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The local man killed by a falling tree in Monday's gale was well known to
me. It certainly brings home another side of severe weather when something
like this happens. Was the Met Office right to issue gale warnings? Ask
ordinary folk here and you will be told in no uncertain terms. They don't
know what the official terms of a gale are and aren't particularly
interested, but they do know that a gale warning means damage, strong winds
and danger.
The warnings were well in advance and spot on, they usually are here.
Imagine the repercussions in these parts if there had been no warnings.
Most of our population are not weather nuts and welcome warnings of gales,
snow, ice etc.

Ken
Copley, Teesdale


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On Sep 14, 10:49*am, "Ken Cook" wrote:
The local man killed by a falling tree in Monday's gale was well known to
me. It certainly brings home another side of severe weather when something
like this happens. Was the Met Office right to issue gale warnings? Ask
ordinary folk here and you will be told in no uncertain terms. They don't
know what the official terms of a gale are and aren't particularly
interested, but they do know that a gale warning means damage, strong winds
and danger.
The warnings were well in advance and spot on, they usually are here.
Imagine the repercussions in these parts if there had been no warnings.
Most of our population are not weather nuts and welcome warnings of gales,
snow, ice etc.

Ken
Copley, Teesdale


Well said Ken. I couldn't agree more.

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The local man killed by a falling tree in Monday's gale was
well known to me. It certainly brings home another side of
severe weather when something like this happens. Was the Met
Office right to issue gale warnings? Ask ordinary folk here
and you will be told in no uncertain terms. They don't know
what the official terms of a gale are and aren't particularly
interested, but they do know that a gale warning means damage,
strong winds and danger.
The warnings were well in advance and spot on, they usually
are here.
Imagine the repercussions in these parts if there had been no
warnings.
Most of our population are not weather nuts and welcome
warnings of gales, snow, ice etc.

Ken
Copley, Teesdale


I agree. It didn't materialise here (though it's having a good
go today, with trees whopping about and rain battering the
windows) but it's better to be warned, even if it doesn't hapen
as forecast, than to be taken by surprise because there was no
warning.

Anne


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On Sep 14, 1:25*pm, "Anne Burgess"
wrote:
The local man killed by a falling tree in Monday's gale was
well known to me. It certainly brings home another side of
severe weather when something like this happens. Was the Met
Office right to issue gale warnings? Ask ordinary folk here
and you will be told in no uncertain terms. They don't know
what the official terms of a gale are and aren't particularly
interested, but they do know that a gale warning means damage,
strong winds and danger.
The warnings were well in advance and spot on, they usually
are here.
Imagine the repercussions in these parts if there had been no
warnings.
Most of our population are not weather nuts and welcome
warnings of gales, snow, ice etc.


Ken
Copley, Teesdale


I agree. It didn't materialise here (though it's having a good
go today, with trees whopping about and rain battering the
windows) but it's better to be warned, even if it doesn't hapen
as forecast, than to be taken by surprise because there was no
warning.

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The MO did get it right without going OTT. An amber warning , not red,
was the right one.
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On 14/09/2011 10:49, Ken Cook wrote:
The local man killed by a falling tree in Monday's gale was well known
to me. It certainly brings home another side of severe weather when
something like this happens. Was the Met Office right to issue gale
warnings? Ask ordinary folk here and you will be told in no uncertain
terms. They don't know what the official terms of a gale are and aren't
particularly interested, but they do know that a gale warning means
damage, strong winds and danger.


I agree. It is more important than ever now that there are lots of
semi-dead horse chestnut trees about with brittle branches. One of my
neighbours had a 30' tree snap in two on Monday - narrowly missing their
house. The mature oaks I can see from home have survived unscathed
despite being in a very exposed position and swaying like crazy on the
day (whole tree that is not just the branches).

The warnings were well in advance and spot on, they usually are here.
Imagine the repercussions in these parts if there had been no warnings.
Most of our population are not weather nuts and welcome warnings of
gales, snow, ice etc.

Ken
Copley, Teesdale


The amber alert seemed entirely appropriate here. Plenty of high sided
vehicles blown over. They don't close the A19 flyover for nothing.

The same people whinging on about over reaction would be moaning about
failure to warn the public had the Met Office not put out a warning.
They just don't like the Met Office.

