I've noticed the weather forecasters over the past day or two have been
using the term "Very warm", when by the definitions that Darren posted a
few days ago (i.e. 6°C or more above the seasonal average) they should have
been saying "hot".

I have a feeling forecasters are reluctant to use the word "hot" at this
time of year, because... well, "it can't be hot at the end of September,
can it?"

We have these definitions for a reason, so they should use them!

OK I know, it's going to be immaterial from Saturday. But somehow "Very
mild" doesn't seem right either, just at the moment!

Adrian

In article ,
Adrian writes:
I've noticed the weather forecasters over the past day or two have been
using the term "Very warm", when by the definitions that Darren posted a
few days ago (i.e. 6°C or more above the seasonal average) they should have
been saying "hot".

I have a feeling forecasters are reluctant to use the word "hot" at this
time of year, because... well, "it can't be hot at the end of September,
can it?"

We have these definitions for a reason, so they should use them!

OK I know, it's going to be immaterial from Saturday. But somehow "Very
mild" doesn't seem right either, just at the moment!

Adrian

I agree that to call a temperature that's well into the twenties "very
mild" seems rather silly.
--
John Hall
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw

On Sep 29, 8:08*pm, Adrian wrote:
I've noticed the weather forecasters over the past day or two have been
using the term "Very warm", when by the definitions that Darren posted a
few days ago (i.e. 6°C or more above the seasonal average) they should have
been saying "hot".

I have a feeling forecasters are reluctant to use the word "hot" at this
time of year, because... well, "it can't be hot at the end of September,
can it?"

We have these definitions for a reason, so they should use them!

OK I know, it's going to be immaterial from Saturday. But somehow "Very
mild" doesn't seem right either, just at the moment!

Adrian

I'd say "very warm" was an appropriate description of the current
spell. The heat has a different feel from a day with an equal
temperature in July in that it is relatively short-lived, over by 6.30
pm and the altitude of the sun is much less, all contributing to the
general air of slightly weird. For once they've got it right. As
John Hall says, "mild" is inappropriate, not to say downright absurd.
"Mild" means "not cold, not as cold as usual" and should only be used
November to March for daytime temperatures and possibly another month
each end for night-time.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Sep 29, 8:08 pm, Adrian wrote:
I've noticed the weather forecasters over the past day or two have
been using the term "Very warm", when by the definitions that Darren
posted a few days ago (i.e. 6°C or more above the seasonal average)
they should have been saying "hot".

I have a feeling forecasters are reluctant to use the word "hot" at
this time of year, because... well, "it can't be hot at the end of
September, can it?"

We have these definitions for a reason, so they should use them!

OK I know, it's going to be immaterial from Saturday. But somehow
"Very mild" doesn't seem right either, just at the moment!

Adrian

I'd say "very warm" was an appropriate description of the current
spell. The heat has a different feel from a day with an equal
temperature in July in that it is relatively short-lived, over by 6.30
pm and the altitude of the sun is much less, all contributing to the
general air of slightly weird. For once they've got it right. As
John Hall says, "mild" is inappropriate, not to say downright absurd.
"Mild" means "not cold, not as cold as usual" and should only be used
November to March for daytime temperatures and possibly another month
each end for night-time.

Yes, the whole thing has a rather odd feel to it.
We've got weather presenters talking about temperatures pushing 30C
at 6 in the morning in pitch darkness..
At 7.30 it's getting dark, but still balmy and feels like 10.30 after a hot
day in 'proper' summer.

30C in October?
Yes, somewhere will get that tomorrow.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

On Sep 30, 6:52*am, "Col" wrote:
Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Sep 29, 8:08 pm, Adrian wrote:
I've noticed the weather forecasters over the past day or two have
been using the term "Very warm", when by the definitions that Darren
posted a few days ago (i.e. 6 C or more above the seasonal average)
they should have been saying "hot".

I have a feeling forecasters are reluctant to use the word "hot" at
this time of year, because... well, "it can't be hot at the end of
September, can it?"

We have these definitions for a reason, so they should use them!

OK I know, it's going to be immaterial from Saturday. But somehow
"Very mild" doesn't seem right either, just at the moment!

