On Sunday, in article

"Keith (Southend)G" wrote:

Radar would have suggested a reasonable fall of rain here at Southend,
but the patio is about 3/4 wet and I've nothing to report other than a
Trace. bah!

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"


Here on the north Kent coast (Boughton-under-Blean) it has been raining on and
of since 0820 and at 2100 collected 7.2mm. Just had a moderate to heavy spell
of rain 2025/2100. First sunless day since April. Still raining at 2130.

On Jun 5, 7:57*pm, "Will Hand" wrote:
"Len Wood" wrote in message

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On Jun 5, 6:06 pm, "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote:

On Jun 5, 3:31 pm, "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote:

Radar would have suggested a reasonable fall of rain here at Southend,
but the patio is about 3/4 wet and I've nothing to report other than a
Trace. bah!

Keith (Southend)http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"

Finally recorded 0.6mm this afternoon, just going out to mop up the
flooding !

Keith (Southend)http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"

2.3 mm here in Wembury.
Lovely bbq under the gaynor and awning.
No worries.

=====

Didn't know your good lady was called Gaynor Len?

Will
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It was a typo Will. Meant to say gazebo. I think?

Len

On Jun 5, 8:00*pm, "Will Hand" wrote:
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On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 at 16:21:31, Will Hand
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

"Hugh Newbury" wrote in message
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Only 0.6mm here today. I didn't bother watering this morning because I
was *expecting a decent amount.

Well I did say not to expect too much in the already dry areas as the dry
ground would not provide enough moisture!

I always thought rain usually fell from the *sky*...
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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

As I said the other day, in order to get substantial showers (in the absence
of upper forcing) you need a moisture supply from low down. A bone dry
ground mitigates against showers, doesn't stop them, although in very arid
deserts it does where convection is of the dry thermal type.

Will
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In the last 8 hours about 21 mm has fallen on bone-dry brown-
grassed north-east Surrey. This forces me to conclude that the
moisture is of non-Surrey origin as it nearly always is when it rains
here. I suspect a large part of it comes from evaporation of the
oceans and that the hydrological cycle is on rather larger a scale
than has been suggested, but who knows?

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

On Jun 6, 1:29*am, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Jun 5, 8:00*pm, "Will Hand" wrote:





"Paul Hyett" wrote in message

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On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 at 16:21:31, Will Hand
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

"Hugh Newbury" wrote in message
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Only 0.6mm here today. I didn't bother watering this morning because I
was *expecting a decent amount.

Well I did say not to expect too much in the already dry areas as the dry
ground would not provide enough moisture!

I always thought rain usually fell from the *sky*...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

As I said the other day, in order to get substantial showers (in the absence
of upper forcing) you need a moisture supply from low down. A bone dry
ground mitigates against showers, doesn't stop them, although in very arid
deserts it does where convection is of the dry thermal type.

Will
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* * *In the last 8 hours about 21 mm has fallen on bone-dry brown-
grassed north-east Surrey. *This forces me to conclude that the
moisture is of non-Surrey origin as it nearly always is when it rains
here. *I suspect a large part of it comes from evaporation of the
oceans and that the hydrological cycle is on rather larger a scale
than has been suggested, but who knows?

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You know, I've been thinking that advection could play a small part as
well. Still, who are we to question............

"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message
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On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 at 16:21:31, Will Hand
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

"Hugh Newbury" wrote in message
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Only 0.6mm here today. I didn't bother watering this morning because I
was expecting a decent amount.

Well I did say not to expect too much in the already dry areas as the
dry
ground would not provide enough moisture!

I always thought rain usually fell from the *sky*...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email
me)

As I said the other day, in order to get substantial showers (in the
absence
of upper forcing) you need a moisture supply from low down. A bone dry
ground mitigates against showers, doesn't stop them, although in very arid
deserts it does where convection is of the dry thermal type.

Will
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In the last 8 hours about 21 mm has fallen on bone-dry brown-
grassed north-east Surrey. This forces me to conclude that the
moisture is of non-Surrey origin as it nearly always is when it rains
here. I suspect a large part of it comes from evaporation of the
oceans and that the hydrological cycle is on rather larger a scale
than has been suggested, but who knows?

