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Colin Youngs[_2_] July 23rd 11 08:12 PM

Friday night notably cold: Shap 1.4°C minimum
 
Saturday 23rd July 2011


Meteosat MSG satellite picture from Ferdinand Valk's site at 12.00 UTC
http://www.fvalk.com/images/Day_image/MSG-1200-EUR.jpg


UK min. temps on Friday night http://tinyurl.com/3ho629d

Keswick 4.3°C, Redesdale 4.2°C, Warcop 4.0°C, Loch Glascarnoch 3.9°C,
Port Ellen (Islay) 3.6°C, West Freugh 3.5°C, Sennybridge 3.3°C, Tulloch
Bridge 2.7°C, Eskdalemuir 2.5°C, Shap 1.4°C.

St Mary's (Scilly) and Camborne 12.1°C, Thorney Island and Guernsey 12.2°C,
Portland 12.5°C.


UK max. temps on Saturday http://tinyurl.com/42bv3cj

Lerwick 12.4°C, Fair Isle 12.7°C, Baltasound, Altnaharra and Rosehearty
12.9°C.

Eskdalemuir, Shobdon and Solent MRSC 20.3°C, Hereford (Credenhill) and
Benson 20.4°C, Pembrey Sands 20.5°C, Carlisle, Brize Norton and Plymouth
20.7°C, Church Lawford 20.9°C, Bournemouth (Hurn) 21.0°C, Pershore
21.4°C, Exeter Airport 21.5°C.

OGIMET summary http://tinyurl.com/4yn7uwo


Rainfall radar http://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&soort=loop24uur&URL or
http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

Rainfall totals in 24 hours ending 18.00 UTC on Saturday
http://tinyurl.com/3sy56ew

Church Lawford and Benson 3 mm, Charlwood and Wattisham 4 mm, Bedford and
Andrewsfield 5 mm, Cottesmore and Shoeburyness 6 mm, Manston 9 mm, Filton
13 mm.


Location of some UK stations
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/educatio...r_data_uk.html


Colin Youngs
Brussels



John Hall July 23rd 11 08:28 PM

Friday night notably cold: Shap 1.4°C minimum
 
In article ,
Colin Youngs writes:
UK min. temps on Friday night http://tinyurl.com/3ho629d

Keswick 4.3°C, Redesdale 4.2°C, Warcop 4.0°C, Loch Glascarnoch 3.9°C,
Port Ellen (Islay) 3.6°C, West Freugh 3.5°C, Sennybridge 3.3°C, Tulloch
Bridge 2.7°C, Eskdalemuir 2.5°C, Shap 1.4°C.


Every day for the last couple of weeks or more the Daily Telegraph has
shown the lowest minimum in the country as being "Cairngorms". I assume
that someone must have put an AWS at the top of a mountain, but even so
the values being quoted seem remarkably low. They always seem to be
below freezing, and on a couple of occasions have been as low as -6°C.
The Telegraph gets its data from one of the big private forecasting
outfits. Presumably the Cairngorms data isn't recognised by the Met
Office.
--
John Hall
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick
themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
Winston S Churchill (1874-1965)

Paul Hyett July 24th 11 07:36 AM

Friday night notably cold: Shap 1.4°C minimum
 
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 at 22:12:57, Colin Youngs
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

Saturday 23rd July 2011

UK max. temps on Saturday http://tinyurl.com/42bv3cj

Eskdalemuir, Shobdon and Solent MRSC 20.3°C, Hereford (Credenhill) and
Benson 20.4°C, Pembrey Sands 20.5°C, Carlisle, Brize Norton and Plymouth
20.7°C, Church Lawford 20.9°C, Bournemouth (Hurn) 21.0°C, Pershore
21.4°C, Exeter Airport 21.5°C.

21.8C here.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

Martin Rowley July 24th 11 08:04 AM

Friday night notably cold: Shap 1.4°C minimum
 
"John Hall" wrote ...
Every day for the last couple of weeks or more the Daily Telegraph
has
shown the lowest minimum in the country as being "Cairngorms". I
assume
that someone must have put an AWS at the top of a mountain, but even
so
the values being quoted seem remarkably low. They always seem to be
below freezing, and on a couple of occasions have been as low
as -6°C.
The Telegraph gets its data from one of the big private forecasting
outfits. Presumably the Cairngorms data isn't recognised by the Met
Office.


