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Mr Watt A Ryatt August 12th 11 08:40 PM

Perseid meteor showers tonight
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14503284

if its clear :)

Dave Cornwell[_4_] August 12th 11 08:52 PM

Perseid meteor showers tonight
 
Mr Watt A Ryatt wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14503284

if its clear :)

-----------------
.... and if the moon changes phase from full.

Paul Hyett August 13th 11 06:25 AM

Perseid meteor showers tonight
 
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 at 21:40:39, Mr Watt A Ryatt
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14503284

if its clear :)


Surely they'll still be there, whether its clear or not... :p
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

Col August 13th 11 07:58 AM

Perseid meteor showers tonight
 
Paul Hyett wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 at 21:40:39, Mr Watt A Ryatt
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14503284

if its clear :)


Surely they'll still be there, whether its clear or not... :p


Ah but are they, if nobody sees them?
If a tree falls in a forrest....
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl



Martin Brown August 13th 11 09:01 AM

Perseid meteor showers tonight
 
On 13/08/2011 08:58, Col wrote:
Paul Hyett wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 at 21:40:39, Mr Watt A Ryatt
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14503284

if its clear :)


Surely they'll still be there, whether its clear or not... :p


Ah but are they, if nobody sees them?
If a tree falls in a forrest....


Yes. You can see distant radio signals bounce off the trails even when
you cannot see them visibly. A few amateur astronomers do it for fun.

The full moon means you will only see the brightest ones tonight.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Weatherlawyer August 13th 11 09:46 AM

Perseid meteor showers tonight
 
On Aug 13, 8:58*am, "Col" wrote:
Paul Hyett wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 at 21:40:39, Mr Watt A Ryatt
wrote in uk.sci.weather :


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14503284


if its clear :)


Surely they'll still be there, whether its clear or not... :p


Ah but are they, if nobody sees them?
If a tree falls in a forest....


If a tree falls in a forest?

What makes you assume they may not?
Someone's daddy never told him the all pervasive fact of life.

Here is a clue:

The space key on this computerisnotworkingwell. Can anybodyhear itifI
type louder?


Weatherlawyer August 13th 11 10:01 AM

Perseid meteor showers tonight
 
On Aug 13, 10:01*am, Martin Brown
wrote:
On 13/08/2011 08:58, Col wrote:

Paul Hyett wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 at 21:40:39, Mr Watt A Ryatt
*wrote in uk.sci.weather :


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14503284


if its clear :)


Surely they'll still be there, whether its clear or not... :p


Ah but are they, if nobody sees them?
If a tree falls in a forrest....


Yes. You can see distant radio signals bounce off the trails even when
you cannot see them visibly. A few amateur astronomers do it for fun.

The full moon means you will only see the brightest ones tonight.


If the NAO is negative.

Because the time of the phase is 18:58, the weather will be wet and
cloudy following a pluperfect setup of Jul 15 06:40 and Jul 30 18:40
swinging with two anticyclone spells in a year for blocking
anticyclones: Jul 23 05:02 and Aug 6 11:08.

Even more interesting than one supposed?

Nice of Goolie to get it's underpants sorted in time, eh?
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/phase/phase2001gmt.html

BTW, is it expert opinion to assume carbonates are proof of life?
It sounds silly to me but who knows what great minds think if there is
a budget for that sort of thing?

Col August 13th 11 10:18 AM

Perseid meteor showers tonight
 
Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Aug 13, 8:58 am, "Col" wrote:
Paul Hyett wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 at 21:40:39, Mr Watt A Ryatt
wrote in uk.sci.weather :


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14503284


if its clear :)


Surely they'll still be there, whether its clear or not... :p


Ah but are they, if nobody sees them?
If a tree falls in a forest....


If a tree falls in a forest?

What makes you assume they may not?
Someone's daddy never told him the all pervasive fact of life.

Here is a clue:

The space key on this computerisnotworkingwell. Can anybodyhear itifI
type louder?


I haven't a clue what you are talking about, but thanks for correcting
my spelling mistake :)
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl



Alan LeHun August 13th 11 05:29 PM

Perseid meteor showers tonight
 
In article 5f6469a8-4e8a-40cf-bee2-
,
says...

BTW, is it expert opinion to assume carbonates are proof of life?


No, but it is considered evidence of water.


--
Alan LeHun

Saint Isidore - Patron Saint of the Internet August 14th 11 01:37 AM

Perseid meteor showers tonight
 
On Aug 13, 3:01*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Aug 13, 10:01*am, Martin Brown
wrote:









On 13/08/2011 08:58, Col wrote:


Paul Hyett wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 at 21:40:39, Mr Watt A Ryatt
*wrote in uk.sci.weather :


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14503284


if its clear :)


Surely they'll still be there, whether its clear or not... :p


Ah but are they, if nobody sees them?
If a tree falls in a forrest....


Yes. You can see distant radio signals bounce off the trails even when
you cannot see them visibly. A few amateur astronomers do it for fun.


The full moon means you will only see the brightest ones tonight.


If the NAO is negative.

Because the time of the phase is 18:58, the weather will be wet and
cloudy following a pluperfect setup of Jul 15 *06:40 and Jul 30 *18:40
swinging with two anticyclone spells in a year for blocking
anticyclones: Jul 23 *05:02 and Aug *6 *11:08.

Even more interesting than one supposed?

Nice of Goolie to get it's underpants sorted in time, eh?http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/phase/phase2001gmt.html

BTW, is it expert opinion to assume carbonates are proof of life?
It sounds silly to me but who knows what great minds think if there is
a budget for that sort of thing?


Goolie=good.

Martin Brown August 14th 11 08:17 AM

Perseid meteor showers tonight
 
On 13/08/2011 18:29, Alan LeHun wrote:
In article5f6469a8-4e8a-40cf-bee2-
,
says...

BTW, is it expert opinion to assume carbonates are proof of life?


No, but it is considered evidence of water.


The next generation of probes that look for signs of life will mostly
use mass spectrometry to monitor the isotope ratios of the media and
surrounding gasses. Life tends to preferentially grab the lighter
isotopes because they are more mobile inside a diffusion limited cell
whereas inorganic reactions mostly occur on the outer exposed surface
and are almost instant.

Such methods would easily distinguish a peroxide or superoxide of iron
on Mars (which is highly likely) from real life. When Viking was sent it
just wasn't possible to miniturise the right gear and make it robust and
low powered all at the same time. Now it is so we will have to wait and
see what they find in the dark lines. It would be great fun if life was
found wherever liquid water exists...

(And one in the eye for Young Earth Creationists)

Regards,
Martin Brown

Weatherlawyer August 15th 11 05:17 PM

Perseid meteor showers tonight
 
On Aug 14, 9:17*am, Martin Brown
wrote:

It would be great fun if life was found wherever liquid water exists...

(And one in the eye for Young Earth Creationists)


Why?

With the reduction / oxidation of all sorts of chemicals in a deep
earth matrix of water and silicates, the need for time is no longer a
requirement for accidental miracles is it?

Personally I can't even be arsed with the idea that uranium et al is
limited to the good old days. If enough heat and pressure can be
generated in the upper atmosphere to turn nitrogen into carbon, there
wouldn't be all that much difficulty in turning lead and / or whatever
into uranium and the rest, would there?

It is much cheaper to believe the obvious than spend any time -or
anything less costly, on imagining alternatives. Not that I wish to
put you off your hobby.


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