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.
===============

No need for sarcasm Tudor! I did say that in the absence of any other
forcing dry ground would mitigate rainfall amounts. Clearly there has been
convergence over your and other areas, possibly induced by outflow from the
storms on the adjacent continent. It was not a classic front rather a
convergence zone clearly shown by how the radar echoes behaved becoming
clustered.

Will
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On Jun 6, 7:30*am, "Will Hand" wrote:
"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message

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On Jun 5, 8:00 pm, "Will Hand" wrote:









"Paul Hyett" wrote in message

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On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 at 16:21:31, Will Hand
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

"Hugh Newbury" wrote in message
...

Only 0.6mm here today. I didn't bother watering this morning because I
was expecting a decent amount.

Well I did say not to expect too much in the already dry areas as the
dry
ground would not provide enough moisture!

I always thought rain usually fell from the *sky*...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email
me)

As I said the other day, in order to get substantial showers (in the
absence
of upper forcing) you need a moisture supply from low down. A bone dry
ground mitigates against showers, doesn't stop them, although in very arid
deserts it does where convection is of the dry thermal type.

Will
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* * *In the last 8 hours about 21 mm has fallen on bone-dry brown-
grassed north-east Surrey. *This forces me to conclude that the
moisture is of non-Surrey origin as it nearly always is when it rains
here. *I suspect a large part of it comes from evaporation of the
oceans and that the hydrological cycle is on rather larger a scale
than has been suggested, but who knows?

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.
===============

No need for sarcasm Tudor! I did say that in the absence of any other
forcing dry ground would mitigate rainfall amounts. Clearly there has been
convergence over your and other areas, possibly induced by outflow from the
storms on the adjacent continent. It was not a classic front rather a
convergence zone clearly shown by how the radar echoes behaved becoming
clustered.

Will
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Well, that was a turnup for the books, 26.0mm of rain and still
raining here at Southend. (08:10)

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"weather Home & Abroad"

On Jun 6, 8:08*am, "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote:
On Jun 6, 7:30*am, "Will Hand" wrote:





"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message

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On Jun 5, 8:00 pm, "Will Hand" wrote:

"Paul Hyett" wrote in message

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On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 at 16:21:31, Will Hand
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

"Hugh Newbury" wrote in message
...

Only 0.6mm here today. I didn't bother watering this morning because I
was expecting a decent amount.

Well I did say not to expect too much in the already dry areas as the
dry
ground would not provide enough moisture!

I always thought rain usually fell from the *sky*...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email
me)

As I said the other day, in order to get substantial showers (in the
absence
of upper forcing) you need a moisture supply from low down. A bone dry
ground mitigates against showers, doesn't stop them, although in very arid
deserts it does where convection is of the dry thermal type.

Will
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* * *In the last 8 hours about 21 mm has fallen on bone-dry brown-
grassed north-east Surrey. *This forces me to conclude that the
moisture is of non-Surrey origin as it nearly always is when it rains
here. *I suspect a large part of it comes from evaporation of the
oceans and that the hydrological cycle is on rather larger a scale
than has been suggested, but who knows?

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.
===============

No need for sarcasm Tudor! I did say that in the absence of any other
forcing dry ground would mitigate rainfall amounts. Clearly there has been
convergence over your and other areas, possibly induced by outflow from the
storms on the adjacent continent. It was not a classic front rather a
convergence zone clearly shown by how the radar echoes behaved becoming
clustered.

Will
--

Well, that was a turnup for the books, 26.0mm of rain and still
raining here at Southend. (08:10)

Keith (Southend)http://www.southendweather.net
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Send some to the deserts of South Devon would you please Keith? The
Dawlish rain shield worked perfectly. As soon as rain approached it
kicked into action, repelling it back eastwards and leaving us with a
measly 0.5mm!

On Mon, 6 Jun 2011, Keith (Southend)G wrote
On Jun 6, 7:30*am, "Will Hand" wrote:
"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message

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On Jun 5, 8:00 pm, "Will Hand" wrote:









"Paul Hyett" wrote in message

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On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 at 16:21:31, Will Hand
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

"Hugh Newbury" wrote in message
...

Only 0.6mm here today. I didn't bother watering this morning because I
was expecting a decent amount.

Well I did say not to expect too much in the already dry areas as the
dry
ground would not provide enough moisture!

