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On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 12:30:57 +0100, Col wrote:

Has it ever ocurred to you that these 'divisive attitudes' are caused
by southerners who by their own unthinking, arrogant ways
consider themselves to be the centre of the (British) universe?
No wonder northerners react against it!


Hear, hear.

Presenters on national broadcast networks should not be making
comment about any conditions local to them. Local conditions should
be kept for the local/regional opt outs or stations.

I and the vast majority outside the SE have no interest what so ever
in knowing that it was raining during the rush hour in the SE. Do
they mention when it rains in Manchester or Birmingham? No, so why
mention it for London?

Conditions that may have knock on effects to people outside of the
local/regional coverage areas should be mentioned on the national
networks. Like when they can't cope with a few inches of snow and
have to close Heathrow for a couple of days...

--
Cheers Dave.
Nr Garrigill, Cumbria. 421m ASL.




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On Jun 19, 12:13*pm, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 12:30:57 +0100, Col wrote:
Has it ever ocurred to you that these 'divisive attitudes' are caused
by southerners who by their own unthinking, arrogant ways
consider themselves to be the centre of the (British) universe?
No wonder northerners react against it!


Hear, hear.

Presenters on national broadcast networks should not be making
comment about any conditions local to them. Local conditions should
be kept for the local/regional opt outs or stations.

I and the vast majority outside the SE have no interest what so ever
in knowing that it was raining during the rush hour in the SE. Do
they mention when it rains in Manchester or Birmingham? No, so why
mention it for London?

Conditions that may have knock on effects to people outside of the
local/regional coverage areas should be mentioned on the national
networks. Like when they can't cope with a few inches of snow and
have to close Heathrow for a couple of days...

--
Cheers Dave.
Nr Garrigill, Cumbria. 421m ASL.




Do you incude London in that statement ?


The only reason "they" can't cope with snow is an overreaction by Elf
'n' Safety mob whether it be union officials, local authorities and
the over the top doom and danger forecasts from UKMO itself. Most
ordinary working people in London and the SE need to get to work to
pay their rents and mortgages which are the highest in the UK. So
when you say "they" who do you exactly mean? And when you talk of the
south which normally implies London I'll think you'll find "they " are
now almost 50% ethnic so do you mean them as well?

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On Jun 18, 2:47*pm, Jim Kewley wrote:
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Liquorice writes

To stop it has to start, I think we might have 3 rain drops today.


It's been quite pleasant above 15C for a while, little windy at F4 to
F5 so wind chill down to 3C or there abouts, sunny intervals. One of
those days when it's really rather nice out of the wind.


--
Cheers Dave.
Nr Garrigill, Cumbria. 421m ASL.


Yet just 50 odd miles to your west, in the IOM, we had about 20 hours of
continuous heavy rain. *The whole system seemed to pivot, with us at the
centre.
--

Jim


That could be the first time, perhaps forever, that the IOM has been
at the centre of anything, except for the northern Irish sea! *))
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On Jun 19, 1:15*pm, Lawrence13 wrote:
On Jun 19, 12:13*pm, "Dave Liquorice"
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On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 12:30:57 +0100, Col wrote:
Has it ever ocurred to you that these 'divisive attitudes' are caused
by southerners who by their own unthinking, arrogant ways
consider themselves to be the centre of the (British) universe?
No wonder northerners react against it!


Hear, hear.


Presenters on national broadcast networks should not be making
comment about any conditions local to them. Local conditions should
be kept for the local/regional opt outs or stations.


I and the vast majority outside the SE have no interest what so ever
in knowing that it was raining during the rush hour in the SE. Do
they mention when it rains in Manchester or Birmingham? No, so why
mention it for London?


Conditions that may have knock on effects to people outside of the
local/regional coverage areas should be mentioned on the national
networks. Like when they can't cope with a few inches of snow and
have to close Heathrow for a couple of days...


--
Cheers Dave.
Nr Garrigill, Cumbria. 421m ASL.


Do you incude London in that statement ?

The only reason "they" can't cope with snow is an overreaction by Elf
'n' Safety mob whether it be union officials, local authorities and
the over the top doom and danger forecasts from UKMO itself. Most
ordinary working people in London and the SE need to get to work to
pay their rents and mortgages *which are the highest in the UK. So
when you say "they" who do you exactly mean? And when you talk of the
south which normally implies London I'll think you'll find "they " are
now almost 50% ethnic so do you mean them as well?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Wow. Some awkward agendas in that, aren't there?
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On Jun 18, 12:30*pm, "Col" wrote:
"Adam Lea" wrote in message

...

On 18/06/11 06:01, Col wrote:


.



You really don't like it when examples of 'Southern bias' are presented
to you, do you?


Not to the extent that you do, no.


The divisive attitudes in this country annoy me, of which you bringing up
the N/S bias at seemingly every opportunity are effectively fueling.


I've mentioned it a grand total of *two* times in the last few weeks.
Hardly bringing it up at every opportunity.

Has it ever ocurred to you that these 'divisive attitudes' are caused
by southerners who by their own unthinking, arrogant ways
consider themselves to be the centre of the (British) universe?
No wonder northerners react against it!

I find this irritating, annoying and it's a little bugbear of mine.
It's not a massive big deal but it's there all the same.

