showers will occasionally be wintry, particularly over northern regions. Often windy, with gales or severe gales possible some days, with northwestern Britain most at risk. Meanwhile, considerable day-to-day fluctuations in temperature are expected, some days being quite mild, whilst showery days will often also be colder. Updated: 1141 on Fri 28 Jan 2011 Pattern change highly likely. Perhaps the first real unsettled and zonal weather of the winter? |
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On Jan 27, 10:21*pm, Alan wrote:
On Jan 27, 9:23*pm, Dawlish wrote: I'm confident enough to say that a pattern change is coming. Won't at all be surprised if this happens even as early as mid to end of next week. All your base are belong High. And some fool reckons that will change, eh? My, my. Well, one lives and learns. Meanwhile, on planet earth, the High is no longer providing drizzle. 4 mag 7 quakes in less than 3 weeks and another to come when Mr Dullwish gets his act together and makes it plain just what and when: Magnitude 7.2 SOUTHWESTERN PAKISTAN January 18, 2011 Magnitude 7.0 LOYALTY ISLANDS January 13, 2011 Magnitude 7.1 ARAUCANIA, CHILE January 02, 2011 Magnitude 7.0 SANTIAGO DEL ESTERO, ARGENTINA January 01, 2011 http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqinthenews/ I'd bet a tenner on Bonin Islands. Meanwhile the blocking high stopping the Low leaving USA at the moment must be getting the Aleutians trembling. I wonder what the North Atlantic set-up was like for severe San Francisco/Californian quakes ^n times past. Where is Felix Tilley when you don't need him? |
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, Dawlish writes: Ensembles certainly back a change through the first week in Feb. http://www.meteogroup.co.uk/uk/home/..._forecast.html .........and the MetO agree too. UK Outlook for Wednesday 2 Feb 2011 to Friday 11 Feb 2011: The early to mid part of next week is expected to mark a transition from the current relatively settled conditions to a much more changeable, unsettled, and often windy weather type. snip Pattern change highly likely. Yes. As near certain as these things can ever be, I think. Perhaps the first real unsettled and zonal weather of the winter? Depends whether the spell while you were away qualifies as that, I suppose. Interesting that the MetO Outlook for the following two weeks indicates that they then expect things to settle down again, especially in the south. -- John Hall "The covers of this book are too far apart." Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914) |
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On Jan 28, 6:20*pm, John Hall wrote:
In article , *Dawlish writes: Ensembles certainly back a change through the first week in Feb. http://www.meteogroup.co.uk/uk/home/...semble_forecas... .........and the MetO agree too. UK Outlook for Wednesday 2 Feb 2011 to Friday 11 Feb 2011: The early to mid part of next week is expected to mark a transition from the current relatively settled conditions to a much more changeable, unsettled, and often windy weather type. snip Pattern change highly likely. Yes. As near certain as these things can ever be, I think. Though it looks like the whole of next week will remain settled in the south, if mild from about Wednesday/Thursday onwards. Perhaps the first real unsettled and zonal weather of the winter? Depends whether the spell while you were away qualifies as that, I suppose. I'd say it did. Interesting that the MetO Outlook for the following two weeks indicates that they then expect things to settle down again, especially in the south. -- Often seems to be that way, it's quite frequent to find a very disturbed period early February which doesn't last the whole month (see other post on patterns). Nick |
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On Jan 28, 6:37*pm, Nick wrote:
On Jan 28, 6:20*pm, John Hall wrote: In article , *Dawlish writes: Ensembles certainly back a change through the first week in Feb. http://www.meteogroup.co.uk/uk/home/...semble_forecas.... .........and the MetO agree too. UK Outlook for Wednesday 2 Feb 2011 to Friday 11 Feb 2011: The early to mid part of next week is expected to mark a transition from the current relatively settled conditions to a much more changeable, unsettled, and often windy weather type. snip Pattern change highly likely. Yes. As near certain as these things can ever be, I think. Though it looks like the whole of next week will remain settled in the south, if mild from about Wednesday/Thursday onwards. Perhaps the first real unsettled and zonal weather of the winter? Depends whether the spell while you were away qualifies as that, I suppose. I'd say it did. Interesting that the MetO Outlook for the following two weeks indicates that they then expect things to settle down again, especially in the south. -- Often seems to be that way, it's quite frequent to find a very disturbed period early February which doesn't last the whole month (see other post on patterns). Nick- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - 12z ECM and gfs pointing to Atlantic weather out to 10 days, after these cooler conditions disappear early next week. The 12z gfs is suggesting an extended period of Atlantic weather and some very mild conditions towards mid-month. Pile of salt stuff with that though. Too far out for confidence. Mind you, looking at those present models, I'll bet those hopecasters at Weather Services International are biting their fingernails and praying for a change in the zonal and increasingly milder model outlook! The Daily Over-Expressive won't mind. Their hack will just ditch that bunch and find someone else that will tell them that we're bound to get blizzards in March. That'll make a good story for it's comatose readership to nod in agreement and then not think any more about. WSI could still guess right, of course and they'd then be the forecasting darlings of the day! Never judge a forecast until outcome, I say! *)) |
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Now that you have perfected your technique for forecasting at 10 days
when the models are in agreement, have you considered developing your skills further to maybe making a forecast once a week every week for your home town? I know this is a little more difficult, so at first you might like to consider making a forecast on a Sunday (no help from Country File) for say the the following Friday or Saturday, and once you've perfected that move the day back one until you reach the magical 10 days again. The forecast doesn't have to be exact, general conditions, wind from a particular quarter & max/min temps give or take say 2°C is sufficient. I used to run a similar competition on another forum, moving the location each week, with points being issued, it was great fun. As we live in neighbouring towns with a similar climate, if you make a forecast for Dawlish/Teignmouth on Sunday for the following Friday I will do the same for each week during February. Anyone else can join in if they wish. Gauntlet thrown down! |
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, Teignmouth writes Now that you have perfected your technique for forecasting at 10 days when the models are in agreement, have you considered developing your skills further to maybe making a forecast once a week every week for your home town? I know this is a little more difficult, so at first you might like to consider making a forecast on a Sunday (no help from Country File) for say the the following Friday or Saturday, and once you've perfected that move the day back one until you reach the magical 10 days again. The forecast doesn't have to be exact, general conditions, wind from a particular quarter & max/min temps give or take say 2°C is sufficient. I used to run a similar competition on another forum, moving the location each week, with points being issued, it was great fun. As we live in neighbouring towns with a similar climate, if you make a forecast for Dawlish/Teignmouth on Sunday for the following Friday I will do the same for each week during February. Anyone else can join in if they wish. Gauntlet thrown down! I'm wholly confident that evenings will get lighter later and mornings lighter earlier. I'll also throw in that the sun will get higher in the sky until mid/late June. Come on now put your money where your mouth is! ;-)) -- Jim |
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