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Thanks Lawrence. It really is interesting how different the synoptics are
this year. ISTM that even the 1000-500 hPa thickness chart looks colder than
normal, although one must be cautious of course, anyone know where one can
view a thickness anomaly chart?

Will
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On 20/11/11 11:21, Eskimo Will wrote:
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Thanks Lawrence. It really is interesting how different the synoptics
are this year. ISTM that even the 1000-500 hPa thickness chart looks
colder than normal, although one must be cautious of course, anyone know
where one can view a thickness anomaly chart?


Here's the temperature anomaly for the past 12 months. Arctic 2-4C
warmer than normal.
http://tinyurl.com/cwydxdp

You can make your own maps he
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/maps/


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On Nov 20, 11:54*am, Graham P Davis wrote:
On 20/11/11 11:21, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Lawrence13" wrote in message
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http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php

Thanks Lawrence. It really is interesting how different the synoptics
are this year. ISTM that even the 1000-500 hPa thickness chart looks
colder than normal, although one must be cautious of course, anyone know
where one can view a thickness anomaly chart?

Here's the temperature anomaly for the past 12 months. Arctic 2-4C
warmer than normal.http://tinyurl.com/cwydxdp

You can make your own maps hehttp://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/maps/

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Teach evolution, not creationism:http://evolutionnotcreationism.org.uk/

That's irrelevant as I'm highlighting the marked cooling since the
summer turnaround over the same time span for previous years. Yes the
Arctic has been warmer of that there's no disputing that, but there
were always cooling and warming phases long before humans struck a
swan vesta match and maybe, just maybe we're on the cusp now of a
downward trend-time will tell.

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On Nov 20, 12:06*pm, Lawrence13 wrote:
On Nov 20, 11:54*am, Graham P Davis wrote:





On 20/11/11 11:21, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Lawrence13" wrote in message
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http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php

Thanks Lawrence. It really is interesting how different the synoptics
are this year. ISTM that even the 1000-500 hPa thickness chart looks
colder than normal, although one must be cautious of course, anyone know
where one can view a thickness anomaly chart?

Here's the temperature anomaly for the past 12 months. Arctic 2-4C
warmer than normal.http://tinyurl.com/cwydxdp

You can make your own maps hehttp://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/maps/

--
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. E-mail: change boy to man
Teach evolution, not creationism:http://evolutionnotcreationism.org.uk/

That's irrelevant as I'm highlighting the marked cooling since the
summer turnaround over the same time span for previous years. Yes the
Arctic has been warmer of that there's no disputing that, but there
were always cooling and warming phases long before humans struck a
swan vesta match and maybe, just maybe we're on the cusp now of a
downward trend-time will tell.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Why does every single scientific institution, every single national
science academy and every single stable government *on the planet*
disagree with you.

The Arctic has been significantly warmer than normal. Arctic sea ice
had it's second lowest summer extent on record. Arctic synoptics have
not been particularly different to normal (read the NSIDC reports if
you don't believe that Will). The world is warmer than it should be
given 18 months of below average temperatures in the equatorial
Pacific and Larry is so far out on a limb with his cherry picking that
it will soon break. Odd that he hasn't tried to cherry pick the daily
global temperatures at 14,000' recently. Wonder why?

http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutem...?amsutemps+002

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On Nov 20, 1:11*pm, Dawlish wrote:
On Nov 20, 12:06*pm, Lawrence13 wrote:





On Nov 20, 11:54*am, Graham P Davis wrote:

On 20/11/11 11:21, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Lawrence13" wrote in message
...
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php

Thanks Lawrence. It really is interesting how different the synoptics
are this year. ISTM that even the 1000-500 hPa thickness chart looks
colder than normal, although one must be cautious of course, anyone know
where one can view a thickness anomaly chart?

Here's the temperature anomaly for the past 12 months. Arctic 2-4C
warmer than normal.http://tinyurl.com/cwydxdp

You can make your own maps hehttp://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/maps/

--
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. E-mail: change boy to man
Teach evolution, not creationism:http://evolutionnotcreationism.org.uk/

That's irrelevant as I'm highlighting the marked cooling since the
summer turnaround over the same time span for previous years. Yes the
Arctic has been warmer of that there's no disputing that, but there
were always cooling and warming phases long before humans struck a
swan vesta match and maybe, just maybe we're on the cusp now of a
downward trend-time will tell.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Why does every single scientific institution, every single national
science academy and every single stable government *on the planet*
disagree with you.

The Arctic has been significantly warmer than normal. Arctic sea ice
had it's second lowest summer extent on record. Arctic synoptics have
not been particularly different to normal (read the NSIDC reports if
you don't believe that Will). The world is warmer than it should be
given 18 months of below average temperatures in the equatorial
Pacific and Larry is so far out on a limb with his cherry picking that
it will soon break. Odd that he hasn't tried to cherry pick the daily
global temperatures at 14,000' recently. Wonder why?

http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutem...amsutemps+002- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Again you get your knickers in a twist I am merely showing that for
now the Arctic 80 degrees N has clearly gone of script. Why can't you
and others just accept that?

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On Nov 20, 1:11*pm, Dawlish wrote:

Why does every single scientific institution, every single national
science academy and every single stable government *on the planet*
disagree with you.

Is that rhetorical or were you not complaining?

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On 20/11/11 13:13, Lawrence13 wrote:


Again you get your knickers in a twist I am merely showing that for
now the Arctic 80 degrees N has clearly gone of script. Why can't you
and others just accept that?

Perhaps because we don't think a few days of cold weather constitutes a
change of climate?

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Lawrence13 writes:
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php

I would sum that up that graph as showing that the first 3 months of
this year have been warmer than normal and that since then temperatures
have been close to normal. The dip right at the very end has so far been
much too short-lived to conclude that it anything more than a brief
random "blip". If it's still there in a couple of weeks time, then that
will be different.
--
John Hall
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw

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On Nov 20, 12:06*pm, Lawrence13 wrote:


That's irrelevant as I'm highlighting the marked cooling since the
summer turnaround over the same time span for previous years.

snip

maybe we're on the cusp now of a downward trend

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At the time did you highlight the very marked warmth in the first 100
days of this year? Or the marked uptick in October? Was that an
indication that we were on the cusp of an upward trend? I'm struggling
to see the relevance of this latest downturn of a few days until and
unless it turns into a few weeks.

Stephen.