Furthermore, I will continue to comment on weather related instances
of this as I see fit.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


Considering the South contains all sort from all over the world let
alone the north of the country I think you are talking-what's the
name of that obnoxious old northern dish-utter tripe.

Do you think the 48% ethnic mx that make up the population of greater
london hold this "arrogant attitude" of whih you speak......poppycock
Colin. Now stop stirring up imaginated hostilties towards ordinary
people. Are you really suggestIng that Dave, Keith , Tudor, Will and
Dawlish plus many other NG members have a contempt for the north?


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On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:13:20 +0100, Adam Lea wrote:

Presenters on national broadcast networks should not be making
comment about any conditions local to them. Local conditions

should
be kept for the local/regional opt outs or stations.


Possibly because there was a lot of rain that has come after a drought,
hence people now know that drought conditions have eased and can infer
that the farmers will be less likely to have problems with harvests.


The drought in the SE is a regional issue, keep it to the regional
broadcasts. The affects on farming is relevant nationally but not "Oh
wasn't the rain bad this morning? It took me 2 hrs to get across
London Bridge".

Up here we are still waiting for summer to start, it's been
unseasonally cool. Indeed April had more days above 15C (14) that all
of May and June combined (8). When are the presenters in the SE going
to mention that?

As for dragging race, ethnic mix or WHY you into the argument. That
only happens when people know they havn't got a proper counter point.

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Cheers Dave.
Nr Garrigill, Cumbria. 421m ASL.



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Dawlish writes
Jim


That could be the first time, perhaps forever, that the IOM has been
at the centre of anything, except for the northern Irish sea! *))



Geographic centre of the British Isles - more or less.

Motor Bike road racing centre of the world!! Why go to Switzerland to
die, when we lay on 37 miles of road for the same thing?

Centre for kippers.

Centre for tax dodging, money laundering and thick brown envelopes being
passed to members of the government.

There's lots goes on here ;-)
--

Jim
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On 19/06/11 14:40, Col wrote:
Lawrence13 wrote:
On Jun 18, 12:30 pm, wrote:


I've mentioned it a grand total of *two* times in the last few weeks.
Hardly bringing it up at every opportunity.

Has it ever ocurred to you that these 'divisive attitudes' are caused
by southerners who by their own unthinking, arrogant ways
consider themselves to be the centre of the (British) universe?
No wonder northerners react against it!

I find this irritating, annoying and it's a little bugbear of mine.
It's not a massive big deal but it's there all the same.

Furthermore, I will continue to comment on weather related instances
of this as I see fit.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


Considering the South contains all sort from all over the world let
alone the north of the country I think you are talking-what's the
name of that obnoxious old northern dish-utter tripe.

Do you think the 48% ethnic mx that make up the population of greater
london hold this "arrogant attitude" of whih you speak......poppycock
Colin. Now stop stirring up imaginated hostilties towards ordinary
people. Are you really suggestIng that Dave, Keith , Tudor, Will and
Dawlish plus many other NG members have a contempt for the north?


Now stop trying to put words in my mouth, you know full well I was
speaking of the attitude of southerners in general, rather any specific
ones. Will I know originates from Manchester and I think Dawlish
is from northern England somewhere so I doubt they would hold
such views.

I think very few (if any) people from the south hold a genuine 'contempt'
for the north, rather it's a more subconscious thing that ends up with
them appearing rather arrogant. They are brought up with the sense
(fuelled by the media) that everything revolves around London and
react with utter disbelief (as you are doing here) that anybody from
outside the Home Counties views things in a different light.

Oh, and I really don't know why you are attempting to drag race
into this argument.....


I believe this is an appropriate time to stop and agree to disagree as
this thread just seems to be descending into hostility now.
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On Jun 17, 7:05*pm, "Col" wrote:
"Adam Lea" wrote in message

...

On 17/06/11 17:45, Col wrote:
*wrote in message
...
That looks like a pretty big gap in the forecast rain over England
coming
up,
just like the big snowstorm forecasts we often get...


http://premium.raintoday.co.uk/


I was expecting rain from about 11 this morning.
Nothing yet....


Looks like it is all to the south of you. Pretty nasty in W Sussex at the
moment.


I know it's been raining in the south, the newsreaders on the BBC
were asking when is it going to stop raining?
A little bit of rain and they think they're hard done by, those BBC
employees who re-locate to Media City in Salford are going to get
a nasty weather surprise I can tell you
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


I believe Manchester's annual rainfall is 820mm per annum. This
compares with 1219.6mm in Penzance (1981-2010 average).

Just thought it was time to expose the urban myth of Manchester being
very wet.

Graham
Penzance (where it's been a cloudy & cool day - I hope it's OK to say
that)

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On Jun 19, 7:09*pm, Jim Kewley wrote:
In message
,
Dawlish writes

Jim


That could be the first time, perhaps forever, that the IOM has been
at the centre of anything, except for the northern Irish sea! *))


Geographic centre of the British Isles - more or less.

Motor Bike road racing centre of the world!! * Why go to Switzerland to
die, when we lay on 37 miles of road for the same thing?

Centre for kippers.

Centre for tax dodging, money laundering and thick brown envelopes being
passed to members of the government.

There's lots goes on here ;-)
--

Jim


*))


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