I always thought rain usually fell from the *sky*...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email
me)

As I said the other day, in order to get substantial showers (in the
absence
of upper forcing) you need a moisture supply from low down. A bone dry
ground mitigates against showers, doesn't stop them, although in very arid
deserts it does where convection is of the dry thermal type.

Will
--- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

* * *In the last 8 hours about 21 mm has fallen on bone-dry brown-
grassed north-east Surrey. *This forces me to conclude that the
moisture is of non-Surrey origin as it nearly always is when it rains
here. *I suspect a large part of it comes from evaporation of the
oceans and that the hydrological cycle is on rather larger a scale
than has been suggested, but who knows?

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.
===============

No need for sarcasm Tudor! I did say that in the absence of any other
forcing dry ground would mitigate rainfall amounts. Clearly there has been
convergence over your and other areas, possibly induced by outflow from the
storms on the adjacent continent. It was not a classic front rather a
convergence zone clearly shown by how the radar echoes behaved becoming
clustered.

Will
--

Well, that was a turnup for the books, 26.0mm of rain and still
raining here at Southend. (08:10)


Ditto here. That is, can't tell exactly how much rain fell as the gauge
has overflowed....


--
Kate B

PS nospam means nospam. But umra at cockaigne dot org dot uk will get through!

On Jun 6, 8:08*am, "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote:
On Jun 6, 7:30*am, "Will Hand" wrote:









"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message

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On Jun 5, 8:00 pm, "Will Hand" wrote:

"Paul Hyett" wrote in message

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On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 at 16:21:31, Will Hand
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

"Hugh Newbury" wrote in message
...

Only 0.6mm here today. I didn't bother watering this morning because I
was expecting a decent amount.

Well I did say not to expect too much in the already dry areas as the
dry
ground would not provide enough moisture!

I always thought rain usually fell from the *sky*...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email
me)

As I said the other day, in order to get substantial showers (in the
absence
of upper forcing) you need a moisture supply from low down. A bone dry
ground mitigates against showers, doesn't stop them, although in very arid
deserts it does where convection is of the dry thermal type.

Will
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* * *In the last 8 hours about 21 mm has fallen on bone-dry brown-
grassed north-east Surrey. *This forces me to conclude that the
moisture is of non-Surrey origin as it nearly always is when it rains
here. *I suspect a large part of it comes from evaporation of the
oceans and that the hydrological cycle is on rather larger a scale
than has been suggested, but who knows?

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.
===============

No need for sarcasm Tudor! I did say that in the absence of any other
forcing dry ground would mitigate rainfall amounts. Clearly there has been
convergence over your and other areas, possibly induced by outflow from the
storms on the adjacent continent. It was not a classic front rather a
convergence zone clearly shown by how the radar echoes behaved becoming
clustered.

Will
--

Well, that was a turnup for the books, 26.0mm of rain and still
raining here at Southend. (08:10)

Keith (Southend)http://www.southendweather.net
"weather Home & Abroad"

28.4mm (1.12"), still raining...

Keith (Southend)

On Jun 6, 1:29*am, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Jun 5, 8:00*pm, "Will Hand" wrote:





"Paul Hyett" wrote in message

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On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 at 16:21:31, Will Hand
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

"Hugh Newbury" wrote in message
...

Only 0.6mm here today. I didn't bother watering this morning because I
was *expecting a decent amount.

Well I did say not to expect too much in the already dry areas as the dry
ground would not provide enough moisture!

I always thought rain usually fell from the *sky*...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

As I said the other day, in order to get substantial showers (in the absence
of upper forcing) you need a moisture supply from low down. A bone dry
ground mitigates against showers, doesn't stop them, although in very arid
deserts it does where convection is of the dry thermal type.

Will
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* * *In the last 8 hours about 21 mm has fallen on bone-dry brown-
grassed north-east Surrey. *This forces me to conclude that the
moisture is of non-Surrey origin as it nearly always is when it rains
here. *I suspect a large part of it comes from evaporation of the
oceans and that the hydrological cycle is on rather larger a scale
than has been suggested, but who knows?

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Meanwhile, here, on the tip of Cornwall, surrounded by a rather large
quantity of water, not a drop all month so far. Still mainly sunny, as
it was yesterday, just cooler (18.9C max yesterday). The sc over the
sea breaking up as it approaches the coast, giving the typical blue
coastal strip before the land based cumulus develop. http://www.landsendweather.info/

Graham
Penzance