Adrian

* *I'd say "very warm" was an appropriate description of the current
spell. *The heat has a different feel from a day with an equal
temperature in July in that it is relatively short-lived, over by 6.30
pm and the altitude of the sun is much less, all contributing to the
general air of slightly weird. *For once they've got it right. *As
John Hall says, "mild" is inappropriate, not to say downright absurd.
"Mild" means "not cold, not as cold as usual" and should only be used
November to March for daytime temperatures and possibly another month
each end for night-time.

Yes, the whole thing has a rather odd feel to it.
We've got weather presenters talking about temperatures pushing 30C
at 6 in the morning in pitch darkness..
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Can't say I've heard that degree of populist exaggeration. Are you
sure you're telly's not tuned to Al-Jazeera?

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Sep 30, 6:52 am, "Col" wrote:
Tudor Hughes wrote:


I'd say "very warm" was an appropriate description of the current
spell. The heat has a different feel from a day with an equal
temperature in July in that it is relatively short-lived, over by
6.30 pm and the altitude of the sun is much less, all contributing
to the general air of slightly weird. For once they've got it
right. As
John Hall says, "mild" is inappropriate, not to say downright
absurd. "Mild" means "not cold, not as cold as usual" and should
only be used November to March for daytime temperatures and
possibly another month each end for night-time.

Yes, the whole thing has a rather odd feel to it.
We've got weather presenters talking about temperatures pushing 30C
at 6 in the morning in pitch darkness..
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Can't say I've heard that degree of populist exaggeration. Are you
sure you're telly's not tuned to Al-Jazeera?

Not sure what you are aiming at here.
At 6am at this time of year, it is totally dark.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

In article
,
Tudor Hughes writes:
On Sep 30, 6:52*am, "Col" wrote:
Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Sep 29, 8:08 pm, Adrian wrote:
I've noticed the weather forecasters over the past day or two have
been using the term "Very warm", when by the definitions that Darren
posted a few days ago (i.e. 6 C or more above the seasonal average)
they should have been saying "hot".

I have a feeling forecasters are reluctant to use the word "hot" at
this time of year, because... well, "it can't be hot at the end of
September, can it?"

We have these definitions for a reason, so they should use them!

OK I know, it's going to be immaterial from Saturday. But somehow
"Very mild" doesn't seem right either, just at the moment!

Adrian

* *I'd say "very warm" was an appropriate description of the current
spell. *The heat has a different feel from a day with an equal
temperature in July in that it is relatively short-lived, over by 6.30
pm and the altitude of the sun is much less, all contributing to the
general air of slightly weird. *For once they've got it right. *As
John Hall says, "mild" is inappropriate, not to say downright absurd.
"Mild" means "not cold, not as cold as usual" and should only be used
November to March for daytime temperatures and possibly another month
each end for night-time.

Yes, the whole thing has a rather odd feel to it.
We've got weather presenters talking about temperatures pushing 30C
at 6 in the morning in pitch darkness..

Can't say I've heard that degree of populist exaggeration. Are you
sure you're telly's not tuned to Al-Jazeera?

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.


I wonder if Col meant: " We've got weather presenters at 6 in the
morning in pitch darkness talking about temperatures pushing 30C."
--
John Hall
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw

John Hall wrote:


I wonder if Col meant: " We've got weather presenters at 6 in the
morning in pitch darkness talking about temperatures pushing 30C."

Yes, I think that's what he meant.
Apologies for my rather grammatically clumsy sentence construction.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

LOL!

On 29/09/2011 8:08 PM, Adrian wrote:
that Darren posted a
few days ago (i.e. 6°C or more above the seasonal average) they should have
been saying "hot".

In article ,
Adrian writes:
I've noticed the weather forecasters over the past day or two have been
using the term "Very warm", when by the definitions that Darren posted a
few days ago (i.e. 6°C or more above the seasonal average) they should have
been saying "hot".

I have a feeling forecasters are reluctant to use the word "hot" at this
time of year, because... well, "it can't be hot at the end of September,
can it?"

We have these definitions for a reason, so they should use them!

OK I know, it's going to be immaterial from Saturday. But somehow "Very
mild" doesn't seem right either, just at the moment!

Adrian

Apparently now that it's the first of October it's "exceptionally warm",
according to the forecast for the SE on the Met Office website. I'm glad
that they had enough sense not to say "very mild".
--
John Hall
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw