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On May 16, 3:19*pm, Joe Egginton wrote:
On 16/05/2011 12:15, Martin Brown wrote:





I am generally fairly sceptical about most crop circles as so many have
been faked. But I happened to notice on the Doomsday programme on
Saturday night that one of their tracking aerial helicopter views of Old
Sarum, Wiltshire included by chance what looks to me like a genuine and
fairly complex crop circle at the bottom left corner of the frame.


The relevant part can be seen using BBC iPlayer at 54:15-54:24 into the
programme with best overall view at 54:19:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00sj8fc/Domesday/


The crop circle looks to be new with sharply defined edges as compared
to the tractor lines which are also visible where it turned at the field
boundaries. It looks natural enough...


Regards,
Martin Brown


I've always been of the opinion that most crop circles are fake, the few
that are genuine are probably something to do with local strong magnetic
fields.

Joe Egginton
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How are crops affected my magnetic fields?

Be handy for the farmers when harvesting just a couple of these and
job done http://www.magnet-services.co.uk/mac...omponents.html

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On Mon, 16 May 2011 13:08:41 +0100, Martin Brown wrote:

Faked in this context means a bunch of students or other pranksters
wearing planks on their shoes putting one over on crop circle watchers.
There have been some (in)famous examples since the late 70's.


Ah, I see. I tend to the view that the rope and plank method is the only
means of constructing a crop circle (in all cases). I would be very
happy to be wrong but I am not optimistic.


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On 16/05/2011 15:42, Martin Brown wrote:
On 16/05/2011 15:19, Joe Egginton wrote:
On 16/05/2011 12:15, Martin Brown wrote:
I am generally fairly sceptical about most crop circles as so many have
been faked. But I happened to notice on the Doomsday programme on

[snip]
The crop circle looks to be new with sharply defined edges as compared
to the tractor lines which are also visible where it turned at the field
boundaries. It looks natural enough...


I've always been of the opinion that most crop circles are fake, the few
that are genuine are probably something to do with local strong magnetic
fields.


Have to be one heck of a magnetic field to do that to straw!

Spiral whirlwinds touching down might well be the explanation. It would
be really nice if someone saw one being created and videoed it.

Regards,
Martin Brown



http://tinyurl.com/3dxl2m9
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On May 16, 6:46*pm, Joe Egginton wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/3dxl2m9


The author admits that there has never been any evidence for circles
related to tornadoes or whirlwinds. Few remain stationary anyway. So
would leave an untidy linear design. A brief but exciting 20ft high
"twister" in a crop right outside our garden resulted in no visible
change on the ground despite considerable airborne debris. The vast
majority of circles are strangely localised to circles of hoaxers in
the west of England. Though I'd be fascinated to see exactly how they
manage a complex design.



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On 16/05/2011 12:15, Martin Brown wrote:
I am generally fairly sceptical about most crop circles as so many have
been faked. But I happened to notice on the Doomsday programme on
Saturday night that one of their tracking aerial helicopter views of Old
Sarum, Wiltshire included by chance what looks to me like a genuine and
fairly complex crop circle at the bottom left corner of the frame.

The relevant part can be seen using BBC iPlayer at 54:15-54:24 into the
programme with best overall view at 54:19:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00sj8fc/Domesday/

The crop circle looks to be new with sharply defined edges as compared
to the tractor lines which are also visible where it turned at the field
boundaries. It looks natural enough...

Regards,
Martin Brown


With all the talk of Crop-circles, and some people linking them to
aliens and such... it might be worth mentioning there is a difference
between DOOMsday, and the subject of the program - DOMEsday!

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On 16/05/2011 14:19, Androcles wrote:

This easter egg is a Tornado:
51°34'44.95"N
1°43'46.72"W


Looks like a steam train to me

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| On 16/05/2011 14:19, Androcles wrote:
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| This easter egg is a Tornado:
| 51°34'44.95"N
| 1°43'46.72"W
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| Looks like a steam train to me

This one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF2Jgg1LpzU

Neat how it got caught in the aerial photograph for Google Earth, huh?


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On May 17, 2:21*am, Andrex muttered:

Neat how it got caught in the aerial photograph for Google Earth, huh?


Are we now blaming steam trains for crop circles? Has this particular
locomotive caused the strange (alien) markings on the nearby
roundabout? The egg shape is surely highly symbolic and offers the
chance of interpretation by even by the most foolish of ufologists?
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On 16/05/2011 13:20, Chris.B wrote:
On May 16, 1:15 pm, Martin
wrote:

The relevant part can be seen using BBC iPlayer at 54:15-54:24 into the
programme with best overall view at 54:19:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00sj8fc/Domesday/


iPlayer is not available outside the UK.


Ah. I hadn't thought of that! Here are a couple of temporary links to my
original best frame grab from the program and a perspective corrected
one to better show the pattern (assuming right angled field boundaries).
It is circular and surprisingly complex inside.

If it was a hoax someone went to a lot of trouble making it.

http://www.nezumi.demon.co.uk/temp/cropc.jpg
http://www.nezumi.demon.co.uk/temp/cropc2.jpg

I may have to take them down if the Beeb objects but I think this
probably constitutes fair usage for the purposes of commentary.
Taken from BBC "Doomsday documentary" iPlayer framegrab at 54:19.

BTW can you (or any other volunteer) read Danish scientific papers?

Regards,
Martin Brown


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