.... it's been there for many years (since 1977), and has been featured
in several television programmes (and articles in the meteorological
literature) ....

http://cairngormweather.eps.hw.ac.uk/details.htm

It is most certainly 'recognised' by the Met Office (SYNOP = 03065)
and can be monitored either via the site above, or from such as
'OgiMet' at ....

www.ogimet.com

It won't appear in the 'official' highs/lows of course because it's a
high-level station. I can't remember the cut-off height that is used
.... ~ 350m?

There are a few others that aren't used ... e.g., Cairnwell, Great Dun
Fell.

Martin.


--
Martin Rowley
West Moors, East Dorset (UK): 17m (56ft) amsl
Lat: 50.82N Long: 01.88W
NGR: SU 082 023



souwestdad July 24th 11 08:14 AM

Friday night notably cold: Shap 1.4°C minimum
 
On Jul 24, 9:04*am, "Martin Rowley"
wrote:
"John Hall" wrote ...

Every day for the last couple of weeks or more the Daily Telegraph
has
shown the lowest minimum in the country as being "Cairngorms". I
assume
that someone must have put an AWS at the top of a mountain, but even
so
the values being quoted seem remarkably low. They always seem to be
below freezing, and on a couple of occasions have been as low
as -6°C.
The Telegraph gets its data from one of the big private forecasting
outfits. Presumably the Cairngorms data isn't recognised by the Met
Office.


... it's been there for many years (since 1977), and has been featured
in several television programmes (and articles in the meteorological
literature) ....

http://cairngormweather.eps.hw.ac.uk/details.htm

It is most certainly 'recognised' by the Met Office (SYNOP = 03065)
and can be monitored either via the site above, or from such as
'OgiMet' at ....

www.ogimet.com

It won't appear in the 'official' highs/lows of course because it's a
high-level station. I can't remember the cut-off height that is used
... ~ 350m?

There are a few others that aren't used ... e.g., Cairnwell, Great Dun
Fell.

Martin.

--
Martin Rowley
West Moors, East Dorset (UK): 17m (56ft) amsl
Lat: 50.82N * Long: 01.88W
NGR: SU 082 023


And looking back over the past few weeks on Ogimet it has just been
down to freezing but no lower.
So the comic is using data from somewhere else. Think that Heriot
Watt might have something
up there too?

21.9 here yesterday.

Jim
Castle Douglas

John Hall July 24th 11 09:21 AM

Friday night notably cold: Shap 1.4°C minimum
 
In article ,
Martin Rowley writes:
"John Hall" wrote ...
Every day for the last couple of weeks or more the Daily Telegraph
has
shown the lowest minimum in the country as being "Cairngorms". I
assume
that someone must have put an AWS at the top of a mountain, but even
so
the values being quoted seem remarkably low. They always seem to be
below freezing, and on a couple of occasions have been as low
as -6°C.
The Telegraph gets its data from one of the big private forecasting
outfits. Presumably the Cairngorms data isn't recognised by the Met
Office.


... it's been there for many years (since 1977), and has been featured
in several television programmes (and articles in the meteorological
literature) ....

http://cairngormweather.eps.hw.ac.uk/details.htm

It is most certainly 'recognised' by the Met Office (SYNOP = 03065)
and can be monitored either via the site above, or from such as
'OgiMet' at ....

www.ogimet.com

It won't appear in the 'official' highs/lows of course because it's a
high-level station. I can't remember the cut-off height that is used
... ~ 350m?

There are a few others that aren't used ... e.g., Cairnwell, Great Dun
Fell.

Martin.



Thanks. Martin. I wonder why the outfit that supplies the weather data
to the Telegraph has now started using it when it didn't use to.

If the figures in the "minimum temperature" row in the page that you
link to are absolute minima, then the values that have been appearing in
the Telegraph are well below the figure given for July. (It's hard to
believe that the -11C for January could be the /average/ minimum.)
--
John Hall
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick
themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
Winston S Churchill (1874-1965)


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