Regards,
Martin Brown
North Yorks


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Martin Brown wrote:

On 14/09/2011 10:49, Ken Cook wrote:
The local man killed by a falling tree in Monday's gale was well known
to me. It certainly brings home another side of severe weather when
something like this happens. Was the Met Office right to issue gale
warnings? Ask ordinary folk here and you will be told in no uncertain
terms. They don't know what the official terms of a gale are and aren't
particularly interested, but they do know that a gale warning means
damage, strong winds and danger.


I agree. It is more important than ever now that there are lots of semi-dead
horse chestnut trees about with brittle branches. One of my neighbours had a
30' tree snap in two on Monday - narrowly missing their house. The mature
oaks I can see from home have survived unscathed despite being in a very
exposed position and swaying like crazy on the day (whole tree that is not
just the branches).


As I posted in another thread, my wife had a problem travelling from
Macclesfield to London by train on Monday as the line was closed for a while
due to a fallen tree. It doesn't bear thinking about what might happen if one
of the high speed Virgin trains ran into a fallen tree. There's not much the
train companies can do when they receive a gale warning, other than run the
trains much more slowly than usual, which they don't. When my wife eventually
got a train on Monday it ran at the normal speed. I suppose the answer would be
to cut down all the trees bordering the railway lines but I can't see that ever
happening. Makes you think, though.


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On Sep 14, 10:49*am, "Ken Cook" wrote:
The local man killed by a falling tree in Monday's gale was well known to
me. It certainly brings home another side of severe weather when something
like this happens. Was the Met Office right to issue gale warnings? Ask
ordinary folk here and you will be told in no uncertain terms. They don't
know what the official terms of a gale are and aren't particularly
interested, but they do know that a gale warning means damage, strong winds
and danger.
The warnings were well in advance and spot on, they usually are here.
Imagine the repercussions in these parts if there had been no warnings.
Most of our population are not weather nuts and welcome warnings of gales,
snow, ice etc.

Ken
Copley, Teesdale


My thoughts exactly. The fault lies with newspapers mainly for taking
an maximum and making it a mean.

brian
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Brian in Aberfeldy wrote:
On Sep 14, 10:49 am, "Ken Cook" wrote:
The local man killed by a falling tree in Monday's gale was well known to
me. It certainly brings home another side of severe weather when something
like this happens. Was the Met Office right to issue gale warnings? Ask
ordinary folk here and you will be told in no uncertain terms. They don't
know what the official terms of a gale are and aren't particularly
interested, but they do know that a gale warning means damage, strong winds
and danger.
The warnings were well in advance and spot on, they usually are here.
Imagine the repercussions in these parts if there had been no warnings.
Most of our population are not weather nuts and welcome warnings of gales,
snow, ice etc.

Ken
Copley, Teesdale


My thoughts exactly. The fault lies with newspapers mainly for taking
an maximum and making it a mean.

brian
aberfeldy

------------------------
The forecasts I saw and warnings seemed about right on this occasion. I
drove from London to Liverpool on Monday and there were a few trucks
swerving about. (They never heed any warnings do they?). They always
said Scotland and the very north of England would bear the brunt.
Dave
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 at 07:06:27, haaark wrote
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The MO did get it right without going OTT. An amber warning , not red,
was the right one.


Makes you wonder just what it would take for a Red warning, though!
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"Ken Cook" wrote in message
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The local man killed by a falling tree in Monday's gale was well known to
me. It certainly brings home another side of severe weather when something
like this happens. Was the Met Office right to issue gale warnings? Ask
ordinary folk here and you will be told in no uncertain terms. They don't
know what the official terms of a gale are and aren't particularly
interested, but they do know that a gale warning means damage, strong
winds and danger.
The warnings were well in advance and spot on, they usually are here.
Imagine the repercussions in these parts if there had been no warnings.
Most of our population are not weather nuts and welcome warnings of gales,
snow, ice etc.

Ken
Copley, Teesdale


Well said Ken.

If the temperature inversion had been lower and close to the summits the lee
gusts would have been even stronger!

It's alway hard for us enthusiasts to put ourselves in the mindset of the
general public, so to get feedback is always good.

Cheers,

Will
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